Todays fitba

[Jute]

Hibs getting a bit of a doing off Motherwell with helping hand by VAR. Currently 2-0 down with Hanley off for a very soft looking last man challenge.

[BigAl]

Harvey McBarnes puts Newcastle ahead at Marseille 

Still think he should be told to fuck off and play for Engerlund 

[TheDonbytheDee]

The Livingston chairman has said that the SFA has admitted there was a mistake in their game with the hun, that saw them denied a penalty.

That's cleared that up then and surely it won't happen again....

[BigAl]

59 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

The Livingston chairman has said that the SFA has admitted there was a mistake in their game with the hun, that saw them denied a penalty.

That's cleared that up then and surely it won't happen again....

Heads will surely roll over this.

Livi chairman will be hunted down by the local masonic lodge for having the audacity to draw attention to this matter 

[TheDonbytheDee]

2 hours ago, BigAl said:

Heads will surely roll over this.

Livi chairman will be hunted down by the local masonic lodge for having the audacity to draw attention to this matter 

Aye, I expect some bad press to come the way of their chairman.

We're not allowed to call it out, but when they feel hard done by, the story runs in the press for weeks.

[RicoS321]

I don't think it was that bad a call. It merely highlights the stupidity of VAR, and the arsehole of a handball rule it has created. It's fairly easy to explain what the ref did or didn't see, and fairly easy to think of a reason not to give the pen, and also fairly easy to think of a reason to give it. Had the rule still been the existing deliberate rule, I'd have no problem with playing on. The player doesn't try and block the ball. In real time, instead of shitey slow motion, you can see the player has no time at all to properly react. He realises the ball is going to hit his arm and does the involuntary movement that goes towards the ball rather than away from it. Anyone who has played football has likely experienced it, regardless of the level your playing at. It's an entirely different movement to going in with your arm raised (making yourself bigger), or making a deliberate save. If he'd had time to move his hand out of the way, he would have, but there wasn't because it was close to him, and the unexpected shiteness of the shot would have taken him by surprise. If the ref had given it in real time, that's an entirely acceptable call too. It's hit the player's hand, and he's moved his arm slightly towards it. 

It's a subjective game, filled with subjective decisions. There's no such thing as clear and obvious, and never can be. A decision can almost always be explained either way. I tend to look at things through an honesty lens. The player didn't try to gain an advantage by handling it, it just happened, so you play on. Sportsmanship, basically. 

Anyway, Livi will get a dodgy pen against the next unlucky fools who have to play them to even things up.