BigAl Posted yesterday at 11:03 Author Report Posted yesterday at 11:03 30 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: I assumed he was including himself in that? I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I thought he played well in the last two games. His movement was very good on Sunday, making space for others, probably not noticeable on the telly. He's an intelligent player, who quickly gets to grips with the position he's asked to play. He's not a world beater, but slightly above average and can play in numerous positions. We need a player like that in the squad. It means that you don't have to overload the squad with shite. On the assumption that you're always going to have injuries, he's a reasonably dependable all rounder that can cover, meaning that you can offer him twenty games a season comfortably and you don't need two players in every position. It's a case of better the devil you know, and we've seen how poor the signings have been, we'll definitely sign worse. He probably was but it brought to mind a favourite saying of my late mother's "Let he without sin, cast the first stone" You may well be right about his movement on Sunday as I know I've been at games in person before and thought someone was ok during the game only to read those watching on tv panning them, 1 Quote
RicoS321 Posted yesterday at 11:59 Report Posted yesterday at 11:59 1 hour ago, Jute said: Think he is too weak for our league. Easily brushed off the ball and rarely wins a tackle. Would probably be best for both parties if Polvara moved on. MLS would be best move for him as not as physical as our league. Not all aspects of a player's game require strength in the tackle though. Clarkson is weak in the tackle for example. He's fairly decent defensively despite being a poor tackler because his positional sense is decent. He's very two footed (probably the most two footed player in the squad), and is technically decent. He's a vast upgrade on utility players like Dom Ball for example, who was poor, but still a worthwhile squad player who covered numerous positions in the course of a season. He's already better than several of our squad in their preferred roles, so I wouldn't be confident we could go out and get better. None of this is to say he's good, just that he's above average. If we accept that his weakness is physical strength, then that's no different to accepting that Shinnie's weakness is pace, and Devlin's is technical ability. We make up for it by signing players who compliment, whilst working with Polvara on strength conditioning and not being a fanny. 1 Quote
TheDonbytheDee Posted yesterday at 12:17 Report Posted yesterday at 12:17 7 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: Not all aspects of a player's game require strength in the tackle though. Clarkson is weak in the tackle for example. He's fairly decent defensively despite being a poor tackler because his positional sense is decent. He's very two footed (probably the most two footed player in the squad), and is technically decent. He's a vast upgrade on utility players like Dom Ball for example, who was poor, but still a worthwhile squad player who covered numerous positions in the course of a season. He's already better than several of our squad in their preferred roles, so I wouldn't be confident we could go out and get better. None of this is to say he's good, just that he's above average. If we accept that his weakness is physical strength, then that's no different to accepting that Shinnie's weakness is pace, and Devlin's is technical ability. We make up for it by signing players who compliment, whilst working with Polvara on strength conditioning and not being a fanny. I agree with you on Polvara. I've read a fair amount of shyte about how bad he was on Sunday and I thought he did fine enough. I also think he is getting a bit more physical, but that just isn't his game. The loon is a good technical player, maybe just not suited best to our league. Thankfully he manned up last May, when he stepped up and put away his penalty. The best thing the club could have done for him when he signed, was to ship him to Arbroath, or some other Championship team to introduce him to the realities of Scottish fitba. For me our tactics are our biggest issue and most of our players are being sent on to the pitch to fail. None more so than our strikers. I actually feel sorry for Lazetic and Nisbet. 2 Quote
Blow.Up.Sheep Posted yesterday at 12:24 Report Posted yesterday at 12:24 3 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said: I agree with you on Polvara. I've read a fair amount of shyte about how bad he was on Sunday and I thought he did fine enough. I also think he is getting a bit more physical, but that just isn't his game. The loon is a good technical player, maybe just not suited best to our league. Thankfully he manned up last May, when he stepped up and put away his penalty. The best thing the club could have done for him when he signed, was to ship him to Arbroath, or some other Championship team to introduce him to the realities of Scottish fitba. For me our tactics are our biggest issue and most of our players are being sent on to the pitch to fail. None more so than our strikers. I actually feel sorry for Lazetic and Nisbet. Tactics, mate, you can actually see tactics in that shambles of set up, can you share them with me please as I canna see fk all. I am with you on feeling sorry for Nisbet, we all know he can score he has proved that, not sure about Lazetic but for now the jury is maybe out. But fk me we need to start getting back to basics and feeding our strikers give them chances to take and law of averages alone says they will score now and again. I am 100% convinced, give Nisbet a regular run of games (something he has not had this season) and feed him with chances and he will score more than he misses. Fk sake Aberdeen it's not rocket science 1 Quote
Mason89 Posted yesterday at 12:47 Report Posted yesterday at 12:47 In order to get the ball to Nisbet, it’s vital that it starts with Mitov making a 3 yard sideways pass to a centre half on the 6 yard line. That way, he can give the ball to an under pressure full back who has to pass it back the way to the centre half. From here, the important part is to thread a pass straight up the middle to a midfielder who is either facing his own goal, or isn’t looking at all This is the way football MUST be played. Otherwise, what’s the point? The paying public need to be entertained 1 4 Quote
TheDonbytheDee Posted yesterday at 12:50 Report Posted yesterday at 12:50 16 minutes ago, Blow.Up.Sheep said: Tactics, mate, you can actually see tactics in that shambles of set up, can you share them with me please as I canna see fk all. We have tactics, just shit ones. I'm never going to be able to bore the nuts off anyone about tactics, as that shit bores me to death. As stated in an earlier thread, I think the way we play is being is forced down on us from above. I expected Leven to stop the playing out from the back nonsense, but he seems to be setting up differently from when he took charge last time around. Lutz being beside him on the bench, is telling me that Leven is just carrying the can, but not calling the shots. Quote
Jute Posted yesterday at 17:31 Report Posted yesterday at 17:31 BBC running article saying Welsh might return to Motherwell if Celtic don’t need him. ETA link https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvg5v4ekrqqo Quote
Jute Posted yesterday at 19:27 Report Posted yesterday at 19:27 Alfie Stewart’s loan deal at Inverness extended. Quote
Ajja Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 11 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said: We have tactics, just shit ones. I'm never going to be able to bore the nuts off anyone about tactics, as that shit bores me to death. As stated in an earlier thread, I think the way we play is being is forced down on us from above. I expected Leven to stop the playing out from the back nonsense, but he seems to be setting up differently from when he took charge last time around. Lutz being beside him on the bench, is telling me that Leven is just carrying the can, but not calling the shots. This is my concern also. The whole set up feels like Lutz is the master puppeteer and we’re getting more Northern European crazy. Just get 3 in midfield to protect the back 4 and offer a platform, play the leftie on the left, the rightie on the right, hit the by line and stick Kev on the pen spot. I’m over simplifying it I know but we need to change something. 1 Quote
Blow.Up.Sheep Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 17 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said: We have tactics, just shit ones. I'm never going to be able to bore the nuts off anyone about tactics, as that shit bores me to death. As stated in an earlier thread, I think the way we play is being is forced down on us from above. I expected Leven to stop the playing out from the back nonsense, but he seems to be setting up differently from when he took charge last time around. Lutz being beside him on the bench, is telling me that Leven is just carrying the can, but not calling the shots. Exactly my concern also and have been saying it for ages. And they way Leven has lined up the team this last two games against ( a let's face it) a very very mediocre bang average huns team is a huge concern. Nothing has changed since we binned Jimmy and the early signs are fk all is going to change any time soon. I would like to see a decent manager come in grab the whole thing by the scruff of neck and batter us into shape, (but who in their right mind would be willing to take on this job at this moment in time) There is no doubt that we have some very decent and clever players in our squad, But they are being held back as our prawcess in place insists on trying to ram square pegs into round holes ffs As the lyrics of the song say ffs (changed slightly ) for fk sake ...............Take the shackles of their feet and let them dance Edited 15 hours ago by Blow.Up.Sheep Quote
Jute Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Ajja said: This is my concern also. The whole set up feels like Lutz is the master puppeteer and we’re getting more Northern European crazy. Just get 3 in midfield to protect the back 4 and offer a platform, play the leftie on the left, the rightie on the right, hit the by line and stick Kev on the pen spot. I’m over simplifying it I know but we need to change something. But that is the whole idea of the set up club have adopted is to have a style of place across all teams teams. This style is supposed to be set by the Director of Football and he is supposed to recruit coaches who will play that philosophy. I think Lutz Pfannenstiel was hired by club because he would implement the style the club are already trying to play so little chance we will move away from playing out from the back or inverted wingers sadly. Quote
Mason89 Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago I’ve no idea why we need a style and if we did, why the fuck we chose that one 2 Quote
Goldie03 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Mason89 said: I’ve no idea why we need a style and if we did, why the fuck we chose that one This for me too who the fuck decided that was the style best suited to our league. Surely adaptability depending on opponents, pitch & competition is the way to go. 2 Quote
Mason89 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Goldie03 said: This for me too who the fuck decided that was the style best suited to our league. Surely adaptability depending on opponents, pitch & competition is the way to go. I wonder if other teams still send scouts to watch our games before we play them Quote
Goldie03 Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago I'm guessing no need That's what we need in a new manager wild unpredictability and lots of goals Quote
Panda Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/6933646/aberdeen-transfer-nicolas-milanovic-confidence/ The gist of this being that two clubs interested in Milanovic, but Aberdeen only likely to let him leave on loan if they do let him leave. Palaversa, Nilsen, Besuijen, Yengi and Ambrose all getting to fuck. 1 Quote
RicoS321 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Panda said: https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/6933646/aberdeen-transfer-nicolas-milanovic-confidence/ The gist of this being that two clubs interested in Milanovic, but Aberdeen only likely to let him leave on loan if they do let him leave. Palaversa, Nilsen, Besuijen, Yengi and Ambrose all getting to fuck. Good news. All of those correctly dispatched, with Milanovic requiring a loan to confirm he's definitely pish sounds reasonable. Six out leaves a much easier squad to deal with. Quote
Panda Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago Interesting to note Stephen Welsh isn't in the Celtic squad tonight despite being recalled... Quote
manc_don Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Panda said: Interesting to note Stephen Welsh isn't in the Celtic squad tonight despite being recalled... I'm sure I read somewhere that he may even be going back to Motherwell? Quote
wee toon red Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago Seems like Celtic are hedging their bets. Must mean there’s at least a possibility of him going somewhere that isn’t Motherwell. Quote
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