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[Reekie_Red]

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[tom_widdows]

The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games?

Yes 

For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games

Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult

 

Edited Tuesday at 23:16 by tom_widdows

[OrlandoDon]

42 minutes ago, tom_widdows said:

The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games?

Yes 

For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games

Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult

 

He had two excellent seasons with us, scored some quality goals, while coinciding with some absolutely god awful football. We became route one long ball, and I hated how we played. Read somewhere cosgrove got injured and isn’t the same player now, not sure how accurate. 

[Panda]

 

Talking of Sam Cosgrove, he was one of a number of well kent faces taking part in this. It actually reads like a list of Derek McInnes transfer targets.

As it goes, Cosgrove got the opening goal.

 

[OrlandoDon]

What was the deal with Jayden Shockley, he only lasted a season with us? Though he was a decent target man, seem to remember a lovely goal v Patrick thistle. I’m thinking he was black balled for being too physical?? Replaced him with his twin cosgrove.

Edited Wednesday at 00:52 by OrlandoDon

[Panda]

4 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

What was the deal with Jayden Shockley, he only lasted a season with us? Though he was a decent target man, seem to remember a lovely goal v Patrick thistle. Replaced him with his twin cosgrove.

Think he asked to leave because he wanted to play more regularly. We had signed Nicky Maynard, Stevie May and Greg Stewart, while Rooney was still first choice.

By all accounts Stockley had a decent enough scoring record after leaving Aberdeen. 

[OrlandoDon]

5 minutes ago, Panda said:

Think he asked to leave because he wanted to play more regularly. We had signed Nicky Maynard, Stevie May and Greg Stewart, while Rooney was still first choice.

By all accounts Stockley had a decent enough scoring record after leaving Aberdeen. 

Cheers. I didn’t think stockley or cosgrove were bad, especially cosgrove who scored a bunch. Although I do think that was the end for Mcinnes since our style of play went to shit and we were a horrible watch as I said.

[Reekie_Red]

Cosgrove was an odd one. He scored a fair amount of goals, but his first (abd second and third) touch was awful. For some reason the rub of the green seemed to favour him as often as it goes against someone like Laurent D'Jaffo: both equally average players. Cosgrove had the build, stature and touch of a Sunday League centreback / sweeper - but so much seemed to fall in his favour 

[DantheDon]

From what I remember Cosgrove had good enough positioning. To our detriment the team was set up around providing him service which wasn’t great. With his physical attributes he was difficult enough to handle and managed a decent return but was a bit of a poacher really. It was a failure of our scouting system that ultimately ended McInnes tenure. Why I still regard him as a good coach, Cosgrove is probably the best example of him getting the maximum from a player with limited ability.

[RicoS321]

1 minute ago, DantheDon said:

From what I remember Cosgrove had good enough positioning. To our detriment the team was set up around providing him service which wasn’t great. With his physical attributes he was difficult enough to handle and managed a decent return but was a bit of a poacher really. It was a failure of our scouting system that ultimately ended McInnes tenure. Why I still regard him as a good coach, Cosgrove is probably the best example of him getting the maximum from a player with limited ability.

Yep, that seems fair. McInnes had hit a huge dilemma as our manager. He'd mastered a formation and style that could beat anyone in the league outside the scum (one, at the time), but we couldn't lay a glove on the Tims or a particular level of European opponent. In Rooney, we had a prolific striker who was worse than useless against either. We didn't have the budget or scouting network (Milne controlled the former, McInnes the latter) to get a striker that could unlock that next level, at least in part. McInnes' answer was a big lad, which failed in Stockley, but Cosgrove was a success. He used his body well, and held the ball up well, and got into great positions as a poacher. He allowed us to play further up the park against the likes of the Tims and gave us something different (and possibly even better) than Rooney. Of course, because we never managed to get another goalscorer to compliment Cosgrove we ended up going long too often, and in games we didn't need to, but I also think that that was vastly overstated by some fans, who exclusively link big lad with big punt even though we still played some nice stuff. If we'd been able to mix up our style a bit, I think Cosgrove would have been an asset for a bit longer. He then had a barren spell, got injured, and in that time - coinciding with Cormack having greater influence - McInnes moved to the "entertaining" 3-4-3, with Hedges, Watkins and Wright. Cosgrove was unable to fit into that and became a bit of a figure of scorn (maybe even hate) among fans, that I don't think I've seen before for a striker that was so prolific. 

[Slim]

"The more I practice, the luckier I get" - Sam Cosgrove (possibly)

I remember the feedback being he was very raw but also very coachable, trained hard, listened, etc.

That'll be the difference between him and your Laurent D'Jaffos.

Seems to have suffered a bit after being scouted and signed as a winger by Birmingham but looks like he's carved out a decent enough career as a role player off the bench to win/hold up the ball in the final third at a fairly decent level.

Not too dissimilar to Josh Magennis I suppose, although he seemed to kick on and improve more after leaving us.

[redordead]

12 hours ago, tom_widdows said:

The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games?

Yes 

For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games

Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult

 

Aye Cosgrove turned into a player after a while. I'd have him back. As shown above as effective as miovski in an equally poor side at the time.

I've always took stick for my miovski stance but his conversation rate shots to goals is like 13% across his career.  Is that one in eight chances. If the rumours are true that the Glasgow teams are interested it wouldn't worry me. 

I'd imagine dessers ratios are better and look at the stick he took.

Edited Wednesday at 11:16 by redordead

[OrlandoDon]

30 minutes ago, redordead said:

Aye Cosgrove turned into a player after a while. I'd have him back. As shown above as effective as miovski in an equally poor side at the time.

I've always took stick for my miovski stance but his conversation rate shots to goals is like 13% across his career.  Is that one in eight chances. If the rumours are true that the Glasgow teams are interested it wouldn't worry me. 

I'd imagine dessers ratios are better and look at the stick he took.

Careful. That’s like saying Willie miller was an overrated central defender and ash Taylor was clearly better.

miovski is legit. Imagine what he’d do for Celtic with the quality of players around him, rangers to a lesser extent. While I don’t pay much attention to dressers, he missed a fair few chances, maybe he scores 25 and bojan scores 40…

[tlg1903]

On 06/07/2025 at 16:41, Panda said:

I think you need to lighten up.

Posting on a football forum that someone is 'one of the most technically gifted player we have signed since the early 90s' is a big statement to make, and is going to have people replying suggesting you're a bit OTT this early on, which I actually think I did very lightly.

 

I need to lighten up?  Calm down Mr "I would debate more, but after your comment below I won't bother.".   Incidently the comment that made you say that was said tongue in cheek.  I appreciate it can be easy to misinterpret how something is meant from text only but maybe stop being so sensitive on a football forum where the default setting for most is to take the piss at every opportunity. 

As for big statement to make?  Not really.  As has been proven by the comments that have followed me saying that in the time since we have had a handful of players who you could call technically gifted. Anyone coming in with a high level of technical ability is going to fall into the afore mentioned category. 

[redordead]

19 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Careful. That’s like saying Willie miller was an overrated central defender and ash Taylor was clearly better.

miovski is legit. Imagine what he’d do for Celtic with the quality of players around him, rangers to a lesser extent. While I don’t pay much attention to dressers, he missed a fair few chances, maybe he scores 25 and bojan scores 40…

Haha, I think willies trophy haul makes for easy distinction

[Panda]

On 09/07/2025 at 12:51, tlg1903 said:

I need to lighten up?  Calm down Mr "I would debate more, but after your comment below I won't bother.".   Incidently the comment that made you say that was said tongue in cheek.  I appreciate it can be easy to misinterpret how something is meant from text only but maybe stop being so sensitive on a football forum where the default setting for most is to take the piss at every opportunity. 

You got angry, then got personal, and have followed it up with "maybe stop being so sensitive on a football forum".

Yep, could not agree more pal...

On 09/07/2025 at 12:51, tlg1903 said:

 

As for big statement to make?  Not really.  

You're right, I totally underplayed it. 

It was actually a wild statement to make.

[manc_don]

Can we draw a line under that chapter please guys? Cheers

Anyway, what positions are still needing to be filled, no.9 (ideally) and a LB? I’m still expecting a few more departures but surprised one or two haven’t gone already.

[RicoS321]

28 minutes ago, manc_don said:

Can we draw a line under that chapter please guys? Cheers

Anyway, what positions are still needing to be filled, no.9 (ideally) and a LB? I’m still expecting a few more departures but surprised one or two haven’t gone already.

We got a left back didn't we? 

We definitely need a box to box midfielder. The games where Shinnie did the most work were the games we were most successful in I'd say. Clarkson looks to be more and more likely to put in a shift and cover some serious yards, but we need the legs of Shinnie two years ago, or Ramadani, to give us that extra lift in the middle of the park. A striker is imperative. Once again, though, we need to see some faces out the door too. Vinnie, Ambrose, Rubi, Jensen R, maybe even Duncan. Make space for some of the new duds that come from a summer of signings!

[DantheDon]

I think Duncan is safe to stay for this season. He’s a home grown player so helps our European quota, whether he is good enough to get a new deal I’m not sure but he has this season to try and prove it.

The rest I agree we need to move on. A number 9 would be great but hard to find. I’m assuming a good bit of our business is going to be done late in the window now. 

[tlg1903]

12 hours ago, Panda said:

You got angry, then got personal, and have followed it up with "maybe stop being so sensitive on a football forum".

Yep, could not agree more pal...

You're right, I totally underplayed it. 

It was actually a wild statement to make.

OK, see what you're doing here is projection. I didn't get angry, you did.  I didn't get personal either, I called you out for misrepresenting what I said, lightly teased you to which you spat the fucking dummy like a wee bairn.   Stop making shit up, that's what started all this in the first place!

[OrlandoDon]

4 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

We got a left back didn't we? 

We definitely need a box to box midfielder. The games where Shinnie did the most work were the games we were most successful in I'd say. Clarkson looks to be more and more likely to put in a shift and cover some serious yards, but we need the legs of Shinnie two years ago, or Ramadani, to give us that extra lift in the middle of the park. A striker is imperative. Once again, though, we need to see some faces out the door too. Vinnie, Ambrose, Rubi, Jensen R, maybe even Duncan. Make space for some of the new duds that come from a summer of signings!

I just don’t see another central midfielder coming in, with shinnie sivert Clarkson polvara palaversa gueye kjarten and adil, I think we are covered, unless one or two move on. With the exception of maybe kjarten, all expect to play.
The only hole is another 9. Even with wingers, we do have Duncan and vinnie, and I expect Duncan to stay simply for being Scottish/home grown.

[tlg1903]

5 hours ago, manc_don said:

Can we draw a line under that chapter please guys? Cheers

Anyway, what positions are still needing to be filled, no.9 (ideally) and a LB? I’m still expecting a few more departures but surprised one or two haven’t gone already.

Apologies Manc, just saw this. 

I would agree with that, every other position looks to be well stocked. 

 

[OrlandoDon]

I’ll add to my own comment about center mid. I’m assuming we play with a 6, 8, and 10 positions, and I do expect big things from Abdul at 10. I also expect a step up from palaversa after a full summer and preseason and he’s settled. Plus, wonder if we finally get a step up from a fit and full preseason we polvara. 

Im happy with what we have, but if one leaves I’m not too disappointed as none have locked in a starting role. Thing we have good competition in there. 
May the back of say punt Richard Jensen and keep the rest. Milne ruby and molloy are all good over in the middle plus devlin Jensen and molloy can all cover left back assuming the new signing is the started. 
being greedy you could add a 4th winger but I’d say that’s Duncan, Vinny can leave. 
you can add Boyd to center/attacking mid, again a needed Scot, but for his development I think he’d benefit from minutes out on loan.
up top I think Sokler and the big Aussie are ok, we need the main 9. Ambrose goes out on loan or sold, add an existing young scot as the 4th option/quota. Think we could also see milanovic at 10 or 9 too.

Edited 20 hours ago by OrlandoDon

[OrlandoDon]

Highly unlikely/impossible, plus it’s the American sports influence in me where teams ‘own’ players, but what if we offered Motherwell £1.5M (using that since it was mentioned with Adil) plus polvara and Richard Jensen plus a 20% sell on for Lennon miller. I like polvara and think he’s solid but he sets them up with a replacement, and I just  don’t know where he fits with us. 
surely the Lewis Ferguson comparison is a good thing to sell them on? I don’t think £4m for a player in Scotland with 12 months left on a contract is realistic, and this is a creative win-win offer.

Edited 20 hours ago by OrlandoDon

[Panda]

8 hours ago, manc_don said:

Can we draw a line under that chapter please guys? Cheers

Anyway, what positions are still needing to be filled, no.9 (ideally) and a LB? I’m still expecting a few more departures but surprised one or two haven’t gone already.

It's fine, I'm bored of him anyway.

Do we need a left-back? We have Gyamfi, and both Shinnie and Jensen can and have played there. 

2 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Highly unlikely/impossible, plus it’s the American sports influence in me where teams ‘own’ players, but what if we offered Motherwell £1.5M (using that since it was mentioned with Adil) plus polvara and Richard Jensen plus a 20% sell on for Lennon miller.

Firstly, that's a worse deal than what Udinese offered in January when they tested Motherwell with a £2.5m offer.

Secondly, if Como are interested in him, then the wages they'll offer Miller would far outweigh what we could. They have just spent £17m on Nicolas Kuhn.

Thirdly, on a similar note, could Motherwell afford the wages of Polvara and Jensen? And it'd be two players who haven't really proven themselves at Premiership level so what's in it for Motherwell - they lose their best player for only £1.5m, and get two players on high wages who might only be average at best for them.