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Yeah, we are, because he isn't the manager, doesn't pick the team, doesn't set the tactics, and isn't one of the coaches, sports scientists, or any one of the many people who have more influence over the squad's performances than he does. Or do you an idea of what he should be doing? Pinning every member of the squad up against the wall one by one?

Many factors in play though, from recruitment, management, tactics, and just overall depth of shit players, don’t think you can really point the finger at shinnie. You can’t complain when your Raleigh grifter doesn’t behave like a Harley.

Bit surprised that Huijsen didn’t make it as he looked decent in games I saw this year but rest of the Madrid team have pretty poor this seadon and been suggestions of dressing room issues so maybe not a surprise that no players from there been taken.

Are we just glossing over the fact that Shinnie has captained an absolute shit show in the last 18 months. Obviously I’m not suggesting he’s entirely responsible but it’s not exactly CV enhancing. Pin pulled…

Damn, was really hoping they would go down