OrlandoDon

Anyone read the article about thelin not guaranteeing karlsson will be with us all season? I’d assume the karlsson camp aren’t overly happy with how things have gone to date??

Inverted wingers can work, seen it and coached it. But we’re doing it incredibly poorly. Inverted allows many things, including full back overlapping for width, cut inside for a switch of play/through ball to the opposite winger, penetrating ball to a diagonal run of a forward. We do little to none of that. We cut in and it’s crowded with very little movement. As a result we’re very limited in options so most often it’s sideways or backwards. Opponents get back, get set, and have time to be organized. Our inverted play is counter productive and quite often buys opponents time to get back. shady mo was very limited, but after a season or so with us figured out he simply had to knock it past a defender an go. We are so badly missing that. That’s a lot of goals/assists we have lost.

I cannot accept the type of support fo nisbet. He’s a forward who is meant to create and score goals. He isn’t doing that. Week in and week out. Looks off the pace much of the time too. He doesn’t combine with our center mids or wide guys (if we even have those), that I don’t really know what he does. I don’t know where hibs played him, but if he’s more of a 10 who plays with another forward, then that’s on Thelin. Lazetic was poor today, but has been ok most of the season and is young, hasn’t been a main 9 for a team as far as I know. Nisbet is an experienced pro. Working hard isn’t enough for me. football is mainly about two things. Not giving away goals, especially cheap goals, and scoring goals. We should see 18 months of Thelin work in these two areas, but today is a perfect example of where we are. We’re not bad at the back, and have looked better this season since the back 3, but even now we’re back to where we were last season where we look shaky at the back, bit nervous, and are giving away goals. We’re almost going backwards and getting worse defensively. In attack it’s all about the final third. Combinations, crosses, getting to the line, different types of runs to attack crosses, a forward laying off to a shot from a midfielder etc. I have absolutely no clue what we are trying to do in attack. And today isn’t a one off, this is the norm for us. Said it before, I’m an ‘A’ licensed coach with 30 years coaching experience. I have not clue what we are trying to do in attack. We don’t really see combos. Don’t see overlapping, don’t see width, don’t see getting to the line for crosses, don’t see early crosses or variations of crosses. What the fuck are we meant to be doing in attack?? I don’t believe nisbet, or karlsson, are bad players. But they are clearly not being utilized or playing to their ability level. That’s on Thelin too.

So two tough away games next, then two games v the Huns. Based on today, any points? We are powder puff up front, create little, and gift goals….. ugh.

It hurts my heart when I’d rather watch Motherwell play, they are an enjoyable watch, we are not. I want their manager.

Not quite sure what happened today, but like with st mirren and killie, thought our goal would pick us up and we’d go on and try to win it. Our goal killed our momentum and we were maybe slightly lucky to get a draw. im def turning on JT unfortunately, same shit week in and week out, and as much as we all have hope for belalovic, looks like he’s being coached as an inverted winger to come inside too. That shit is starting to make my blood boil! I just don’t see how a few more new players in January fixes things. Think we do have some good players who aren’t playing to potential, or coached properly to play to their strengths. I just don’t see how JT improves our play or makes us a good team.

He scored today but I’d be happy to send karlsson back and sign, permanently or loan, a pacey legit winger who will attack wide. Him on one side and belalovic on the other, with a proper 9.

Partly because we have no real attacking threat at 9, and neither wide player will attack the line. So we spend the day going sideways and backwards. Aouchiche and Armstrong will penetrate centrally as an attacking mid, but there’s zero quality attacking play for either wing or 9. It’s been a painful watch all season, we’re so predictable and honestly, the last 20, we may be the happier team to get a point.

First time I’ve said we need to sign a new 9. Nisbet and lazetic offered absolutely nothing at 9, very little threat and neither close to a scoring chance. Very hard to be an attacking threat when your center forward doesn’t really worry opponents.

This is utter piss.

Depressing stuff. We’ve been really poor since equalizing.

Game has changed, we’ve lost momentum. But nervy. lazetic hasn’t helped at all, nothing at 9! Chance at cm to give us energy, Kjarten??

Becoming too common, gift goals you gift games and points.

Why Kjarten? Aouchiche polvara and Armstrong have been decent. Topi and kev have not.

For all the possession has the keeper had a save? One shot straight at him for all the possession we’ve had. Def lazetic and bealovic on at half.

Everyone else has been good except those two, particularly aouchiche who really is wanting the ball. Lazetic and bilalovic. Please!

Ffs

Not bad but all left side. Absolutely nothing from topi.

Decent start, goal would be nice.

I think lazetic will be much more effective with legit wingers. Play him ahead of a proper attacking mid, which I do think Armstrong is, and two wingers, belalovic and a signing. Kjarten and aouchiche behind Armstrong is worth trying.

Watched the highlights again after seeing this chain pop up again. Then watched the Scotland Denmark highlights. Two games that still bring me close to tears! These types of games aren’t normal, when was the last time we had those types with such pressure and importance? I don’t include the euro tournament games as we’d already qualified and we weren’t under that pressure/expectation. we were such underdogs against Celtic, and hadn’t qualified for a World Cup in 27 years. The cup finals of 2014 and 1995 we were favorites, even the 90 final I think we were favorites.

So we’ve seen two of the three now, giving us hope, any nearer to a frame sighting?

Meant to add, I said during our bad start to the season that Thelin had to be given time, and I’ve stuck by that, I felt Xmas was a fair time to judge. The new summer players are well and truly bedded in and he’s had June- now to work with the new squad, obviously some players coming in August. While I am not demanding his sacking, it’s not pretty and doesn’t seem to be working. No signs in our style of play or performances to suggest we are heading in the right direction.

Assuming lobban is suspended. mitov devlin Milne knoester gyamfi Kjarten Bilalovic aouchiche Armstrong karlsson lazetic 2-1 us, lazetic bilalovic, although I fear we’ll be bullied and bombared by a tall and physical team.

There is nothing in our style of play that suggests Thelin ball is innovative or creative, or working. There’s no thelin stamp on our team of what he’s all about, and our team really doesnt have any identity. If anything, one of the few things he’s clearly brought is inverted wingers and that’s certainly debatable whether it’s been a good or bad thing. We have a battling quality at times but everything from Thelin and his nice quiet persona suggests that’s a player personality and nothing Thelin brings. I’d argue anything successful has been as a result of us having qualities in players rather than a well coached product of Thelin. I desperately want him to be successful and don’t want yet another manager, but there’s nothing overly positive. Pains me to write this but I suppose I’m being a realist. Surely by now we should see a style, an identity, a quality of some sort. We should be seeing progress on the field. We’ve won recently but has that been good play, good coaching, consistent performance, or good fortune? i also do feel we have enough talent to play better than we do. The gaffer is underachieving. Frustrating in a season that’s so rare that we could be challenging for the league due to both of the old firm being poorer at the same time. League and champions league are there for the taking. Not that we are ready for the champs league of course! said it today already, I like the look of Motherwell’s berthel askou, his team is an interesting watch. If we do change a manager I’d really want someone who has familiarity with our league and has been impactful in some form, Motherwell have made progress this season.