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January transfer window and the squad as it stands

In consideration of our failing season, thought an update to our contract situation might be worthwhile. Apologies for the length.

GK

2023

  • Woods (31) - Is he Injured? noticed the boy Ritchie was on the bench Sunday.

2024

  • Lewis (34) - Been off form but capable of getting that back made some good saves yesterday. 

No real issues here. Lewis has been out of form, but not really a problem for January or even next summer. 

Defence

January 2022

  • Devlin (28) - Injured needs to be released.

Summer 2022

  • Considine (34) - Injured and aging but should be given another year extension.
  • Gurr (26) - not of the required standard.

2023

  • MacKenzie (21) - Injured will be fine once he recovers from injury.
  • Gallagher (30) - Injured looked off form when he has been fit.

2024

  • Hernandez (24) - Loaned out hopefully Atlanta repay us for the fee paid out on their behalf and the whole sorry mess can be put to bed. 
  • McCrorie (23) - arguably a midfielder been OK at the back and we have had little option. 
  • Ramsay (18)- Injured could end up receiving offers for him, maybe his current injury will delay them till next summer. 
  • Bates (25) - improving. 

I'd hope we are looking to start next season with MacKenzie, Gallagher, McCrorie (is he a midfielder), Ramsay (unless the right offer comes in) Bates & Considine (depending on his recovery). In January, Devlin must be off the payroll, attempts made to get Gurr off too, and fingers crossed Atlanta buy Hernandez (for everyone's sake). Should be planning on 4-6 of the current lot being here next season. Assuming recovery from injuries and no more occurring;

MacKenzie, Gallagher, McCrorie, Ramsay and Bates till end of the season, that are good enough, scope for additions.

Midfield

Summer 2022

  • Hayes (34) - can see him signing an extension if offered but is he as effective as first time around? Can we get better and younger for the wage?
  • Hedges (26) - will be off, decision is balancing any money offered and what player(s) can we bring in against what little Hedges playing within himself brings for the remainder of the season.
  • McGeouch (28) - Injured? (again) imagine he's looking to see what offers he gets and will be trying to minimize injuries to his fragile body in the meantime.
  • Ojo (30) - Also seems to be looking to see what offers he gets and we should be able to do better. 
  • McGinn (34) - Past it.

End of Loan Summer 2022(If possible cancel them all in January)

  • Jenks (19)  - Not good enough
  • Samuels (21)  - Not good enough
  • Longstaff (21) - Not good enough

2023

  • Campbell (20) - Doesn't appear as if Glass rates him that highly.
  • Kennedy (27) - Injured (allegedly) tried to get rid of in the summer depending on how true the back injury is, will likely try again.
  • McLennan (22) - Injured he's got strength, pace, skill all let down by decision making and consistency. Should be at a higher level if he's going to make it at his club. 
  • Brown (36) - Injured? Will give his all and probably been our best player, but he's 36. 

2024

  • Ferguson (22) - doesn't want to be here will push for a move to england again in January. 

Next season would be planning on Hayes (to sign a new contract), Campbell, Brown, McLennan maybe Hanratty. Potentially for remainder of the season we have;

Campbell, Brown & Hayes who will give their all all, albeit Brown is 36 and probably will need a rest at some point some & Hayes who is 34 and has 6 months left on his contract. Hedges, McGeouch and Ojo who will be playing with one eye on a signing on fee elsewhere, won't care where we finish and play accordingly. Jenks, Longstaff and Samuels none of whom are good enough and none have a vested interest in our success.  Kennedy and McLennan who are not good enough and Ferguson who is trying to get a move elsewhere. 

Forwards

2023

  • Watkins (31) - Hopefully stays injury free for the remainder of the season.
  • Ramirez (30) - Possibly Glass's singular piece of good recruitment
  • JET (30) - wrong type of player for battling at the wrong end of the table

An aging strike-force. Can't see any of them being here after summer 2023. JET too much of a luxury but can't see anyone taking him off our hands in January. Ngwenya to join them next season?

Youth on loan

  • Ngwenya (18) - contract till 2024
  • Ruth (19) - contract till 2022
  • Barron (19) - contract till 2022
  • Ritchie (18) - contract till 2022
  • Duncan (17) - contract till 2022
  • Hanratty (18) - contract till 2024
  • Mykyta (19) - contract till 2022
  • McIver (18) - contract till 2022
  • Gallagher (20) - contract till 2022
  • Milne (18) - contract till 2022

As far as I can find only Ngwenya and Hanratty signed for longer than the end of the season?

Following Sunday it appears we may only have 15 fit outfield players fit. 3 defenders (1 is Gurr and McRorie will be banned for hibs), 9 midfielders (Longstaff might as well not be here, Jenks and Samuels aren't good enough, McGinn has made 2 starts from 7 appearances ), 3 forwards (1 is JET).

7 games till the break and opening of the window. 

Recruitment has been a shambles for a while now, nothing we saw in the summer points to improvements and this must be the most unbalanced & incoherent (almost as bad as this post), uncommitted and aging squad we've had in a long time. Hopefully our DoF has been making several plans based on any number of scenario's.

We have to;

  • Mitigate the effect losing Ferguson and/or Ramsay would have
  • Take into account the lack of commitment from the 8 midfielders with no contractual obligation beyond the end of the season.
  • The imbalance inexperience and decimation through injury of our defence. 
  • The age of our attack. 
  • And the lack of players in their "prime years" throughout the squad.

And this has to be balanced against;

  • how shit January is as a transfer window
  • that we have enough to ensure we don't get dragged into relegation worries
  • not make rash decisions that fuck up future season with more aging or not good enough players all playing the same positions on high wages. 
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Wonder how soon his Visa and permits will take...any ideas??

1 hour ago, RicoS321 said:

I've heard he could be the next De Visscher. Welcome aboard loon.

True. Or van der ven, ten caat, even ferne snoyl! Or Paul mason, all we’d never heard of who did well for us. Positive thinking!!

50 minutes ago, RedKev said:

Wonder how soon his Visa and permits will take...any ideas??

I have it on good authority that he's actually fae Dyce.

7 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

True. Or van der ven, ten caat, even ferne snoyl! Or Paul mason, all we’d never heard of who did well for us. Positive thinking!!

Van De Ven was pish. Ten Caat was average. Ferne Snoyl was vastly overrated. Gillhaus and Snelders are the benchmark (Mason disnae count, he was English), and Van Der Ark gets a special mention for being fucking massive.

I think we can all agree that he's already better than Dave Bus.

 

Edit: and Dyron Daal

 

Edit again: Touzani was okay, and I'm nae old enough to remember Sven Baas

Edited by RicoS321

17 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Van De Ven was pish. Ten Caat was average. Ferne Snoyl was vastly overrated. Gillhaus and Snelders are the benchmark (Mason disnae count, he was English), and Van Der Ark gets a special mention for being fucking massive.

I think we can all agree that he's already better than Dave Bus.

 

Edit: and Dyron Daal

 

Edit again: Touzani was okay, and I'm nae old enough to remember Sven Baas

I'm old enough but even I struggle to remember Sven Baas 😂

44 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Van De Ven was pish. Ten Caat was average. Ferne Snoyl was vastly overrated. Gillhaus and Snelders are the benchmark (Mason disnae count, he was English), and Van Der Ark gets a special mention for being fucking massive.

I think we can all agree that he's already better than Dave Bus.

 

Edit: and Dyron Daal

 

Edit again: Touzani was okay, and I'm nae old enough to remember Sven Baas

Bit harsh, all did a job. Snelders and Gillhaus weren't unknown hence I didn't mention them. Anyway, interesting signing!

Fuck sake, he's bloody Colombian anyway. David Gonzalez then.

Anyway, McGinn to Dundee? Thought they hated him for sending them down. Hope he does it again.

Good luck to him, been a fantastic player for the club, and even when he's been pish lately he's worked hard.

McGinn going to Dundee on an 18 month contract.

Thanks for the memories Niall

Aw is he I'm sad about this wanted him to score our winning scottish Cup final goal this season 

But then he was never getting a game so I'll need to rethink 😅

4 minutes ago, BigAl said:

McGinn going to Dundee on an 18 month contract.

Thanks for the memories Niall

Bit slow with breaking that news. Hopefully your prospective client won't take that into account tomorrow. I mean, I would, but that's just me.

Edited by RicoS321

2 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Bit slow with breaking that news. Hopefully your prospective client won't take that into account tomorrow. I mean, I would, but that's just me.

A whole 60 seconds

You had the advantage of age and no doubt dexterity 😉

Good luck to Niall.Hopefully gets a decent send off before he goes(if he's nae already packing his bags)

Welcome aboard the Dutch guy. Maybe get a run out on Saturday.

 

 

mcginn as talented a player we had last 10 years , right time to go all the best

12 minutes ago, BigAl said:

A whole 60 seconds

You had the advantage of age and no doubt dexterity 😉

Tbf Al I was waiting for you to confirm it before I posted 😉

39 minutes ago, ayrshire_don74 said:

mcginn as talented a player we had last 10 years , right time to go all the best

I'd even say our best player over the years, a joy to watch and some excellent goals. Hoping Mikey Johnston follows his footsteps of a Celtic fringe player we can snap up who has an impactful career here!

38 minutes ago, Goldie03 said:

Tbf Al I was waiting for you to confirm it before I posted 😉

You're a 🌟 Mrs

You know not to trust these young whippersnappers 😉

Hope you're keeping well 👍

2 minutes ago, LA-Don said:

I'd even say our best player over the years, a joy to watch and some excellent goals. Hoping Mikey Johnston follows his footsteps of a Celtic fringe player we can snap up who has an impactful career here!

Johnston won't be signing for us.

He signed a five year deal in 2019.

If he comes on loan and performs well that only serves to price him outwith our reach.

30 minutes ago, BigAl said:

Johnston won't be signing for us.

He signed a five year deal in 2019.

If he comes on loan and performs well that only serves to price him outwith our reach.

Perhaps, but signed a new contract under an old manager. New guy clearly has his own ideas and is bringing different players in.

9 minutes ago, LA-Don said:

Perhaps, but signed a new contract under an old manager. New guy clearly has his own ideas and is bringing different players in.

I know but that's not my point.

If he does well with us on loan and The Tim's don't want him we will still potentially have only served to price him outwith our range with others able to afford him.

52 minutes ago, BigAl said:

You're a 🌟 Mrs

You know not to trust these young whippersnappers 😉

Hope you're keeping well 👍

Exactly I need to hear it from a trusted source ha

I'm grand thanks and looking forward to finally seeing the dons at Livi and the cuptie at Motherwell if it's not a pesky evening kick off 

6 hours ago, Jute said:

Dutch second division has wildly different standard of teams and players. No idea if this lad will be any good or not but it’s definitely a position we needed to fill and a market we should be using more. 

He played most of last season in the Dutch top league which is arguably better than our top league.

9 minutes ago, BigAl said:

I know but that's not my point.

If he does well with us on loan and The Tim's don't want him we will still potentially have only served to price him outwith our range with others able to afford him.

Sad but true. I don't want to help build up their fringe players for them to profit massively. It doesn't help us short or long term imo.  Nice of one of my former local clubs supply us with another player. Will try do some digging about him.

Gutted McGinn is off, I had hoped he'd see the season out but I imagine his wage is quite high.

6 minutes ago, Chris Frae Killie said:

He played most of last season in the Dutch top league which is arguably better than our top league.

Played 50 games all in from 2020,of which 25(6 goals) this season.Played on the left and right,and has played as attacking midfielder and striker. Hopefully skilful and useful enough to not mean utility player

1 hour ago, manc_don said:

Sad but true. I don't want to help build up their fringe players for them to profit massively. It doesn't help us short or long term imo.  Nice of one of my former local clubs supply us with another player. Will try do some digging about him.

Gutted McGinn is off, I had hoped he'd see the season out but I imagine his wage is quite high.

I would hope given that circumstance we wouldn't agree to a loan without a fee already agreed should we wish to sign him.

 

All the best mcginniesta.  You were the first player in red to get me out of my seat on a regular basis since... Probably zerouali 2bh. 

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