tup1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 you’re pretty hard on him for one mistake as a youngster. He’s a good player, that’s all I’m concerned about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 If anyone is interested the U21 game Tonight is being shown on national teams youtube channel 17:30 kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, tup1 said: you’re pretty hard on him for one mistake as a youngster. He’s a good player, that’s all I’m concerned about. We'll agree to disagree Tup I've been consistent on my views about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, BigAl said: We'll agree to disagree Tup I've been consistent on my views about him. He's done his time. It seemed to be an isolated incident. I don't know the facts, but I don't necessarily think that not showing remorse is a sign of a bad person in anyway. For example, if I punched Rolf Harris, I probably wouldn't be that remorseful, but I would understand why it would be assault and expect to be punished for that. Out of interest, we're a club that gave a home to Goodwillie who didn't serve time for the acts described in his civil case. Were you okay with that at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: He's done his time. It seemed to be an isolated incident. I don't know the facts, but I don't necessarily think that not showing remorse is a sign of a bad person in anyway. For example, if I punched Rolf Harris, I probably wouldn't be that remorseful, but I would understand why it would be assault and expect to be punished for that. Out of interest, we're a club that gave a home to Goodwillie who didn't serve time for the acts described in his civil case. Were you okay with that at the time? No And the comparison to Rolf Harris (hardly an innocent man) is irrelevant in this case. Cowardly attack by Gallacher and his mate on a man numerous years their senior I stick by, the no thanks to him being anywhere near Pittodrie as is my right to hold that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tup1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I thought he did well against decent quality attackers last night, I wonder what sort of bid Motherwell would accept for him is the question. We should chance a £500k bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Links for tonight’s U21 game below. https://mobile.twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1314489514325405696 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, BigAl said: No And the comparison to Rolf Harris (hardly an innocent man) is irrelevant in this case. Cowardly attack by Gallacher and his mate on a man numerous years their senior I stick by, the no thanks to him being anywhere near Pittodrie as is my right to hold that opinion. Yes it is your right. I'm not questioning your right, just asking for explanation of your position. There was no comparison to Rolf Harris, that was an example for illustration of the point, not a comparison. There was no conflation either, just to clarify. Although comparison is not the same as conflation either, which seems to be missed in modern day debate. I'll use another example if it helps: if I were to have punched Tony Blair, I probably wouldn't be that remorseful, but would understand....etc. The point is that you stated that Gallagher was not remorseful, and I'm interested to know how you know that to be the case, and why you think that is? From the pish in the press at the time, the judge said that he believeed it was out of character for Gallagher, which suggests that Gallagher would likely be quite remorseful if it was yer everyday drunken scrap that got out of hand and he lost it, or he was young/stupid/naive or whatever. The fact that you state that he isn't remorseful means that he thinks the guy did something fairly substantial to have merited it (rightly or wrongly) and that he'd do the same thing again. As I say, I can't really see enough in the newspaper reports to guage it, but you seem to have a fairly good grasp of it, which is why I'm curious (I'm definitely not doubting you). The remorse thing is fairly key, you're right, it says a lot about the guy. That's why I asked your thoughts on Goodwillie. I could think of reasons why Gallagher might have done what he did (although I wouldn't, obviously), but none that mitigate Goodwillie's actions as laid out in the civil case. I certainly widnae be paying £500K for a 30 year old though Tup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I have to say I know it wasn't the best to watch last night but the big positive for me performance wise was I thought we looked like a Steve Clarke side for the first time last night. Not a Steve Clarke side playing particularly well right enough but a Steve Clarke side nonetheless. Some of the hyperbole that has followed is ridiculous, we got through and bar one chance in extra time didn't give them a sniff. From where we have come from and especially given it was a virgin defence I will take that all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, RicoS321 said: Yes it is your right. I'm not questioning your right, just asking for explanation of your position. There was no comparison to Rolf Harris, that was an example for illustration of the point, not a comparison. There was no conflation either, just to clarify. Although comparison is not the same as conflation either, which seems to be missed in modern day debate. I'll use another example if it helps: if I were to have punched Tony Blair, I probably wouldn't be that remorseful, but would understand....etc. The point is that you stated that Gallagher was not remorseful, and I'm interested to know how you know that to be the case, and why you think that is? From the pish in the press at the time, the judge said that he believeed it was out of character for Gallagher, which suggests that Gallagher would likely be quite remorseful if it was yer everyday drunken scrap that got out of hand and he lost it, or he was young/stupid/naive or whatever. The fact that you state that he isn't remorseful means that he thinks the guy did something fairly substantial to have merited it (rightly or wrongly) and that he'd do the same thing again. As I say, I can't really see enough in the newspaper reports to guage it, but you seem to have a fairly good grasp of it, which is why I'm curious (I'm definitely not doubting you). The remorse thing is fairly key, you're right, it says a lot about the guy. That's why I asked your thoughts on Goodwillie. I could think of reasons why Gallagher might have done what he did (although I wouldn't, obviously), but none that mitigate Goodwillie's actions as laid out in the civil case. I certainly widnae be paying £500K for a 30 year old though Tup. Rico, I'm going to let it drop. I have business connections close to this and feel it inappropriate to say any more. I'll never be a fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_widdows Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 08/10/2020 at 13:30, Madbadteacher said: Call up for big ANDY! Steve Clarke must be reading this board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Considines been called up. Fucking delighted for him, well deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Paul mcginn from hibs too, don't know much about him. Would love to see Griffiths added to the squad too but not counting any chickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RicoS321 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Yasssssssssssssssssssss, Andy. I'm heading down to Hampden to sit outside with a candle. Best defender in the world. In your face, McKenna. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Scotland 1-0 up at half time. Hornby with the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2-0 Scotland McCrorie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Got to say from the bits of the game I've seen I like the look of Hornby up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, BigAl said: Got to say from the bits of the game I've seen I like the look of Hornby up front He has been excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, BigAl said: Got to say from the bits of the game I've seen I like the look of Hornby up front And on cue, just got MOTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2-0 win. Win game next game away to San Marino we will go top of group. Hornby deserved MOTM but he was run close by Ferguson and McCrorie who were both excellent. Also impressed by Tom McIntyre and Lewis Mayo at the back. Much more enjoyable watch than last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 McCrories goal from tonight. https://mobile.twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1314629790897451010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jute said: McCrories goal from tonight. https://mobile.twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1314629790897451010 Another really good finish too, he has a eye for goal for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Bruce Anderson called up to U21 squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I’m torn. i really want to see Andy and Ross get full caps but I fear the risk of injury and almost don’t want them to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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