Heart of Midlothian v Aberdeen

[dons8321]

1 hour ago, Bukta Bertie said:

Meet the new Hearts, same as the old Hearts.

Any Aberdeen fan wanting them to win the league is certifiable.

Yet fairly recently you posted saying you wanted the new club to win a game.

Edited 16 hours ago by dons8321

[Panda]

Watching that today felt like watching a Barry Robson team. Was a lot of long balls that didn't really have much purpose behind it. Hearts played the same way at times, and it was a rubbish game for the neutral, but Hearts are a bit more adept at it and had players they actually found with their passing. 

Then, late on, we were just knocking it around our back line and going nowhere.

The main difference (among many failures for us) was Hearts' positioning. They knew when to double up on a player, when they passed they found players in space (space we gave them because our positioning was so bad), they just had players in the right position while we look so badly coached.

 

Positives (few, but there were some). Some of Mitov's goal kicks were poor but generally thought he played well. He's still our number one in my eyes. Frame was hitting the byline well when he came on. Nilsen played okay. Also thought Nisbet played as well as he could with no service, but as @RicoS321 pointed out, twice he was screaming for the ball in a great position and someone else made the wrong decision (I actually think it may have been three times as Frame couldn't find him late on when he had made an intelligent run).

[Panda]

Odd behaviour this from McInnes.

Geiger overreacts, but why do it in the first place? You've won an important match and are nine games away from becoming a legend at Hearts and probably Scottish football. Enjoy it.

According to some Hearts fans, he also made some derogatory comments about Aberdeen in midweek at a supporters event.

Bit needless and a fine way to lose goodwill with a club who gave him an opportunity in 2013, treated him very well and paid him handsomely for the privilege.

Edited 14 hours ago by Panda

[swaddon]

A lot of Dons fans said derogatory things about McInnes, so he can say what he likes about us.

The hun c*nt.

[manc_don]

1 hour ago, Panda said:

Odd behaviour this from McInnes.

Geiger overreacts, but why do it in the first place? You've won an important match and are nine games away from becoming a legend at Hearts and probably Scottish football. Enjoy it.

According to some Hearts fans, he also made some derogatory comments about Aberdeen in midweek at a supporters event.

Bit needless and a fine way to lose goodwill with a club who gave him an opportunity in 2013, treated him very well and paid him handsomely for the privilege.

Aye, the guys an arsehole. Hopefully the remainder of those fans who were longing for him realise it now. Fuck the hun cunt.

[Elgindon]

9 hours ago, Panda said:

Watching that today felt like watching a Barry Robson team. Was a lot of long balls that didn't really have much purpose behind it. Hearts played the same way at times, and it was a rubbish game for the neutral, but Hearts are a bit more adept at it and had players they actually found with their passing. 

Then, late on, we were just knocking it around our back line and going nowhere.

The main difference (among many failures for us) was Hearts' positioning. They knew when to double up on a player, when they passed they found players in space (space we gave them because our positioning was so bad), they just had players in the right position while we look so badly coached.

 

Positives (few, but there were some). Some of Mitov's goal kicks were poor but generally thought he played well. He's still our number one in my eyes. Frame was hitting the byline well when he came on. Nilsen played okay. Also thought Nisbet played as well as he could with no service, but as @RicoS321 pointed out, twice he was screaming for the ball in a great position and someone else made the wrong decision (I actually think it may have been three times as Frame couldn't find him late on when he had made an intelligent run).

Think I also prefer Mitov,unsettled defence in front of him doesnt help.Ideally an experienced unit beside either Milne or McIntyre to bring them on. Frustrating to not be getting the best out of Nisbet while he looks in the mood but others on a different wavelength

Edited 4 hours ago by Elgindon

[Bukta Bertie]

McInnes is your typically bitter weegie mink as he ably demonstrated after the match yesterday.

The man love some Dons fans still hold for him is unfathomable. 

[RicoS321]

9 hours ago, Panda said:

Odd behaviour this from McInnes.

Geiger overreacts, but why do it in the first place? You've won an important match and are nine games away from becoming a legend at Hearts and probably Scottish football. Enjoy it.

According to some Hearts fans, he also made some derogatory comments about Aberdeen in midweek at a supporters event.

Bit needless and a fine way to lose goodwill with a club who gave him an opportunity in 2013, treated him very well and paid him handsomely for the privilege.

Meh, he brushed past the guy. Geiger was shite yesterday, and he started tanking around hacking at folk. He's lucky he didn't get a second yellow after the game and needs to sort his shit out.

[Bukta Bertie]

12 hours ago, dons8321 said:

Yet fairly recently you posted saying you wanted the new club to win a game.

I most certainly want rangers or celtic to win the league as opposed to hearts winning it.

Only a spastic wouldn't. 

[Bukta Bertie]

You see this is a penalty. It's given and there's a very real possibility we at least get a draw away from home against a team that has been on top of the league table all season.

People really need to stop watching games already having decided we're shite and the players are all shite.

It's simply not true.

[Jute]

That is not a penalty. Just two players coming together and one going down easily. 

[TheDonbytheDee]

3 minutes ago, Jute said:

That is not a penalty. Just two players coming together and one going down easily. 

I think we're being trolled here.

[Elgindon]

6 minutes ago, Jute said:

That is not a penalty. Just two players coming together and one going down easily. 

Thats what I thought.....

[Jute]

3 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

I think we're being trolled here.

Genuinely don’t think that was a penalty. Don’t get me wrong I shouted for it at the game but on watching it back Armstrong goes down very easily from what is a coming together nothing more. It’s a contact sport and not all contact is a foul. 

[Ajja]

2 minutes ago, Jute said:

Genuinely don’t think that was a penalty. Don’t get me wrong I shouted for it at the game but on watching it back Armstrong goes down very easily from what is a coming together nothing more. It’s a contact sport and not all contact is a foul. 

I guess the difficulty here is the penalty Dundee got against us. In my head if a player deliberately gets in front of a player who is travelling forward and initiates contact it’s not a foul. Both the Dundee penalty and the Armstrong one are not penalties but one is given. This is the problem. 

[RicoS321]

4 minutes ago, Jute said:

Genuinely don’t think that was a penalty. Don’t get me wrong I shouted for it at the game but on watching it back Armstrong goes down very easily from what is a coming together nothing more. It’s a contact sport and not all contact is a foul. 

I don't think @TheDonbytheDee meant that you were trolling.

[RicoS321]

Just now, Ajja said:

I guess the difficulty here is the penalty Dundee got against us. In my head if a player deliberately gets in front of a player who is travelling forward and initiates contact it’s not a foul. Both the Dundee penalty and the Armstrong one are not penalties but one is given. This is the problem. 

It's not much of a problem though is it?

The ref had already given a pen in the Dundee incident. 

The two incidents are similar-ish, but not exactly the same.

Armstrong is already falling over and receives little to no contact.

Most importantly, that we got a penalty given against us that our manager doesn't believe was a penalty doesn't mean we should get one that is also never a penalty. 

[TheDonbytheDee]

11 minutes ago, Jute said:

Genuinely don’t think that was a penalty. Don’t get me wrong I shouted for it at the game but on watching it back Armstrong goes down very easily from what is a coming together nothing more. It’s a contact sport and not all contact is a foul. 

It wasn't you my troll post was aimed at. 

A certain someone else on here

[Ajja]

Not a significant problem no but a frustration that in the modern game you can force that play, the rules are unclear and most importantly not applied consistently by the officials or VAR. I doubt there is much to be gained by debating the inconsistencies in officiating, it’s been done. 

[TheDonbytheDee]

Is our new goalie injured?

I just noticed he wasn't on the bench yesterday.

I had assumed, he was just dropped for Mitov.

[Jute]

11 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

It wasn't you my troll post was aimed at. 

A certain someone else on here

Apologies my mistake. 

[Jute]

10 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Is our new goalie injured?

I just noticed he wasn't on the bench yesterday.

I had assumed, he was just dropped for Mitov.

That was assumption when saw the team yesterday and Vitols was on the bench.

[RicoS321]

18 minutes ago, Ajja said:

Not a significant problem no but a frustration that in the modern game you can force that play, the rules are unclear and most importantly not applied consistently by the officials or VAR. I doubt there is much to be gained by debating the inconsistencies in officiating, it’s been done. 

I've never understood the expectation, and constant call - mainly by pundits and idiot managers - for consistency. It makes no sense. Ironically, it's likely the cause of most of the issues we see. It's created this ridiculous scenario where we strip incidents of all context, all deliberateness, and package them all neatly into a particular "type" of foul or punishable crime. No incident is the same, and the motivations and actions of the players involved are very often different, and can most often be interpreted best by a referee in real time and at real speed. Asking for consistency across multiple games, at different times, involving different referees and different players is the height of stupidity. It's like asking for consistency between Nisbet firing one in from ten yards, and Olusanya kicking it with his standing foot first from exactly the same spot. 

[Ajja]

28 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

I've never understood the expectation, and constant call - mainly by pundits and idiot managers - for consistency. It makes no sense. Ironically, it's likely the cause of most of the issues we see. It's created this ridiculous scenario where we strip incidents of all context, all deliberateness, and package them all neatly into a particular "type" of foul or punishable crime. No incident is the same, and the motivations and actions of the players involved are very often different, and can most often be interpreted best by a referee in real time and at real speed. Asking for consistency across multiple games, at different times, involving different referees and different players is the height of stupidity. It's like asking for consistency between Nisbet firing one in from ten yards, and Olusanya kicking it with his standing foot first from exactly the same spot. 

That’s fine in a pre-VAR world where games were officiated in isolation to some extent. Even then there were still ‘rules’ being applied, there was just a lot more interpretation allowed. VAR has almost enforced a level of scrutiny and specific clarification of what constitutes a foul in granular detail. On top of that, we now have officials who are either not willing or not able to referee the game in front of them so we are operating with a different set of standards that lean towards consistency of application. I’m not a fan of the current situation and would gladly see us revert back but I’m not willing to accept that I’m an idiot for hoping for the rules to be applied consistently either. 

[Bukta Bertie]

34 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

I've never understood the expectation, and constant call - mainly by pundits and idiot managers - for consistency. It makes no sense. Ironically, it's likely the cause of most of the issues we see. It's created this ridiculous scenario where we strip incidents of all context, all deliberateness, and package them all neatly into a particular "type" of foul or punishable crime. No incident is the same, and the motivations and actions of the players involved are very often different, and can most often be interpreted best by a referee in real time and at real speed. Asking for consistency across multiple games, at different times, involving different referees and different players is the height of stupidity. It's like asking for consistency between Nisbet firing one in from ten yards, and Olusanya kicking it with his standing foot first from exactly the same spot. 

Just BIN VAR it's been a massive failure if reducing controversy was ever it's intended goal.

For me it's been introduced with the purpose of entertaining armchair fans. Probably at the behest of the TV companies who now have a massive say in the game.

The in your recliner chair experience is admittedly quite good especially if you're watching a game as a neutral. However the in the stadium experience is entirely different and not in a good way.