Crazy American Politics

[OrlandoDon]

29 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

No it isn't. Well, not according to the maps our governments let us see. Perhaps you have different ones.

Apologies for the source. Not as accurate as my trundle wheel, but this is what I mean.

[Don Julio]

The thing about all this is that the US already has a right to position troops in Greenland and has in fact reduced troop numbers from about 2000 to 200 I think.

You can maintain a nuclear umbrella without having to invade someone else’s territory.

[OrlandoDon]

8 minutes ago, Don Julio said:

The thing about all this is that the US already has a right to position troops in Greenland and has in fact reduced troop numbers from about 2000 to 200 I think.

You can maintain a nuclear umbrella without having to invade someone else’s territory.

Pure speculation/opinion, but I suspect the US hand is being forced by increased Russian activity in the region. US is also leaning much more on allies for support with the threat of tariffs (eg denmark) for whom the US provides military and or financial support. I think trump is the type that’s now asking other countries for support in return for continued benefits from the US. I think the feeling is that the US has provided support to other counties with little return, now they are being asked to do more, including support with Greenland.

[RicoS321]

3 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Apologies for the source. Not as accurate as my trundle wheel, but this is what I mean.

I'd have thought that as a Scot, you'd be a bit reticent to equate North America to the US! It's like being called English. The Canada part being fairly significant when discussing Greenland. Trump will almost certainly view Canada as the next logical acquisition (because it is) if Greenland is not fought for. With their capturing of Venezuelan heavy oil, it would certainly make the acquisition easier.

[Mason89]

He’s really starting to unravel. This is the start of the end. 
Buckle up 

[manc_don]

I thought everyone knew that the cartels were US / CIA funded and developed? They allow the drugs to come in.

[Slim]

And that’s another pardoned drug dealer to add to the list.

[Jute]

17 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Pure speculation/opinion, but I suspect the US hand is being forced by increased Russian activity in the region. US is also leaning much more on allies for support with the threat of tariffs (eg denmark) for whom the US provides military and or financial support. I think trump is the type that’s now asking other countries for support in return for continued benefits from the US. I think the feeling is that the US has provided support to other counties with little return, now they are being asked to do more, including support with Greenland.

Only one member of NATO has ever triggered article 5 to get other countries to come to their aid and that was the U.S. and NATO did. This includes Denmark who suffered the highest per capita casualty rate of any of the countries so to claim that U.S. gets nothing from other countries is laughable on that basis alone. Then look at the money the U.S. defence industries get from NATO members since its inception. It is again farcical to suggest no to financial benefit from this. The US already the right to increase number of troops in its bases in Greenland if they are worried about security and alleged increase Russian activity (same Russians his policies are assisting in Ukraine but that’s a different discussion) but it should be pointed out that NATO have said no Russian ships have been in Greenland waters for a number of years. This is nothing to do with security it’s all to do with the Poundland Mussolini wanting to be able to say he has made America greater again by expanding territory. He wants to get his face on Mount Rushmore like the other U.S. Presidents that have expanded the U.S. for his ego nothing more. 

[Mason89]

I don’t think the senile orange nonce has factored in that the Boghead Youth Army (hated but rated) could take faslane in 2 minutes 

How secure is Greenland looking then!? Prick 

[CurlsLikeTattie]

19 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Im not 100% certain but I read that with the arctic melting you could see about 40% of world trade using the waters around Greenland. 

 

Maybe he should focus more on reducing greenhouse gasses and the slowing/reversing the climate emergency to stop the ice caps melting, ergo stopping the baddies from getting through that way.

But no, "drill baby, drill"

[swaddon]

24 minutes ago, CurlsLikeTattie said:

Maybe he should focus more on reducing greenhouse gasses and the slowing/reversing the climate emergency to stop the ice caps melting, ergo stopping the baddies from getting through that way.

But no, "drill baby, drill"

There's no money to be made from helping the planet.

If there was, then there would be no climate crisis.

[CurlsLikeTattie]

5 hours ago, swaddon said:

There's no money to be made from helping the planet.

If there was, then there would be no climate crisis.

One could argue, if we all fry or drown then there will be no means to make that precious money. But, I suppose there will then be no need for money, so we might as well grab as much as we can whilst we can.

A large part of me thinks the sooner we wipe ourselves out the better. We don't deserve to be in control of a place like this - or be allowed to go and colonise other worlds. The 1%. What a (mostly) bunch of cunts who ruin it for everyone else.

[Jute]

Trumps letter to prime minister of Norway is unbelievable. 
 

He is clearly spiralling and somebody in the U.S. government needs to enact the 25th Amendment and get him removed on grounds of ill health. 

[Kowalski]

13 minutes ago, Jute said:

Trumps letter to prime minister of Norway is unbelievable. 
 

He is clearly spiralling and somebody in the U.S. government needs to enact the 25th Amendment and get him removed on grounds of ill health. 

Agreed but there’s a whole bunch of cretins that must be supporting him / behind it. 

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, CurlsLikeTattie said:

A large part of me thinks the sooner we wipe ourselves out the better. We don't deserve to be in control of a place like this - or be allowed to go and colonise other worlds. The 1%. What a (mostly) bunch of cunts who ruin it for everyone else

We're not in control of anywhere, hence climate change and the sixth mass extinction. We definitely will not be colonising other worlds, it's not remotely possible and we'd run out of resources trying. Indeed, once we reach the point where the resources we need require more energy to extract than they return then there is no further modernity. That will be it, forever. Our fossil fuels were a one-time bonanza. The 1% are no more in charge of the technological system than you are I. 

[Slim]

Won't be long before we're buying desalinated water from Nestle because all the natural water sources are being consumed by data centres to power the AI bot farms that are convincing your Granny that Al Qaeda is coming for her pension.

[Mason89]

Just passing the time at work & watching Donnie’s speech to the WEF. It’s quite something. Telling a town full of German speakers they’d all be speaking German if it wasn’t for the US 

77 million Americans chose him to lead the nation and represent them on the world stage. Mind boggling. That’s before you even mention the fact he operated the worlds biggest nonce ring 

 

[Kowalski]

4 hours ago, Mason89 said:

Just passing the time at work & watching Donnie’s speech to the WEF. It’s quite something. Telling a town full of German speakers they’d all be speaking German if it wasn’t for the US 

77 million Americans chose him to lead the nation and represent them on the world stage. Mind boggling. That’s before you even mention the fact he operated the worlds biggest nonce ring 

 

And mixing up Iceland and Greenland. 

They don’t seem to give a fuck in the USA thought. Pariah state. 

[Mason89]

43 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

And mixing up Iceland and Greenland. 

They don’t seem to give a fuck in the USA thought. Pariah state. 

You may have thought he’d mixed up Iceland with Greenland but it didn’t happen, even though we all heard him say it a few times. We’re all wrong 

[TheDonbytheDee]

He's backtracked on Tarrifs and also sounds like a shift in his Greenland/Iceland position.

For those more in the know than me. Does he have any moderates in his cabal, that can point out potential shitstorms he creates.

 

[Mason89]

2 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

He's backtracked on Tarrifs and also sounds like a shift in his Greenland/Iceland position.

For those more in the know than me. Does he have any moderates in his cabal, that can point out potential shitstorms he creates.

 

It’s an eclectic mix of bootlickers, fascists, blackmailed sex offenders, cowards, dunces & opportunists. There are no moderates in the GOP 

I think they just let him crack on with the nonsense, so they can get on with doing what they have to do in the background. It also keeps the other stuff out the headlines for a bit 

[Jupiter]

59 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

He's backtracked on Tarrifs and also sounds like a shift in his Greenland/Iceland position.

For those more in the know than me. Does he have any moderates in his cabal, that can point out potential shitstorms he creates.

 

This is a classic negotiating tactic. If you want to do something controversial, start by proposing something completely outrageous. Then when you drop it after a few days, what you really want to do sounds much more reasonable.

[Mason89]

7 minutes ago, Jupiter said:

This is a classic negotiating tactic. If you want to do something controversial, start by proposing something completely outrageous. Then when you drop it after a few days, what you really want to do sounds much more reasonable.

Or they could have just threatened to leak the Epstein files. I’d image theres plenty of people out there that know what’s in them 
 

[CurlsLikeTattie]

1 hour ago, Mason89 said:

It’s an eclectic mix of bootlickers, fascists, blackmailed sex offenders, cowards, dunces & opportunists. There are no moderates in the GOP 

I think they just let him crack on with the nonsense, so they can get on with doing what they have to do in the background. It also keeps the other stuff out the headlines for a bit 

Anyone seen that walloper of a congressman on newsnight last night telling the Icelandic, I mean Greenlander, minister how the people of Greenland would vote to be American in a referendum. seriously, where do they find these people!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e4W5lgfU9-Q&t=6s&pp=2AEGkAIB0gcJCTMBo7VqN5tD

[Kowalski]

As the markets have all bounced back you can probably suspect this is all about insider trading for his mates.