Todays fitba

[dons8321]

12 minutes ago, BigAl said:

Huns 

Fucking glorious stuff, only three minutes in.

The biggest fuck up in Europe since the Tories thought the population wouldn't vote for Brexit

Fucking hell as I am typing that Bruges have scored again 

And now 3

[OxfordDon]

14 minutes ago, BigAl said:

Huns 

Fucking glorious stuff, only three minutes in.

The biggest fuck up in Europe since the Tories thought the population wouldn't vote for Brexit

Fucking hell as I am typing that Bruges have scored again 

Wasn't going to watch this but I might now.

edit:  as I type... only on the stream for 30secs and instantly rewarded.  0-3, Sevco being ripped a new one.

Edited Tuesday at 19:23 by OxfordDon

[BigAl]

Sorry lads to have fallen behind

Couldn't type fast enough for laughing  

[OxfordDon]

Shouldv'e been 4.

Not getting ahead of myself, but what's Sevco's biggest defeat?  Asking for a friend

[OrlandoDon]

Hahahahahahaha!!!    

[dons8321]

5 minutes ago, OxfordDon said:

Shouldv'e been 4.

Not getting ahead of myself, but what's Sevco's biggest defeat?  Asking for a friend

I remember them losing 12 - 4 on aggregate Eintracht Frankfurt in 1960.... hopefully that's roughly the score tonight.

Edited Tuesday at 19:31 by dons8321

[BigAl]

2 minutes ago, dons8321 said:

I remember them losing 12 - 4 on aggregate Eintracht Frankfurt in 1960.... hopefully that's roughly the score tonight.

Fucking hell and I thought I was old 

[BigAl]

Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere but Amazon are going to ask for ages verification if this pumping continues 

[dons8321]

12 minutes ago, BigAl said:

Fucking hell and I thought I was old 

Thanks.

[Jute]

Hilariously bad first half for Huns.
 

Between now and end of August they have St Mirren away, Brugge away and Victims at home. Martin might not see out the international break. 

[BigAl]

Neil McCann has been sniffing glue at half time by the sounds of it  

[BigAl]

Fuck it 

[RicoS321]

Russell Martout more like.

[OrlandoDon]

Rangers look awful defensively, the goals conceded were comical, shocking. While I only saw highlights, they look like a bunch of players who don’t know each other. I’ll give JT credit, he focuses on togetherness and playing together. I hope teams including us take note, they are there to be beaten.

[Jute]

Not specifically tonight’s football but will be in future. BBC now have rights to show Bundesliga matches on Friday evenings. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgjyzgj3xjwo

[RicoS321]

32 minutes ago, Jute said:

Not specifically tonight’s football but will be in future. BBC now have rights to show Bundesliga matches on Friday evenings. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgjyzgj3xjwo

Weird for the British national broadcaster. Hope it doesn't detract from the Scottish championship coverage, which I will continue to watch.

[Jute]

After Ross County v St Johnstone I will be happy to have fall back of another game to watch rather than lose will to live.

[OxfordDon]

Tic held 0-0 at home by Kairat Almaty.

Feels karmic after listening to commentators debating at the start of the match whether Tic should be aiming for more than "just" a 3-goal margin.

[Jute]

Victims chanting sack the board towards the end of the game. Bunch of entitled cunts. 

[Panda]

There is an odd thing about the Old Firm struggling to make the Champions League. Should they make the Europa League, and we also make it, we'll have to share the TV money with them, meaning we'll actually earn less than we would have done had they both made the CL.

 

[wee toon red]

Any idea how that would then work if we end up in the conference league and one or both of them are in the europa? Is a full conference payout higher than 1/3 or a europa?

[BigAl]

24 minutes ago, wee toon red said:

Any idea how that would then work if we end up in the conference league and one or both of them are in the europa? Is a full conference payout higher than 1/3 or a europa?

Not sure but there is also the possibility of Hibs being in the conference meaning a share of the TV money from that surely 

[Jute]

1 minute ago, BigAl said:

Not sure but there is also the possibility of Hibs being in the conference meaning a share of the TV money from that surely 

Correct. That’s why on selfish point of view Hibs losing is a good thing for us if we drop in to Conference League. 
 

It’s the market pool part of the prize money that is shared with other teams from the same country. 

[OxfordDon]

3 hours ago, Jute said:

Correct. That’s why on selfish point of view Hibs losing is a good thing for us if we drop in to Conference League. 
 

It’s the market pool part of the prize money that is shared with other teams from the same country. 

Market pool has been replaced with "value pillar" (see below). In essence, qualify for the UEFA League group stages and it appears we get:

Starting fee:  4.31m Euros.  Every teams gets this, so not split with anyone.  (Conf League: 3.17m)

Performance-related fees:  450k for a win, 150k for a draw.  Also not split with anyone.  (Conf League: 400k/133k)

League ranking bonus: minimum 75k for 36th place, and 75k for every place we finish above that. On top of that, places 1-8 get an additional 600k bonus, and 9-16 an additional 300k.  Not split with anyone.  (Conf League: 28k per place, 400k/200k bonuses)

Value Pillar share: This is the only bit where the presence of other Scottish teams can affect our prize money, and it's still not a straight split.  All 36 teams are ranked (again!) but this time first by country ("domestic broadcasters’ contribution to the overall media revenue for the whole cycle in that competition"), then within that country placing by a team coefficient.  Except for the "non-european" bit, which is done just by coefficient... 

Minimum 297k for 36th place, and 297k for every place we finish above that. (Conf League: 86k per place)

Celtic or Sevco joining us would each effectively move us down one league placing as they would be higher ranked than us, costing us 297k each.  Hibs in Conference League has the same effect as they finished higher than us domestically, for a cost of 86k.

TL/DR

We get a minimum of about 4.7m euros for UEFA group stage, and Sevco or Celtic dropping into the UEFA league would reduce that by about 300k euros each.  Hibs being in Conference League along with us reduces our prize money by about 86k euros, against a minimum of about 3.3m euros.

That's my read at least, but I may have misinterpreted the payment rules as they are rather labyrinthine - you can read them for yourself here:

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/029a-1e0b5460b86d-31e6cad26358-1000/20250616_circular_2025_32_en.pdf 

As a footnote, if Celtic/Sevco lose the UCL playoffs, they get an additional compensation payment that is almost as high as the reward we get for being in the UEFA group stages (4.29m euros).  Go figure.

Edited 18 hours ago by OxfordDon

[OxfordDon]

On reflection I should have put "potentially costing us", as if Celtic/Sevco/Hibs are replacing a country/team ranked above us, in reality our "value pillar" league position would have been exactly the same, so there would actually be no difference whatsoever...