tom_widdows Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago (edited) The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games? Yes For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult Edited 13 hours ago by tom_widdows 1 Quote
OrlandoDon Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 42 minutes ago, tom_widdows said: The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games? Yes For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult He had two excellent seasons with us, scored some quality goals, while coinciding with some absolutely god awful football. We became route one long ball, and I hated how we played. Read somewhere cosgrove got injured and isn’t the same player now, not sure how accurate. Quote
Panda Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Talking of Sam Cosgrove, he was one of a number of well kent faces taking part in this. It actually reads like a list of Derek McInnes transfer targets. As it goes, Cosgrove got the opening goal. Quote
OrlandoDon Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago (edited) What was the deal with Jayden Shockley, he only lasted a season with us? Though he was a decent target man, seem to remember a lovely goal v Patrick thistle. I’m thinking he was black balled for being too physical?? Replaced him with his twin cosgrove. Edited 12 hours ago by OrlandoDon Quote
Panda Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said: What was the deal with Jayden Shockley, he only lasted a season with us? Though he was a decent target man, seem to remember a lovely goal v Patrick thistle. Replaced him with his twin cosgrove. Think he asked to leave because he wanted to play more regularly. We had signed Nicky Maynard, Stevie May and Greg Stewart, while Rooney was still first choice. By all accounts Stockley had a decent enough scoring record after leaving Aberdeen. Quote
OrlandoDon Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Panda said: Think he asked to leave because he wanted to play more regularly. We had signed Nicky Maynard, Stevie May and Greg Stewart, while Rooney was still first choice. By all accounts Stockley had a decent enough scoring record after leaving Aberdeen. Cheers. I didn’t think stockley or cosgrove were bad, especially cosgrove who scored a bunch. Although I do think that was the end for Mcinnes since our style of play went to shit and we were a horrible watch as I said. Quote
Reekie_Red Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago Cosgrove was an odd one. He scored a fair amount of goals, but his first (abd second and third) touch was awful. For some reason the rub of the green seemed to favour him as often as it goes against someone like Laurent D'Jaffo: both equally average players. Cosgrove had the build, stature and touch of a Sunday League centreback / sweeper - but so much seemed to fall in his favour Quote
DantheDon Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago From what I remember Cosgrove had good enough positioning. To our detriment the team was set up around providing him service which wasn’t great. With his physical attributes he was difficult enough to handle and managed a decent return but was a bit of a poacher really. It was a failure of our scouting system that ultimately ended McInnes tenure. Why I still regard him as a good coach, Cosgrove is probably the best example of him getting the maximum from a player with limited ability. Quote
RicoS321 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, DantheDon said: From what I remember Cosgrove had good enough positioning. To our detriment the team was set up around providing him service which wasn’t great. With his physical attributes he was difficult enough to handle and managed a decent return but was a bit of a poacher really. It was a failure of our scouting system that ultimately ended McInnes tenure. Why I still regard him as a good coach, Cosgrove is probably the best example of him getting the maximum from a player with limited ability. Yep, that seems fair. McInnes had hit a huge dilemma as our manager. He'd mastered a formation and style that could beat anyone in the league outside the scum (one, at the time), but we couldn't lay a glove on the Tims or a particular level of European opponent. In Rooney, we had a prolific striker who was worse than useless against either. We didn't have the budget or scouting network (Milne controlled the former, McInnes the latter) to get a striker that could unlock that next level, at least in part. McInnes' answer was a big lad, which failed in Stockley, but Cosgrove was a success. He used his body well, and held the ball up well, and got into great positions as a poacher. He allowed us to play further up the park against the likes of the Tims and gave us something different (and possibly even better) than Rooney. Of course, because we never managed to get another goalscorer to compliment Cosgrove we ended up going long too often, and in games we didn't need to, but I also think that that was vastly overstated by some fans, who exclusively link big lad with big punt even though we still played some nice stuff. If we'd been able to mix up our style a bit, I think Cosgrove would have been an asset for a bit longer. He then had a barren spell, got injured, and in that time - coinciding with Cormack having greater influence - McInnes moved to the "entertaining" 3-4-3, with Hedges, Watkins and Wright. Cosgrove was unable to fit into that and became a bit of a figure of scorn (maybe even hate) among fans, that I don't think I've seen before for a striker that was so prolific. Quote
Slim Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago "The more I practice, the luckier I get" - Sam Cosgrove (possibly) I remember the feedback being he was very raw but also very coachable, trained hard, listened, etc. That'll be the difference between him and your Laurent D'Jaffos. Seems to have suffered a bit after being scouted and signed as a winger by Birmingham but looks like he's carved out a decent enough career as a role player off the bench to win/hold up the ball in the final third at a fairly decent level. Not too dissimilar to Josh Magennis I suppose, although he seemed to kick on and improve more after leaving us. Quote
redordead Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 12 hours ago, tom_widdows said: The same Sam Cosgrove who scored 47 goals in 103 games? Yes For comparison Miovski scored 44 goals on 98games Statistics miniskirts etc but a few people with short memories here and lumping him in with Main, Hornby etc is an insult Aye Cosgrove turned into a player after a while. I'd have him back. As shown above as effective as miovski in an equally poor side at the time. I've always took stick for my miovski stance but his conversation rate shots to goals is like 13% across his career. Is that one in eight chances. If the rumours are true that the Glasgow teams are interested it wouldn't worry me. I'd imagine dessers ratios are better and look at the stick he took. Edited 1 hour ago by redordead Quote
OrlandoDon Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, redordead said: Aye Cosgrove turned into a player after a while. I'd have him back. As shown above as effective as miovski in an equally poor side at the time. I've always took stick for my miovski stance but his conversation rate shots to goals is like 13% across his career. Is that one in eight chances. If the rumours are true that the Glasgow teams are interested it wouldn't worry me. I'd imagine dessers ratios are better and look at the stick he took. Careful. That’s like saying Willie miller was an overrated central defender and ash Taylor was clearly better. miovski is legit. Imagine what he’d do for Celtic with the quality of players around him, rangers to a lesser extent. While I don’t pay much attention to dressers, he missed a fair few chances, maybe he scores 25 and bojan scores 40… Quote
tlg1903 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago On 06/07/2025 at 16:41, Panda said: I think you need to lighten up. Posting on a football forum that someone is 'one of the most technically gifted player we have signed since the early 90s' is a big statement to make, and is going to have people replying suggesting you're a bit OTT this early on, which I actually think I did very lightly. I need to lighten up? Calm down Mr "I would debate more, but after your comment below I won't bother.". Incidently the comment that made you say that was said tongue in cheek. I appreciate it can be easy to misinterpret how something is meant from text only but maybe stop being so sensitive on a football forum where the default setting for most is to take the piss at every opportunity. As for big statement to make? Not really. As has been proven by the comments that have followed me saying that in the time since we have had a handful of players who you could call technically gifted. Anyone coming in with a high level of technical ability is going to fall into the afore mentioned category. Quote
redordead Posted 53 minutes ago Report Posted 53 minutes ago 19 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said: Careful. That’s like saying Willie miller was an overrated central defender and ash Taylor was clearly better. miovski is legit. Imagine what he’d do for Celtic with the quality of players around him, rangers to a lesser extent. While I don’t pay much attention to dressers, he missed a fair few chances, maybe he scores 25 and bojan scores 40… Haha, I think willies trophy haul makes for easy distinction Quote
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