OrlandoDon Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, manc_don said: Find it hilarious that someone is willing to pay for Bates, I really hope it crosses the line! Does seem like that would be making way for Dunne. How shite is he? He may be shite, but it's left footed shite which is better than Bates shite....perhaps? Even if Dunne is mediocre, trading Bates for Dunne in a sense really helps us as Stewart and Scales are our referred central pairing anyway, and we have the back up leftie. But if Dunne is any good it certainly allows Scales to play left back, gives competition at the back which is healthy, and keeps McCrorie in the middle of the park. Really gives us options while Bates does not. Would also clearly allow MacKenzie or Hancock to go out on loan, most likely the latter as they both don't need to play very limited mins. Yes, I am stating the obvious, but hope this occurs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I honestly haven't watched dunne enough to comment but I bet his attitude is top notch if JG wants to sign him again. That can take a player of limited ability a long way in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokinginashearerwonderland Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Getting any money for Bates considering how he has played for us has to be good business. However, I have a strange feeling that Bates is one of those who will turn good eventually and will somehow end up with about 40 Scotland caps and leave us thinking why couldn't we make a player out of that guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said: Getting any money for Bates considering how he has played for us has to be good business. However, I have a strange feeling that Bates is one of those who will turn good eventually and will somehow end up with about 40 Scotland caps and leave us thinking why couldn't we make a player out of that guy? I think you're right. Sometimes it just doesn't work for a player at a club. There's no doubt in my mind that he's been hung out to dry a little in his time here. He seems like a fairly honest loon who's trying his best too (aye, Gallagher, I'm having a go at you). I suspect he'll be a high earner in the squad and, with Stewart being made captain, he's not going to be getting many minutes at right centre half. Best for everyone that he moved on. Hopefully we'll add in a sell-on just in case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, RicoS321 said: I think you're right. Sometimes it just doesn't work for a player at a club. There's no doubt in my mind that he's been hung out to dry a little in his time here. He seems like a fairly honest loon who's trying his best too (aye, Gallagher, I'm having a go at you). I suspect he'll be a high earner in the squad and, with Stewart being made captain, he's not going to be getting many minutes at right centre half. Best for everyone that he moved on. Hopefully we'll add in a sell-on just in case. Agree 100% with all of that Rico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Mason Hancock off to Arbroath on season loan Assume we will have a January recall option. Good move for him and hopefully playing week in week out at top of championship will aid his development as have a sneaky feeling he is going to be a decent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Hancock joins Arbroath on loan, for real this time. That Bates and Hancock have been allowed to leave suggests Goodwin has a signing up his sleeve. About time too, it's been nearly two days since the last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, Panda said: Hancock joins Arbroath on loan, for real this time. That Bates and Hancock have been allowed to leave suggests Goodwin has a signing up his sleeve. About time too, it's been nearly two days since the last one. Strange on the timing maybe. If bates goes too surely this means dunne is coming in? Or is it simply a lock that coulson is left back on sunday and mccrorie in the middle? Still leaves us thin on defensible cover and in center mid if we don’t bring in someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I’d be a bit worried if Coulson was our first choice left back considering he hardly got a game in his last 2 loans to Ipswich and Peterborough. More likely to be Hayes in a deeper role if he’s still looking to bring in another winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Must be someone coming in before Sunday cos now we are pretty light at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Slim said: I’d be a bit worried if Coulson was our first choice left back considering he hardly got a game in his last 2 loans to Ipswich and Peterborough. More likely to be Hayes in a deeper role if he’s still looking to bring in another winger. Boro fans don't seem overly impressed with this move but that seems to be predominantly because their squad is very thin. Regardless though, unless as you say he moves Hayes back, he's likely to be starting on Sunday now as McKenzie is only just back training. Edited July 28, 2022 by tlg1903 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redordead Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I think that Hancock has been unlucky here. He was arguably our best player on Sunday and probably earned a chance in the team. Clearly wheels were already in motion. I don't feel that we needed another LB with him and McKenzie fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Looks like arbroath are going to play him at CB Arbroath FC are delighted to welcome Mason Hancock on a season long loan from Aberdeen. Mason, 19, is a left footed centre-back who signed for Aberdeen in 2020 after a successful trial. Having played for Fulham from the ages of 7 through 15, Mason has also played for Woking FC U18 and Oxford United’s U18 before signing for Aberdeen. Mason faced the Lichties last season when he impressed in our match in the SPFL Trust Trophy where he captained the Aberdeen B side at Pittodrie. Having signed a contract extension with Aberdeen last season, Mason moved to Forthbank for the second half of last season where he impressed playing for Stirling Albion. This season Mason has started all 4 group Premier Sports Cup for Aberdeen, catching the eye with impressive displays both defending and attacking. Arbroath FC would like to thank Jim Goodwin and everyone at Aberdeen FC for making this loan move possible. We would like to give Mason a very warm welcome to Club. Welcome Mason! C’mon the Lichties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I'm hearing rumours that the Bates deal is off? Did they finally watch the videos, or is there another reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Aye it's off apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, tlg1903 said: Aye it's off apparently Let’s be real. Who honestly thought we’d get 150-500k for bates? As we all know, when things seem too good to be true… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordDon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, tlg1903 said: Aye it's off apparently Damn, was hoping they wouldn't look at the internet until the cheque had cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho_panza Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, OxfordDon said: Damn, was hoping they wouldn't look at the internet until the cheque had cleared. I know football clubs should be more sophisticated but I wouldn't be surprised if they did change their mind because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Judging by that interview with Graham Hunter and Steven Gunn, they probably had emails saying how good Bates was. Wye scout, videos, etc then Gunn ehm, ehh, ehm, an, and ehm ah, well, through the final sales pitch… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Sounds like they were just using him to push through the purchase of another player. Bit of a shite way to deal with a player like. Sleekit cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Still think the team lack creativity in the middle of the park and would like another right sided defender in as not been convinced by what I have seen of Richardson so far and don’t want to see McCrorie moved to right back if Richardson gets injured or needs dropped. ETA would expect Harvey and Milne to go on loan before end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Defo another defender, especially if bates does go this window. We are also massively short in cm with only 4 options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Think Goodwin said he's hopeful of 2 more in before the window closes.Not sure if Bates staying affects anything,but hopefully another defender,and with a bit of luck/patience,Ronan ...or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Elgindon said: Think Goodwin said he's hopeful of 2 more in before the window closes.Not sure if Bates staying affects anything,but hopefully another defender,and with a bit of luck/patience,Ronan ...or similar. Could this be why we've no number 6 or 7? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Madbadteacher said: Could this be why we've no number 6 or 7? Or maybe some players are reluctant to use such legendary numbers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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