Summer 2025 Transfer Window

[RicoS321]

51 minutes ago, Jute said:

Would expect Bavidge to go out on loan at least as does not seem to be getting a look at any of the first team games in preseason. 

Aye, would think so. I'd be very surprised if he was looking to leave. He'll be on relatively decent wages here, and he's done nothing at either loan to suggest he could make it with us. If he can get a good loan deal in the championship then he might manage to get some interest elsewhere in January or at the end of his contract with us. 

[tlg1903]

Was chatting with an ICT supporting pal a month or so ago about Bavidge. He liked him and said he proper knew where the net was but he did have a tendency to get his Casper on at times.

 

I've said my piece re euro reg rules and nothing has changed.  I just hope at least 2 of the 4 we are wanting in have been trained at a Scottish club for 3 years up to the age of 21. 

 

My feeling is re outs that Ruby will go, Jensen will go, Sokler will go and I think one of Morris and Polvara may go as well. 

[manc_don]

Can’t say I’m overly impressed by lazetic in all honesty. We need someone that is actually scoring goals, not talking 20+ a season currently, as let’s be honest, they wouldn’t be coming to us, but at least miovski had scored a couple of goals previously. The lack of goals even with the 3rd best Serbian team is a major concern. Got too many projects going on. VitT on Twitter seems to imply he is a bit more of a target man so that could potentially bring Yengi and the wingers in? 

[wee toon red]

9 minutes ago, manc_don said:

Can’t say I’m overly impressed by lazetic in all honesty. We need someone that is actually scoring goals, not talking 20+ a season currently, as let’s be honest, they wouldn’t be coming to us, but at least miovski had scored a couple of goals previously. The lack of goals even with the 3rd best Serbian team is a major concern. Got too many projects going on. VitT on Twitter seems to imply he is a bit more of a target man so that could potentially bring Yengi and the wingers in? 

While I take your point about wanting an established goal scorer, those don’t come cheap, so we might not have much option beyond another “project” player.

Miovski had scored 8 career goals by the time he was Lazetic’s age so not exactly prolific.

[Panda]

11 minutes ago, manc_don said:

Can’t say I’m overly impressed by lazetic in all honesty. We need someone that is actually scoring goals, not talking 20+ a season currently, as let’s be honest, they wouldn’t be coming to us, but at least miovski had scored a couple of goals previously. The lack of goals even with the 3rd best Serbian team is a major concern. Got too many projects going on. VitT on Twitter seems to imply he is a bit more of a target man so that could potentially bring Yengi and the wingers in? 

I dunno, I think he's an interesting one. 

Nisbet (and Miovski actually in the very few games he played under Thelin - I'm thinking St Johnstone away on the first day of last season) played deep and let someone else go beyond them.

I don't think we're signing Lazetic to play as a 20-goal a season striker (and if he does bang them in that's a bonus), I think we're signing him to compliment the other attacking players, ie create space for Keskinen, Aouchiche and Milanovic. 

Keskinen and Milanovic look like inside forwards rather than wingers, and you don't stick an Adam Rooney type next to them because he wouldn't get the service he needs.

[tlg1903]

24 minutes ago, Panda said:

I dunno, I think he's an interesting one. 

Nisbet (and Miovski actually in the very few games he played under Thelin - I'm thinking St Johnstone away on the first day of last season) played deep and let someone else go beyond them.

I don't think we're signing Lazetic to play as a 20-goal a season striker (and if he does bang them in that's a bonus), I think we're signing him to compliment the other attacking players, ie create space for Keskinen, Aouchiche and Milanovic. 

Keskinen and Milanovic look like inside forwards rather than wingers, and you don't stick an Adam Rooney type next to them because he wouldn't get the service he needs.

Yeah I would largely agree with this.  Geggenpress systems often have a striker that isn't necessary the most prolific.  Full backs tend to take over the wide midfielder duty of getting to the byline and wide midfielders, as you say, are inside forwards looking to get into the box and score themselves.  It doesn't necessarily mean they are incapable no 9's, there's just more competition in the box looking to score with the two inside forwards and often the full back on the other side in there too.    Bobby Firminho at Liverpool would be quite a good example maybe (not looked at any stats but the first player that came to mind) as I don't recall him scoring shit loads but I certainly remember him getting a fair few assists.  

 

 

[redordead]

Four?  Does that mean they'll listen to me and grab maswanhesi this week?. Proven goal scorer and creative influence in our league. 

If big Adil turns out to be shite, I'll harp on about this all season.

[OrlandoDon]

Four signings, I’m thinking a left back given shinnie and molloy’s showings in preseason, winger, forward, and Ronan hale. It’s been beaten to death but I actually watched about 10 mins of hale tonight, I think Rooney is a decent comparison, although hale seems to have more pace, maybe a better version of sokler too. Similar in style to shankland? Watched him score some pretty decent goals too and he’s certainly more than a penalty box player. He’s proven he can play in our league and with better talent around him I say he’s an upgrade on most, if not all forwards we have. If lazetic is signed, very similar to Yengi, hale offers something else, plus can play with one of them in a two. I’m assuming he’s a junkie or wife beater given nobody has picked him up?

[OrlandoDon]

Lazetic seems quite a technical lad, more than just a big lump. Some decent highlights on YouTube. Much like palaversa and adil, a young talent whose career stuttered. seems a better option than Ambrose and probably sokler, plenty of upside. At the same time, agree with whoever said, we’re signing a lot of projects/potential, but I suppose this is the player trading model.

[BigAl]

Doesn't sound like Ambrose is going anywhere soon as Jimmy in the press "bigging" him up 

[manc_don]

2 hours ago, BigAl said:

Doesn't sound like Ambrose is going anywhere soon as Jimmy in the press "bigging" him up 

I had this worry as soon as I saw he was playing against Ipswich! Really need to be pushing him out on loan. No idea what he’s seeing in training to keep him around.

[tlg1903]

8 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Four signings, I’m thinking a left back given shinnie and molloy’s showings in preseason, winger, forward, and Ronan hale. It’s been beaten to death but I actually watched about 10 mins of hale tonight, I think Rooney is a decent comparison, although hale seems to have more pace, maybe a better version of sokler too. Similar in style to shankland? Watched him score some pretty decent goals too and he’s certainly more than a penalty box player. He’s proven he can play in our league and with better talent around him I say he’s an upgrade on most, if not all forwards we have. If lazetic is signed, very similar to Yengi, hale offers something else, plus can play with one of them in a two. I’m assuming he’s a junkie or wife beater given nobody has picked him up?

The club have already poured cold water on the Ronan Hale link.  Think it was about a month ago. 

[OrlandoDon]

25 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

The club have already poured cold water on the Ronan Hale link.  Think it was about a month ago. 

I know and we’ve heard that many times, but what exactly can a club say about a player under contract with another club, not much. I think many of us are saying we could do a lot worse, and a fair few of us think he’d be a solid signing. We’re not signing much from clubs within the league, were miller, McGowan, and Cameron all missed opportunities? Perhaps hale isn’t one we should overlook?

[RicoS321]

11 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

I know and we’ve heard that many times, but what exactly can a club say about a player under contract with another club, not much. I think many of us are saying we could do a lot worse, and a fair few of us think he’d be a solid signing. We’re not signing much from clubs within the league, were miller, McGowan, and Cameron all missed opportunities? Perhaps hale isn’t one we should overlook?

Miller? As in Lennon? There was never an opportunity to sign him. The other two are only missed opportunities in that they are Scottish, and we need Scottish players. I think if we were looking at Hale, then Bruce Anderson would be a better bet, as he's Scottish and came through our youth system. Hale perhaps marginally quicker, but Anderson uses his body better. Both would depend on us offloading Sokler though, as I don't think either are any better than him. Sokler would score as many as Hale playing regularly for County. Both Anderson and, to a lesser degree, Hale are comfortable coming off the bench and finding the net instinctively, which would be worth having. Sokler needs game time to develop the habit of scoring - his movement and getting into the right position are not in doubt. 

[tlg1903]

49 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Miller? As in Lennon? There was never an opportunity to sign him. The other two are only missed opportunities in that they are Scottish, and we need Scottish players. I think if we were looking at Hale, then Bruce Anderson would be a better bet, as he's Scottish and came through our youth system. Hale perhaps marginally quicker, but Anderson uses his body better. Both would depend on us offloading Sokler though, as I don't think either are any better than him. Sokler would score as many as Hale playing regularly for County. Both Anderson and, to a lesser degree, Hale are comfortable coming off the bench and finding the net instinctively, which would be worth having. Sokler needs game time to develop the habit of scoring - his movement and getting into the right position are not in doubt. 

The only thing I would disagree with there is I think wee brucey is a more dangerous striker than Sokler. Different types of player though, Sokler will work the channels for you far more effectively than Anderson. 

[tlg1903]

1 hour ago, OrlandoDon said:

I know and we’ve heard that many times, but what exactly can a club say about a player under contract with another club, not much. I think many of us are saying we could do a lot worse, and a fair few of us think he’d be a solid signing. We’re not signing much from clubs within the league, were miller, McGowan, and Cameron all missed opportunities? Perhaps hale isn’t one we should overlook?

Exactly, they say nothing when asked about it. They don't say we have no interest in the player.  

 

I don't disagree he would be a solid signing incidently but I agree with Rico that wee Brucey would be a far better option 

[OrlandoDon]

1 hour ago, RicoS321 said:

Miller? As in Lennon? There was never an opportunity to sign him. The other two are only missed opportunities in that they are Scottish, and we need Scottish players. I think if we were looking at Hale, then Bruce Anderson would be a better bet, as he's Scottish and came through our youth system. Hale perhaps marginally quicker, but Anderson uses his body better. Both would depend on us offloading Sokler though, as I don't think either are any better than him. Sokler would score as many as Hale playing regularly for County. Both Anderson and, to a lesser degree, Hale are comfortable coming off the bench and finding the net instinctively, which would be worth having. Sokler needs game time to develop the habit of scoring - his movement and getting into the right position are not in doubt. 

We signed a young Lewis Ferguson, perhaps a year or two ago we could have gotten Lennon. My point is more that we missed the chance on him just like the ex Dundee boys. We are gambling on a sokler and Ambrose for example, why not gamble on one or two young Scottish Players. The buy Allie is an example too. Miller may never have been an option, we may have approached a year or two ago for all we know, but all I know is that he’s too far gone now.

[BigAl]

I don't personally believe even if we had made a move for Lennon Miller twelve months ago it would have made an iota of a difference.

Everything you have ever heard from Miller or his father have always backed up the plan they had of him serving his apprenticeship with Motherwell, getting a couple of years first team experience and then looking for a move to foreign shores.

I might well be wrong but in this instance I'd argue strongly that I'm not  

[OrlandoDon]

12 minutes ago, BigAl said:

I don't personally believe even if we had made a move for Lennon Miller twelve months ago it would have made an iota of a difference.

Everything you have ever heard from Miller or his father have always backed up the plan they had of him serving his apprenticeship with Motherwell, getting a couple of years first team experience and then looking for a move to foreign shores.

I might well be wrong but in this instance I'd argue strongly that I'm not  

Fair enough, my point was more that players in the Scottish market have been missed or are not considered, we were able to grab devlin, obviously Ferguson, Kenny McLean, mcginn, Rooney, Hayes etc from our league, do we still seriously look at home? Perhaps we’re simply priced out or dont see much value there anymore.

[tlg1903]

43 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Fair enough, my point was more that players in the Scottish market have been missed or are not considered, we were able to grab devlin, obviously Ferguson, Kenny McLean, mcginn, Rooney, Hayes etc from our league, do we still seriously look at home? Perhaps we’re simply priced out or dont see much value there anymore.

Since brexit there has been far more interest in Scottish youth from daan saaaf.  Being priced out is defo a thing now 

[RicoS321]

42 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Fair enough, my point was more that players in the Scottish market have been missed or are not considered, we were able to grab devlin, obviously Ferguson, Kenny McLean, mcginn, Rooney, Hayes etc from our league, do we still seriously look at home? Perhaps we’re simply priced out or dont see much value there anymore.

I think your point, overall, is a very valid one, I slightly object to Miller for the reasons @BigAl states, that's the only disagreement. I think including him in the list of players missed out on is harsh on the club, unnecessarily. The other two, definitely. I think the club are looking further afield perhaps because there is no real advantage to looking in this country if the player isn't Scottish? Not sure. I keep thinking the same as you, but then I struggle to name any good targets from other clubs either! Perhaps I'm just not paying attention. Devlin was obvious, as was Penrice for the diets. There wasn't an obvious candidate last season. 

[Jute]

Daily Ranger reporting a Turkish side are looking at making an offer for Gueye. 

[tlg1903]

Just now, Jute said:

Daily Ranger reporting a Turkish side are looking at making an offer for Gueye. 

Came to post this, if we got what we paid for him that would be solid business 

[Slim]

Turkish clubs are usually good for an over pay, hopefully get a few hundred k’s for him. 

[OrlandoDon]

7 minutes ago, Slim said:

Turkish clubs are usually good for an over pay, hopefully get a few hundred k’s for him. 

Na, £4m please.