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Youād need to provide your definition of right wing for me to comment. My understanding has always been that right wing has some aspect of conservative beliefs or values and I donāt see that from the left. i wonāt back down from my argument that living here makes a difference. I was stunned when the comment āwho is Charlie Kirkā was made. Based on world response heās very well known. But that does depend on the coverage you get, Iād see him on shows and news daily, not just social media. But it depends on what you get in Britain from us. As Iāve overly stated, Iāve debated many times with my parents, I donāt believe you donāt get a fair reflection of what itās like here in the us, and what coverage gets sent to the UK. Iāve made comments about certain things over the last few years and my parents were clueless to what I was talking about. Thereās major incidents here that just donāt get covered in the left leaning news networks, which in believe is most of what you get. if you only watch msnbc or cnn you donāt get the whole story here either I suppose. Same with fox on the other side though, itās not news but news opinion or propaganda. I got slammed here in 2019/2020 when I said trump was the lesser of two evils when Biden won. I think the left/dems at present are more dangerous, and I think the 4 years under Biden made things much worse. Many point at trump, heās just less discrete and the media covers him in an extreme fashion, others, like it was with Biden, donāt seem to get the same exposure. one for you to watch, i predict insider trading drama here in the coming months, pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, AOC of late. Iām sure there are republicans too but itās just not out there at present. Laws will be put in place to limit/disclose, even ban investment activity with politicians.
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Itās either 5 or 6 points, seen two versions on the bbc! from how we played at the start of last season, we got the breaks and took chances. Weād have won yesterday by 2 or 3. Players will gain fitness, match sharpness, and chemistry. Iām optimistic. Even last season, as bad as we were from November onwards, had the last 2 weeks been different, weād be third. Everyone beats everyone (mostly) in our league. A good run and we shoot up the league. Just hope Europe and the volume of games doesnāt have a negative impact.
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Itās impossible to respond to that, so much there and I donāt have the time or interest to dive that deep. weāre talking current day politics, republicans and democrats, and the toxic and divisive environment. I do think it matters if you live here and are immersed in the culture. i asked you about your opinion on going to Aberdeen games live versus me who watches from afar. Are my opinions, if all I see and read is YouTube clips and the daily record online, as valid as you who see us live weekly and lives and breathes in the Aberdeen environment? I have worked in finance for almost 3 years. My portfolio is killing it right now. Had I listened to what the vast majority of news outlets here said at the start of the year about trump, tariffs, and the economy, iād be in a very different situation. All the āexpertsā there were wrong. I donāt believe most really believed what they were saying, it was simply anti trump. Iāve said it to my parents multiple times as well, I donāt think what you see and hear is totally accurate.
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Curious to know your take, do you think your opinion on Aberdeen as someone who goes to games regularly carries more weight than someone like me who only watches on my iPad and reads online?
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I suppose I should add I am not ignoring league form of 5 wins in 32 or whatever it is. At the same time, look at the squad overhaul since jimmy took over. That settles for a bit, cannot see an huge change I. January, surely we see improvement.
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Im going to assume Celtic find a late winner but itās irrelevant, weāre 5 points off third after the weekend going into a home cup quarter final, plus Europe to look forward to. Not bad considering we have 35 league games to play! yesterday showed shite but also promise. Based on highlights, On another day aouchiche scores, karlsson scores, Clarkson scores, polvaraās post was his European goal, fine line. We have a full week to train that I expect a fitter and more connected team next weekend. plenty of concern and negativity, but with a little time this could go very right. Cup win next weekend and a semi is a very positive boost too.
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Can you clarify/elaborate on your comments about not being against political violence?
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Harrisā protection was not removed. From what I understand, by law she got protection for 6 months, and she was given extra time, she got 9 months. Then the protection expired. So rather than it being removed, she was actually given an extension. you talk about trump pardoning but donāt talk about bidenās autopen granting pardons. Additionally, nobody actually knows who processed bidenās pardons. If I recall, his staffers were asked in congress under oath about it and they plead the fifth. Itās both sides, but if you are abroad you donāt get the full story as left leaning media doesnāt report it.
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Itās not about winning an argument, I think itās bigger than that. Winning and losing arguments is why we are at this point, weāre all losers at present. If you do some objective reading youāll easily find it. We see it daily. From three assassination attempts in the last year, 2 on trump and now Kirk, plus the violence around BLM or ICE, politicized to left leaning causes, itās all there. Listen to the likes of Tim Walz, AOC, its toxic. But you get similar on the right, thereās a lot of reflection needed that will unlikely happen. how much time have you spent in America?
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And this is where you lose me when we discuss politics. Iām not mental, the name calling starts. Been attacked here before, be it in 2020 when trump lost, or during Covid, so i tread lightly because people get personal really quickly, and ultimately Iām here for football. I am speaking from my experience living here, and the current situation, not about 50 years. I also treat many of you like my parents, if you donāt live here you get a filtered view of America in your media. I donāt know if anyone else lives here but many of you seem to believe you have a really tight and clear understanding of American culture and what itās like living here. From what I see and sense here, being around it daily, watching news here, CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc, (plus having watched Charlie Kirk at times in recent years), and maybe starting to pay more attention in the last 10 years or so, I form my views. The daily attacks on a government, the rhetoric of politicians on the left talking about hitler and fascism, that doesnāt help. Trying to assassinate a president, twice, doesnāt help. I think itās a statement in itself that weāve seen recent attacks on the right and thereās no violence. Had it been a left equivalent killed this week, I think there would have definitely been a left leaning violent response. Iāve also said I believe the one person who could really do something to make a positive different right now is trump. And he wonāt.
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I said the left was worse than the right and I believe that. I didnāt say the right was blameless or innocent. Both are at fault.
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Just watch the highlights and we certainly had chances, couple of really good ones too in aouchiche right at the start, karlsson, and Clarkson in particular. It still has to click, with chemistry, and a bunch of players still not fully match sharp, plus the two today who have never played in the SPL, and others while little Scottish experience. I think weāll come good, and based on results everyone is taking points off everyone except Celtic and hearts. I hate that the transfer window is open for a month of our season. I also hope we reflect on the number of preseason games we play. We look slow and need game time. It will come!
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I do believe the left is worse than the right, both in speech and in acts of violence, and donāt necessarily disagree with the blame. As you know, I lean right and support much of what the right is saying. But the one person who I truly believe can make a difference right now is trump. The left are a mess with poor leadership, if trump made a conscious effort to speak about turning the temperature down, including stopping the name calling, hitler, facist etc, that would help. However, he was the initial name caller, although much being stupid and childish names, for which he most likely wonāt stop. Itās hard for him as Kirk was a close friend of his, but he has to step above it all and I donāt think heās capable. if trump was to focus on policy that is more agreeable and find easy wins where he can work with the left, showing the willingness to unite and collaborate, I think weād see a difference. But he wonāt. You also clearly see this here, the left wonāt support trump with anything, regardless of topic. If trump tried to defuse a bomb the left would attack him for being insensitive to the bombs rights and invading its space. The left will argue against trump simply for it being trump. much like Ukraine and Russia, Israel, etc, it requires concessions, sacrifice in stance for the greater good etc, and I donāt think trump is a compromising guy. I also donāt think the left would compromise and work with him regardless of topic.
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Problem with Clarkson is I donāt think he suits a 4-2-3-1. At the same time I donāt know if we have two deeper midfielders who suit this formation. Think we may be better suited to a 4-1-4-1 where one player sits with two more advanced/attack minded. Think that would suit the likes of Clarkson palaversa Armstrong shinnie and polvara, most of our central midfielders actually.
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Positives, we didnāt lose or conceded. Think our left back looks decent. Karlsson created for himself and others. Not much but itās there. Main negative, no win no goals. willing to give us time, itās been a huge overhaul in players over the last year. But we were slow and clunky. We need to gel and get chemistry fast. Very clear weāre a bunch of players who donāt know each others play or habits. concerted topi and adil are too similar, run around a lot with minimal end product. Iād be inclined to go with milanovic and karlsson wide with Armstrong at 10. No clue who our best two center mids are and what partnership works. Canāt stand seeing polvara at left mid. Would rather see the new young Swede who is a winger. similarly to rangers, we are a team without chemistry or identity, and look rather lost. Certainly hope we pull it together. Although weāre prob similar to man utd bringing in so many players year after year, they have looked lost for years. Brings me back to Scottish players and identity, hope we find it with a core of long term consistent players.
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I believe we know a little so far, he had posted/commented that he had issues with Kirk and his beliefs. Donāt think heās considered far left or even a democrat though, just someone who had issues with what Kirk was saying and doing.
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Definitely clunky, but it canāt be perfect immediately. We definitely need a goal for confidence. Hey one and I think weāll see more.
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Good balance of experience and youth there. I suppose we should look at nisbet kind of as a player coming back from injury versus a new signing. Knows the club manager and many players. lazetic (and Armstrong?) should get 20 mins or so, keen to see us hit form!
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Itās been an interesting week. So far no reaction. No riots, looting, or violence we have seen in recent times when there has been a high profile shooting. Lots of talk about faith, family, love, and how we can better get along. Although it has been said that the left is the side that riots, and itās the right this time. That could certainly change but a very different reaction to a potential āarchdukeā moment for now.
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I agree with you itās been romanticized a little as he could come across as arrogant or condescending, but he was very confident and knowledgeable, and a very good guy. You can find a ton of stuff out there positive about him, depending on the clips you see will certainly influence your opinion of him. It was called debate because he challenged anyone to come and talk to him to discuss any topics or view points. Quite often those who came to talk to him knew very little of what they were talking about, just what they had been told to believe. He tried to help them open their minds with another viewpoint, or he asked them to really think about what they were saying and believing, and why. he went to college campuses because here, and maybe in other countries, educational institutions are very left leaning and more indoctrinating than educating at present. Thatās what he fought against. He gave college kids information, an education, and viewpoints they were not being given from educational institutions. Heād argue the college kids were the activists who were being fed an agenda rather than a broad and impartial education. Heād also debate those who called him spreading misinformation as he felt it was those very people that were quite often spreading misinformation. He would elaborate a lot as to why he believed the way he did, rather than many of the college kids who believed what they were being told to believe. He challenged them to educate themselves and really think. you highlighted vaccines and heād talk about how influential big pharma is in this country, the politicians they fund, institutions like the CDC which they fund and have/had board members, and the agenda of people and committees/organizations making decisions that were for personal and financial gain over the greater good. in USA our children are required to take so many more vaccines than Britain for example, and the health of the country is tanking while Parma gets very rich. Something is off and heād expose that. He discussed the covid vaccine as a perfect situation where it was pushed, mandated in places, because people benefitted financially, not because it made a significant positive difference. People got very rich. This has been debated a lot in congress of late and the effects of the vaccine, tough for some people to hear or accept. he'd discuss illegal immigration. We have laws here that were not being inforced. Why have laws? This country is so much in debt and illegal Immigration is over extending resources such as housing, healthcare, education etc., as well as the increase in crime. he pushed an agenda of American/citizens first, rather than a party who appeared to prioritize illegals over āhard workingā legal citizens. A lot of people support that. hed discuss illegal immigration and the effect on population, and how voting and governmental seats are decided. I referenced this earlier this week. He discussed that the left are targeting immigration as a way of realigning districts and the allocation of seats. An ongoing issue here that both parties have exploited, and continue to exploit. Heād expose that and show how illegal immigration can buy votes, showing those who may not have been aware. A lot of people donāt understand how that works in America and the effect of an influx of people can have on the voting community. hed discuss crime. If someone committed a crime they were taken away from their family. If they are illegal and commit crimes they get deported. That may take someone from their family too but crimes are crimes and heād talk about enforcing laws for the greater good of a country. you and I clearly have different beliefs but Kirk created a venue for debate and discussion, something that doesnāt happen a lot at the moment. No clue where you live but Iāve seen Kirk a lot and I certainly donāt see him as the guy you present. he gave the other side and sometimes people didnāt like how he did that but, in todayās society, people quite often canāt handle another viewpoint regardless of how itās presented. He pushed discussion between differing viewpoints, presented an argument that quite often isnāt popular or gets shot down as misinformation because it doesnāt fit the narrative, and was killed for that.
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Iām very excited for tomorrow, as if itās the first game of the season. Iād really like to see gyamfi karlsson and lazetic start tomorrow. Thelin said everyone is fit but not all are fully match fit, Armstrong wasnāt with a club so Iād say we may not see him tomorrow. Nisbet hasnāt played a lot either so off the bench makes sense. As you say, too many changes isnāt ideal either. Was said earlier in the week, milanovic may be on the bench since heās travelled, so maybe topi in the right. with karlsson on the left and having familiarity playing with sivert, wonder if we see the experience of sivert and shinnie in the middle with karlsson adil and topi behind lazetic. Weāre young too so experienced leaders in the middle may be wise to start. i think we see goals tomorrow.
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The world would be a better place if we all avoided social media!
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Ha, Epstein isnāt going away. Although, I said this before, thereās too many big and powerful people who have been to the island for significant and overly revealing info to come out. trump and Kirk weāre good friends and from what Iāve heard trump was on the phone with his wife for significant time on Wednesday when this all went down. I donāt see him creating this mess and he seems quite affected by it.
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Definitely crazy times and my wife and I talk about it quite a lot. As many of you know, we were forced out of California, lost jobs, and kids kicked out of school, all because of California politics. Itās a very divided country with very differing beliefs. However, I donāt know how a civil war would play out, most of the major cities are democratic and outside everyone else is republican, itās not quite the north south divide. the conspiracy theory is that Charlie Kirk was such an up and comer that he was becoming too popular and influential. The dems had a stronghold on the young vote until recently when Kirk, Ben Shapiro etc started their college tours and talk about the other side of what students learn in college. The dems are losing the young vote. immigration is such a key issue at present too and I am sure you hear about the ICE raids. Population decides the number of govt seats each state gets, and that includes illegal aliens. Remove illegals and places like California, democratic, lose seats while places like Florida, republican, could gain. That decides an election. Little here is done for the good of the people, itās all left or right and who must win. This is the perfect time for both parties to make a clear effort to tone it down and get along but they wonāt do it.
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The republican partyās Ben doak. Hugely popular, 31 yr old. Many felt a future president. Family man, Christian, founded turning point USA about 12 years ago. Spent a ton of time on college campuses promoting free speech and openly encouraged debate between differing viewpoints. He felt college campuses were very left leaning so was committed to help dialog between differing viewpoints and parties. Thereās a ton of stuff about him online but, as is the case with politics today, depending who you read youāll get very differing viewpoints.