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I wonder if this appointment pushes Stephen Robinson up the list on the next manager front?

Happy to be proven wrong but I would be staggered if Wilder would come up here. Of late he has managed in the EPL and with Middlesbrough in the Championship and in financial terms I cannot imagine he'd be in our stratosphere. Middlesbrough have regularly bought players for £2M-£3M, they must have been paying Wilder something like £20,000-£30,000 a week? They get crowds of 25,000 down there. Most of the time we are signing players from leagues one and two on frees. He could easily get another gig in the English Championship so with the best will in the world, what would be his motivation for being interested? For me it goes back to being realistic with our targets. A lot of our fans (and I also think our chairman thinks the same) have wild ideas about us being some sleeping giant club but we're not. Our average attendances are fifth in the country by some distance. I just cannot see why someone like Wilder, Hughton, Bruce or Solskjaer would be remotely interested but time will tell I suppose.

Growing up there was something iconic about Billy Thomson in that green goalie top. He was the only keeper I can remember that used to wear trousers. A nostalgic throw back to when it seemed like players spent most of their career with one club. I know he was with St Mirren but for me, as a bairn, I just picture him as being the Dundee United goalie in the era where we had Jim Leighton, Rangers had Chris Woods, Hearts had Henry Smith and Pat Bonner at Celtic.

Billy Thomson, ex-utd goalie. Aged 64.

An intriguing comment. What difference could it possibly make to have a manager with "no links to the old firm". What even does that mean and what is the qualifying criteria? Is that someone who has managed the old firm, played for them or just has a blue or green scarf in the cupboard at home? Ferguson, Aitken and McInnes had all been old firm players and managed to win us silverware. Jimmy Calderwood and Alex McLeish were self confessed Rangers fans but both did not bad for us. Barry Robson has been with both sides of the OF, but I see you are proposing him as assistant manager . Johnny Hayes played for Celtic, Ross McCrorie for Rangers, should we sell them? Graeme Shinnie's brother was with Rangers at one point, does that qualify? Presumably he should be nowhere near the captaincy of Aberdeen for that reason. The old firm are not even our present day rivals. We have aspirations to be the third best team in Scotland, our rivals for that position are Hibs and Hearts.

Is Yorkie bringing Jordan up with him? Sure she would pick up the teuchter dialect pretty quickly. The last couple of managerial appointments have been a fair couple of boobs On a serious note, how does this actually make it into the papers, it just makes the deluded amongst our support even worse. I am surprised I have not heard anyone suggest Fergie as director of football with his loon as manager.

The club is a joke at the moment. Realistically we could be fielding a team for the rest of the season where our goalie is on loan, 3 of the back 4 are on loan, a loanee in central midfield and a temporary manager. Ironically it is the sort of thing you normally hear about a wee team after they have caused a massive cup upset. They’ll be pulling folk out of the main stand shortly and asking them if they can be on the subs bench. We’ve gone from having a supposedly excellent scouting system where we are covering the whole football world extensively with great data analysis to, it seems, a system where we are signing literally, anyone. What is going on?

In reality Panda, 99% of football managers leave their jobs acrimoniously as they usually end up getting the sack eventually. I have seen this "he's a dinosaur" thing trotted out so many times before, it's a joke. People over analyse things. Football is the same game it was 50 years ago, the things surrounding it have changed and the finances unquestionably, the rest not so much. Going by reports today, it's unlikely Lennon is in the frame but his CV is on another level to anyone else being talked about. Last time I checked our club had won two trophies in over 30 years, Lennon has won 12 as a manager and 13 as a player in the same time. I don't understand why anyone would want Danny Cowley or Chris Wilder over that. It's like comparing Joe Miller and Roberto Baggio. Don't get me wrong, I like Barry Robson and some day he might be a good manager but our club is too big for on the job training. We're not Inverurie Locos or Brora Rangers where the ex-player might be given a crack at the top job to see how he gets on. If the Stephen Glass saga told us anything it was that this job is far too big to be anyone's first managerial role. It's true that there is always a bit of luck involved Rico but you have to take as much of that out of the equation as possible and give yourself the best chance of getting the right bloke first time. We have wasted two seasons by making two poor appointments. Just minimise the risk and go with someone tried and tested. This is not an industry where you normally advertise a job and you go through dozens of CVs. Cormack, Milne, Gunn, whoever is involved in appointing the new man have a decent enough knowledge of the managers out there, or other chairman certainly do. How long did it take for Rangers to appoint Beale after Gerrard left or Everton to appoint Dyche after Lampard had been punted. It's really not a process that needs to take weeks and months. Nobody is working their notice at their old job until they take up a new post like in other walks of life.

That's just a bizarre viewpoint that I cannot get my head around and from what I am hearing/reading you are not the only one suggesting it Panda. Why would you put a total novice in most important job at the club and just see what happens? It would not happen in any other walk of life. People on here scoff at the idea of appointing people who have actually won trophies like a Tommy Wright, John Hughes, Callum Davidson yet they would be happy to chuck in someone who has never been a manager before and if he does ok for half a dozen games just give him the job. I mean, really?

There is an incredible lack of foresight by the board on this, stretching right back to when McInnes was fired in March 2021. Anyone with half a brain could see that the McInnes era was coming to a close and suspected that Cormack wanted his own man in. In the lead up to that surely you would have thought the board would have earmarked who they wanted instead of having to go through the shit show that was the Glass interview process. It took a month and a half to get Glass in the door for his first game therefore we effectively wrote off the Scottish cup that season and the end of the league campaign. The same has happened again. It must have been pretty clear a month ago that Goodwin was going to be fired at some stage so why are we now content to wait months to appoint a replacement? Again, they could have identified who they wanted weeks ago and assuming it is someone unemployed, just get the guy in place. We are writing off the season half way through just due to a lack of planning. Fans who have paid hundreds for a season ticket are going to watch a team and manager who are not really bothered for the rest of the season. It's poor. Of the names on the bookies list, I'd break the bank to convince Lennon to come. He's the only one proven himself to win stuff in this league and has the broad shoulders to deal with the crap that comes with the job. He would command a bit of respect from all at the club for what he has done in the game which in my view Glass and Goodwin did not. He also tries to play an entertaining style and also, it would never be dull.

Harry Souttar off to Leicester for £15M The easiest £3M Dundee United will ever make.

sancho_panza, we were playing Darvel not AC Milan. It was not about a game plan on Monday it was 100% about attitude. It was a game that the manager should have been able to just leave the players to get on with it without even needing a team talk. No exaggeration to say that our reserve team should be beating Darvel, they are part time players training a couple of times a week. A leader on the pitch would have made a massive difference. Falkirk will thrash them in the next round.

Glass was hopeless and should have been sacked earlier than he was. It was clear very early on he was nowhere near good enough to manage Aberdeen. We are not going to be a good team just by signing a couple of defenders. Watch back the game from Monday night. The attitude was wrong. No one fancied it. No fight. No desire. No professional pride. We'd just been beaten 5-0 by Hearts so you would think they would have gone out with a real point to prove. There were a few times early on that our players basically pulled out of proper tackles. Nobody looked bothered they were getting embarrassed by part time players. There are no leaders. I said it after the Rangers defeat at Ibrox and it was the case again in the home defeat a couple of weeks ago and the last couple of games, the team is mentally weak and has no bottle. Can you imagine Scott Brown accepting defeat so easily if he had been there on Monday night? He would have been kicking players up in the air in the first 5 minutes. The Stewart situation epitomises this what this team is all about and I actually feel sorry for the lad. I do wonder if there is a better player in there and things might have turned out differently if he had not been burdened by the stupid decision to make him team captain.

This interim manager stuff baffles me. If Robson is good enough to become the next Aberdeen manager then give him the job. If he is deemed not good enough then why would you give him the job for a while? No point sacking the current manager you think is not good enough just to replace him with another that is not good enough??? Just decide who you want and give him the job now. We need someone who knows the Scottish game, not someone who needs on the job training. We already have a lot of players with little experience of this league. Get in an experienced man who has been around the block and is not going to be fazed by the size of the club and expectation level.

It's ok looking good at Hampden but how are these fancy foreigners gonna cope on a freezin' January night in Darvel eh?

11 defeats in 22 league games is a horrendous record. I know new players take time to bed in but I just don't think it is working for Goodwin. His tenure has all been a bit of a pantomime with a lot of naivety shown from Considine leaving, the Porteous incident, whatever has gone on with Ramirez and his statement at the start about third being the minimum requirement. Anthony Stewart's comment about Morelos the other day just put the icing on the cake. The job at times seems too big for him and I think he massively underestimated how big a club he was coming too especially the fact that everything a Dons manager says gets scrutinised in a way that he has not had in his previous clubs.

Apart from being utterly shite at Cardiff and Man Utd, what you seein in Solskjaer? At least Goodwin showed promise of maybe becoming a good manager whilst at his previous clubs but Solskjaer? or are you just going on the premise of he is foreign so he will be superb or R U just taking the piss by suggesting him?

Not saying you are necessarily wrong Rico, but none of us know what Steven Gunn does on a day to day basis, how good he is at what he does and how well he is doing compared to others in the same field.

It scares me how much this is starting to mirror previous regimes with round pegs in square holes which is one of my biggest gripes with managers. Our starting line up last night had a winger at right back when we signed a recognised right back in the summer. Johnny Hayes, a left winger, playing on the right when we seemed to have about a million wingers a few months ago so just play him in his proper position. Duk should be playing centrally. McCrorie just chucked in another role because he is seemingly a utility man who never gets asked to play the same role two weeks in a row. Besuijen we were told was some kind of unpolished diamond who would make us millions yet he starts on the bench again. Coulson is meant to be a left back but is never in position hence the Hearts goals. Clarkson and Scales aside, who are not our players, are any of the summer signings actually better than what we had last season? I'm not sure. ................and what's the deal with Connor Barron? Why is he warming the bench? In conclusion, to me a 5-0 defeat by Hearts is a P45 job.

I'm not sure what is going on with refereeing at the moment and I am not one of those that is into conspiracy theories about the old firm getting all of the breaks. The refs just seem to be pleasing themselves at the moment and the whole VAR thing has made things ten times worse. As an example, Kent pulled someone back by the shirt yesterday, the ref blew for a free kick but chose not to book him which is just plain wrong. The offside thing is on its arse as well. Much though I loved our goal yesterday, it's an absolute farce how the defenders can hold a line to play someone offside yet another player steams through the middle and scores. Similar to Man Utd's winning goal on Saturday. If that's going to happen you might as well just scrap offsides totally because there's no point in a defender ever trying to play someone offside. The game is becoming a joke. We did well yesterday though. I don't think we are ever going to outplay Rangers for the entirety because they have better players but we stuck in and were unlucky not to equalise in the end. Scales looks a right good defender. Shinnie, great signing. Still not overly convinced on the goalie. Are we any better than last season? Jury still out. Will be a hard game against Hearts after ET yesterday.

Heard a rumour we were trying to get Ryan Jack back. I'm sure he would be warmly welcomed.

£10 to watch Buckie on a stream! I thought Sky were ripping me off but I’ve changed my mind. Edit: that should really be on the totally deluded cunts thread

I do love this goal

Roberto Martinez “on the brink” of becoming Portugal manager. I don’t need to add any more.

Does anyone know if you can watch our games live in the UK simply by using a VPN if you subscribe to Red TV? And, do you need to use a non-UK address when you subscribe?