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Who cares about that, no self respecting Aberdeen supporter should be watching that nonsense. The criminal boy at Livvy is doing a great job.

Valid reason to like someone, I applaud that. Maybe I should reassess 😀 

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Another two farcical penalties in EPL. Neither were deliberate attempts to play the ball and both were natural positions for defenders running yet VAR decides both are penalties. These decisions and the offside from the Leeds game yesterday are just further evidence VAR needs binned ASAP. 

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2 hours ago, Jute said:

Another two farcical penalties in EPL. Neither were deliberate attempts to play the ball and both were natural positions for defenders running yet VAR decides both are penalties. These decisions and the offside from the Leeds game yesterday are just further evidence VAR needs binned ASAP. 

The weakness is always going to be the human in control of it.  It's been a massive pain in the a-league for the last 3 seasons, but there are times it's prevented the aussie bias.

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4 hours ago, tup1 said:

Huns 8 Hamilton 0.

Scottish football turning into a totally rigged shambles once again, despite the previous huns being liquidated. A fix from start to finish.

I saw that tonight and thought the same. If they cunts win it this season it really will be back to business as usual. I'm sure Mr Milne and many others will be happy though with a strong and stable pretendy rangers.

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MLS play off game between Orlando and NYCFC was a total shambles tonight. Orlando keeper saves the final spot kick for New York but was off his line so retake. Orlando keeper then gets a second yellow in aftermath and is sent off. Orlando try to sub on back up keeper but you cannot in a shoot out so outfield player has to go in. New York score the retaken penalty. Nani then misses 5th penalty taking it to sudden death. Both teams score next penalties making it 5-5. Outfield player then saves next New York penalty and Orlando players run off the pitch celebrating despite it still being 5-5 and have to be brought back for Orlando’s final penalty which is scored to win the game. Absolute shit show but great entertainment. 

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32 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Nah, watch the whole thing

 

pens

Definitely watch the whole thing if you can, you get a much better view of it, it's fantastically bad. You can skip the first 5-6minutes if you don't care about the other pens. It is probably the best thing I've seen all season.

 

Edit: it just shows though, Scotland are fairly lucky to have got through against Serbia, as Marshall was definitely off his line. Thank christ VAR wasn't on the go.

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On 23/11/2020 at 10:56, RicoS321 said:

Definitely watch the whole thing if you can, you get a much better view of it, it's fantastically bad. You can skip the first 5-6minutes if you don't care about the other pens. It is probably the best thing I've seen all season.

 

Edit: it just shows though, Scotland are fairly lucky to have got through against Serbia, as Marshall was definitely off his line. Thank christ VAR wasn't on the go.

From memory VAR was in play for play offs.

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3 hours ago, Jute said:

From memory VAR was in play for play offs.

It was which is why Marshall stopped to check with the Ref before the celebration

As for trying to sub during a penalty shoot out I can't say I knew if it was an official rule but in the 27+ years Ive actually followed football it was always the case that subs had to be done before the ref's final whistle hence bringing on a striker, or even subbing the keeper in In injury time (English playoff final 1996 springs to mind). I'd say there are a few MLS  Officials who might find themselves refereeing the USA equivalent of Albion Rovers vs Cowdenbeath for a few months after that episode
 

 

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1 hour ago, Madbadteacher said:

Apropos of the above, been watching the West Ham v Villa game this afternoon and Grealish is a nasty wee cheat of a player. Talented, but falls over very easily 

Always had that in his repertoire. Shame really as he really doesn't need to. Talented player in his own right.

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The offside decision given that chopped off the goal was a farce. Another where it was the players upper arm that was beyond last defender. Rule really needs changed and VAR changed to only being clear and obvious errors only. 

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10 minutes ago, Jute said:

The offside decision given that chopped off the goal was a farce. Another where it was the players upper arm that was beyond last defender. Rule really needs changed and VAR changed to only being clear and obvious errors only. 

What constitutes clear and obvious? Why is it clear and obvious when Celtic got a penalty, but not when Rangers got a penalty? What is the actual point of VAR full stop? Are there enough clear and obvious errors to merit it? How many clear and obvious errors have referees made for or against us this season? Was Ojo's "contact" against the hun enough to be a penalty, or just part of normal play? Was Considine's arm on the shoulder something that could have been proven to have occurred at every single corner in the game?

It's a ridiculously flawed product (and it is a product, let's be clear). It simply moves the point at which the decision becomes contentious from referee to video. For the number of decisions it "solves" it really isn't worth it. The entire concept is, and always has been, flawed.

In my opinion, the only decisions that VAR should be making are those that are offside and thus can be proven with absolute certainty. If the techonology can't do that quick enough, as is currently the case, then it shouldn't be used. See goalline technology for a working example.

It's simply impossible to change VAR for offside to what is clear and obvious, because again you are simply moving the point at which the decision becomes contentious. Anyone suggesting that offside - on its own - needs to be changed to being clear and obvious simply hasn't thought through how that process would occurr, and the point at which offside comes into play. Any through ball where the player is playing the line falls into the category of "requiring investigation". At the point of investigation, you can only say "yes, it was offside" or "no, it wasn't offside" - there is simply no grey area with offside. You can't say, "well, it's only his arm that is offside", or "only his leg" or whatever, without introducing some sort of consistent measure - e.g. "if there's daylight" or some pish - at which point that will become the new target for complaint.

I don't understand why people don't get it with VAR. It will never work, and the decisions for which it does work are so infrequent as to make little difference in the overall scheme of things that it can never be worthwhile. All it does is move the point of contention from the ref to the video panel. That's all it would ever do. Why did you choose to highlight point X, but not point Y? You've highlighted point X, but in slow motion it is always going to look worse. You've highlighted point Y, but you've still got it wrong because you don't understand the game. Who are these people? And so on.

Spend the money on getting better support and training to refs as well as building a bit of respect for them alongside transparency over their decisions. Or just accept that bad reffing is part of the entertainment of our sport, as it always has been, and that a fake set of refs behind a telly completely devalues that.

Fuck VAR, in short.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Jute said:

St Mirren and Killie found guilty of breaches in COVID procedures and 3-0 wins awarded to Motherwell x2 and Hamilton. Moves Motherwell on to 21 points and Hamilton on to 11.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11781/12150083/coronavirus-kilmarnock-and-st-mirren-sanctioned-for-breaches-of-covid-19-protocols

Well have done pretty well out of Covid!

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1 hour ago, tup1 said:

Congratulations to the Millwall supporters for booing the taking of a knee.

Hopefully other teams fans follow suit and we get rid of this political virtue signalling from football forever.

Millwall booed as they are thick racist cunts. No other reason.

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