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[TheDonbytheDee]

55 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

 

I’m not sure were operating in a market where we’re better than that 

The truth is, we are closer to St Mirren as a club, than we are any of the big boys.

I've said it before, I don't think we are big enough to be trying to emulate the big boys of football.

I'd rather we concentrate on being a competitive team and a place where youth gets a chance.

 

 

[Mason89]

We’re in this depressing Goldilocks Zone where we expect to be better than the rest but we’ll never afford players to do it. 
As you say, being well organised, difficult to beat with some youth players coming through and everyone would be happy(ish) 

Do that and our slightly larger budget should see us above the shite more often than not 

 

[wee toon red]

The big question mark over McGlynn is how he'd fit into the sporting director structure we've got now. Strikes me as the kind of old school manager who thrives when wheeling, dealing and bringing in players he finds. That's not how we're supposed to be working.

[Slim]

To be fair to McGlynn I think he is being unfairly stereotyped based on his age (and probably appearance). As can be seen from his LinkedIn page, he's fluent in Cormackese which suggests he'd be handy firing out tactical analysis slide decks on a laptop: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-mcglynn-3a53586b/?originalSubdomain=uk

• Talent focused – Identify early, mentor, develop, perform and maximize value
• Organised and structured with a results focused attitude

[RicoS321]

4 minutes ago, Slim said:

To be fair to McGlynn I think he is being unfairly stereotyped based on his age (and probably appearance). As can be seen from his LinkedIn page, he's fluent in Cormackese which suggests he'd be handy firing out tactical analysis slide decks on a laptop: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-mcglynn-3a53586b/?originalSubdomain=uk

• Talent focused – Identify early, mentor, develop, perform and maximize value
• Organised and structured with a results focused attitude

Yep, he was a scout for the Tims, he knows how the system works and any time you hear him speak, he's well versed. Robinson I'd be far less sure about. 

 

46 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

We’re in this depressing Goldilocks Zone where we expect to be better than the rest but we’ll never afford players to do it. 
As you say, being well organised, difficult to beat with some youth players coming through and everyone would be happy(ish) 

Do that and our slightly larger budget should see us above the shite more often than not 

 

We had that under McInnes and a large number of fans weren't happy. We also largely failed with that model since the mid nineties through to the point the Hun went bust. It had a ceiling, and McInnes was it. 

Maybe that is our actual ceiling. I tend to agree that our budget will never be enough to buy success, or consistency, it doesn't buy enough additional players to cover injury even if all signings were perfect. However, I'm loathe to criticise Cormack for recognising that ceiling and trying to implement a strategy to break through it. That he seems incapable of implementing, or letting others implement, the strategy is the problem. 

[Mason89]

5 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

We had that under McInnes and a large number of fans weren't happy. We also largely failed with that model since the mid nineties through to the point the Hun went bust. It had a ceiling, and McInnes was it

That’s glossing over a number of Dereks failings there. 

[2stars]

Robinson has worked on building a team that is hard to beat, works hard and physically competitive - where is the players for him to work with in our squad?

Shinnie and Devlin but that’s about it and they are getting to the end of their careers 

Apart from the cup win, even his stock in trade hasn’t worked and their form is as bad as ours. 
like replacing Jimmy with another Jimmy (cup win masking over the cracks)

maybe it has just gone stale at Paisley after punching above their weight for last couple of years and the cup win made players believe they were better than they are

i agree that we are no better or worse position that St Mirren despite wasting some money on players not good enough, but for all the vision of wanting to play attractive football, only Motherwell have really managed to do that competitively and will still likely win nothing.

Cathro, Maloney and Glass were appointed to play open attractive football but didn’t work in this league as the majority of the other teams just physically outmuscled them

I just hope we get the right balance of steel and silky football correct this time 

 

 

[RicoS321]

30 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

That’s glossing over a number of Dereks failings there. 

So? Those failings are the same for any single manager given the keys to the building. Not bringing through youth, limiting your signings to the lower English leagues, pragmatic football, grinding out results, signing players who have had a couple of good games against you. These are all symptoms of a structure where the manager is unaccountable until they're sacked, at which point you realise that they're accountable for absolutely everything and you need to start again. 

[Mason89]

But surely that’s how all football clubs have been ran since the game began? We’re reinventing the wheel here & it Scotland especially, it’s not necessary. In fact, it’s demonstrably worse 

I understand the game is changing but even still… 
 

[TheDonbytheDee]

2 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I understand the game is changing but even still… 
 

Aye, but the change isn't really for the better.

We are quite possibly just legacy fans with no place in the modern game.

I mean, I don't even do AberDNA and yet here I am, on here complaining about our latest signing.

The cheek of it.

 

[Mason89]

I find the very thought of AberDNA morally repugnant 

No offence to anyone that’s bought it like