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I honestly wonder if a miovski loan is possible. Get him some confidence and form so to advertise and help them get a return on a sale? Or he’s that good they give him another shot. center mid is a huge issue. I just don’t know how we complement Clarkson. He’s a deep lying mid and neither shinnie or sivert work well with him. I like those two but sivert isn’t mobile or athletic, and is careless. I don’t know where Shinnie plays, is he out of gas for the season or aging. He’s not the midfielder he was. Plus the 10 ahead of them is massive on how we attack and we don’t have that player in the squad. I think we thought that may be Clarkson but he’s clearly not.

Agree we were awful, and we’ve benefitted from mediocre players having purple patches. Both gueye and Morris had a good run of games for example, but they are squad players at best. We have minimal leadership on the field. And shinnie is aging, we can’t rely on him or old sivert. We need serious personalities in the squad. Think tobers is one but we need major mental and physical toughness from multiple players. We’re losing McGrath and I assume Mackenzie. And to your point, would anyone argue if we never saw a return next season of doohan ruby Richard Jensen gueye morris okkels palaversa mcgarry dabbagh Vinny Sokler Duncan Ambrose? We have a lot of average at best? It’s still a very poor squad.

Mitov jensen tobers kneuster clarkson topi id say that’s 6 starters for next season, and that’s assuming we’re all in on topi improving. Need to buy the rest.

Who hacked panda’s account? Agree with most of this! like you say, we need multiple windows and we had such a shit squad to being in with, the early run certainly papered over the cracks. Was thinking earlier how a sivert player is essential, but a younger more mobile and more athletic version for sure, and that costs money! And a leader, were spineless right now.

Just saw that. What a move it’s been, and as you say, winning captain playing the whole game. Wonder if this sets him up for a summer big money move. I know he’s been linked with Napoli, would be something to see him and McTom the top two midfielders in the league! Ball boy Gilmore gets to watch them daily!! Jokes aside, I rate Gilmore too. Maybe we can punt Ambrose to them for a few mill as the new lukaku?

I’m going with the assumption it was reverse psychology today, be total shite so they underestimate us in the final?

Smart man, couldn’t agree more!

It used to be that way too, and I thought we’d got away from that. Crazy to think how we played in the 3-3 cup semi and the 2-2 game pre Xmas. Totally different team now. We lay down twice and crumbled this week, and have done that three times to Celtic this season, correct?

Just saw the game was over, didn’t watch the game that closely as I was working. Not surprised dorrington saw red, booking in the second minute makes it tough for a defender against a team like Celtic. as mentioned, shinnie has certainly lost a step or two. He got exposed a bunch by an aging Forrest. Definitely need a left back this summer, amongst other things. going back to what panda asked (I think), have we improved? We lose a lot of goals, -12 now. That’s is awful. I took pride every year looking at the league and seeing us as one of the few teams with a positive goal difference. Redordead is the first one to question the manager, I still think he’s backed for multiple years but it’s certainly got us all thinking I’m sure. that’s 9-1 against a shit rangers and a Celtic B team, although Celtic B is relative, they would prob finish second in the league. That is not progress. Our defense has gotten worse over the season. dont know if kneuster is to blame, he’s been a plus this season, saw him referenced, but an ongoing issue is stopping the cross. Even the shankland goal in the semi was a result of shit pressure and defending from Morris allowing a ton of time for a cross. first 35 minutes we appeared to have no time or space and you see teams high press us. If it wasn’t for the crowd issue I see us going in 2 or 3 down at half, certainly not scoring. We cannot handle high pressure and belt it long as a result, giving the ball away. You’ve seen that a lot in recent games. Zero possession in midfield and zero passing. No clue how we get a positive result in the cup final. Battered twice this week, why would the final be any different? They looked so good today, but that’s because we were so bad. Fucked the goal difference too a now united have the better goal difference. Can’t lose this weekend, although is there a better euro draw for 4th than 5th?

Another cross another goal. Switching off. Painful. It will be more than 4. from the other thread, have we made progress? Defensively and from crosses we are horrendous.

We really are shite. Another attack wide, shinnie burned, and goal from a cross/cut back. They could hammer us if they want. We start the half well but are so easily cut open.

I’ll also add, two more goals from crosses. How can we be so bad at that!!!??

2-1 HT. But can’t say it’s undeserved, for 35 mins we were total piss. We give away such shit goals, a big factor in this team. Goal difference -9 now

1-1. Who would have thought.

Best part of the game so far. I suppose we have to restart at some point unfortunately.

Another honking game. Men vs boys. We haven’t completed three passes and getting pissed on. Could get hammered. 1 so far.

I’d assume tobers came back a little too early and he’s rested for this one with Saturday in mind? While he didn’t play well at ibrox, he’s one of our best and a starter when fully fit and I’m sure we’d play him if he’s fully healthy. Certainly hope there’s no damage done.

Could easily see two reserve teams tonight. Unlikely hibs get 2 points or less and we win out, plus do you have the cup final in mind? Could get mauled, could win! Starting to think maybe Ambrose does score the winner!

Nope! McMaster! Although I’ll take a last minute rougvie header too. No fucking clue what we’ll get tonight, hence he was as good as anyone!!!

I thought sokler was out. Plus I’d say you get the same odds for McMaster scoring as you would Ambrose.

Don’t know what to think about today. Part of me thinks a good performance and result today from us will motivate them for the cup final. Would like to see polvara at 10 today infront of Clarkson and palaversa. This is the type of game I’d take sokler up top but I believe he’s injured?? 1-1 McMaster

Same, meh on this. He’s known and pretty mainstream, haven’t seen anything overly creative or ahead of our time to suggest they’ll be world beaters. He was good with us with a good squad, but found wanting for the last three seasons for the most part. Will come down to summer signings, can they build a decent squad. Prob a very similar situation to us.

This is getting silly. We’re a bunch, for the most part, of strangers on an online forum. Pretty sure we aren’t all sober when posting either. I liken this to talking in the pub after a game. The original comment was straight after the rangers game too so I’m sure frustrations/anger was a factor. Plus after a few beers things do get heated and we put that in context. A point I made was simply that let’s try to keep to footie, I said that, we all may have differing beliefs and background and that’s fine. We’re certainly off topic too, I see Mcinnes went to hearts! My bad for going off topic. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, plus don’t usually get offended easily, although I definitely get fired up on some topics. Plus, obviously, tone context meaning etc can get misunderstood. One of the reasons I left LA was because you couldn’t breathe without someone being offered and voicing their displeasure. I commented that society is that way, better/worse depending where you live. That’s shitty, common sense has to apply sometimes. So I probably overreacted to the xenophobia comment in the first place. anyway, looking forward to 11 Scot’s starting for us in August. And panda, appreciate the message, all good!! Although your numbers were off, you’re usually right about 10%, and that’s me being generous…!

Agree with all of that. Plus, it’s not like there are a lot of good (available) Scottish players these days. I know my ask is not an easy one! But it’s an important one!

If Anton Rogan plays and is still on penalties we have a chance.