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Heard this being discussed on a podcast today so I'll throw it out there and wait for the inevitable bile and hatred that comes after........... If Rangers win the Europa League, does it eclipse Celtic's 1967 win and how do those compare to the Dons in 1983? Just to add a bit to that, Celtic faced the following opposition in 1967, playing 9 games: First round - Zurich (Switzerland), aggregate 5-0 Second round - Nantes (France), aggregate 6-2 Quarters - Vojvodina (Yugoslavia), aggregate 2-1 Semis - Dukla Prague (Czechoslovakia), aggregate 3-1 Final - Inter Milan (Italy) 2-1 Rangers faced the following teams this year playing 17 games: Playoff - Alashkert (Armenia), aggregate 1-0 Group - Lyon (France) (1-1 and 2-0 loss) Group - Sparta Prague (Czech) (1-0 loss and 2-0 win) Group - Brondby (Denmark) (1-1 and 2-0 win) Play off - Dortmund (Germany), aggregate 6-4 Round of 16 - Red Star Belgrade (Serbia), aggregate 3-2 Quarters - Braga (Portugal), aggregate 3-2 Semis - Leipzig (Germany), aggregate 3-2 Final - Frankfurt (Germany) In 1983 we played 11 games facing: First round - Sion (Switzerland), aggregate 11-1 Second round - Dinamo Tirana (Albania), aggregate 1-0 Third round - Lech Poznan (Poland), aggregate 3-0 Quarters - Bayern Munich (West Germany), aggregate 3-2 Semis - Waterschei (Belgium), aggregate 5-2 Final - Real Madrid (Spain) 2-1

Either "We think he is too shite for us" or "The boy's a dick and he's not getting near my first team squad"

So Dundee give themselves a lifeline. They need to win away at Livi on Sunday and hope St Johnstone lose at home to us and away to Hibs, they also need to overturn a five goal difference which is not impossible over three games. Certainly makes it interesting.

Just read this....I mean has the world lost its sense of humour or something? Are you not allowed to take the piss out of anything any more? And does this mean our Gorgie/Glasgow/Dundee slums song must go? Maybe we can't even sing about ourselves being sheep shaggers either in case someone gets offended. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61376475

Just read that he was part of a failed bid to buy Chelsea. Begs the question, is he actually allowed to do that? In the unlikely event of us ever facing them in Europe, he would have a foot in both camps? Just seems wrong that you could be involved in running two clubs at the same time.

Don’t disagree at all there Slim but there is absolutely zero chance Ramsay will ever become Liverpool’s first choice right back while Trent is there. Alexander-Arnold is not just any old full back, the guy is on a totally different level and could probably fetch £100M+ on the transfer market. Am guessing he would easily be in the top 10 players in the EPL in most peoples eyes. I’m not knocking Ramsay’s ability nor his potential but it is easy to see things through rose tinted glasses when looking at one of your own teams players. Comparing with McKenna for example, he was already an international before moving to England, even captaining Scotland on one occasion I think and he “only” got a move to the Championship. Ramsay has not even made the Scotland squad yet, never mind the team. I like player but I’m not totally getting the hype to be honest. Too many people looking at the data and too few looking at what he is actually doing on the pitch. The Dons are stoking the fire because they want a high fee for him, which is only natural of course.

If these rumours are true, it is an interesting debate as to whether Ramsay should go to Anfield and become Trent's understudy. TAA has played 41 times this season, been injured/corona for 4 and been left out of 11 other games. If you are Ramsay, would you rather stay at the Dons, play 40 games a season and potentially push your way into the Scotland squad? Remember the World Cup is in December so if he pulls his finger out he could potentially be there. or................take the coin, leave for Anfield and play 15 games next season in the early rounds of their cups and the meaningless games at the end of the Champions League group stages. I think he would more than likely up being loaned out the following season and sold on to Burnley or Swansea a couple of years down the line. Very tough to turn down Liverpool if the chance came along though.

Celtic making a decent fist of trying to bottle it big time

I wonder about the coaching in respect of Bates and Gallagher. Both of these lads have played a few times for Scotland and Gallagher in particular looked a real solid defender for the national team in the Euro qualification. You don’t just fluke your way into the national team, they both played their way in and have not suddenly become bad players. Not suggesting they are world beaters but a back line of those two plus Lewis, Ramsay and A N other should be well capable of keeping clean sheets against St Mirren, Ross County and the other shitey teams in our league. Something sadly amiss with the tactics and coaching both with the Glass regime and the start of the Goodwin era.

One clean sheet in the last 18 games (Edinburgh City in the cup) so a 1-0 win highly unlikely but let's hope so

It’s a good point Rico. Goodwin has been so gung ho in his approach in an attempt to stamp his mark on the club that you almost feel his position will be getting questioned by some fans shortly which is ridiculous for the short time he has been in charge. We really just need to survive this season and hit the reset button as it were. The odds of St Johnstone getting out of that play off spot are still against them but it’s not impossible.

St Johnstone just equalised

Got to get younger players in the door. Someone said the other day we have practically the oldest squad in the league. This season we have recruited far too many players who are either past their peak or pushing 30 and have never reached a peak in the first place. We need to get back to bringing in hungry players in their early 20s like we did with McLean, Christie and the like, guys who are striving to move up the ladder.

Cormack is a clown. Said before Milne left that you have to be careful what you wish for. I didn't get the hatred for Milne at all, he ran the club properly and the gripe I heard from most people was that he did not put enough money into the club, which was entirely his own prerogative. Yes, he might have made a few bad decisions along the way which all chairman do but I genuinely believe he did what he thought was in the best interests of the club. Now we have an owner who is more interested in courting his own PR that getting on with the day job. He seems to be more concerned with how many good comments he can get on twitter than anything else. There are press leaks all over the place and he has set the club back several years with the stupid way he got rid of McInnes. Nothing that has followed since makes me think next season will be any better.

That would be a terrible move for Ramsay in my opinion. He wouldn't have a hope in hell of breaking through into that team and could end up lost to the game. A bit like when Danny Wilson signed for them from Rangers, it did more harm to his career by moving. Patterson has shown how difficult it is to get a game in the premier league with Everton. I hope for his sake and ours that he moves to somewhere like McKenna did at Notts Forest first then on to bigger and better things. It would likely make it much more lucrative for us as well, then he could move on to Man Utd for £40M 18 months later!

Where you getting that from BigAl, is there a rumour doing the rounds? Their right back looks locked in for the next 10-15 years, probably the hardest position to get into in that team. And he’s a scouser so unlikely to want away.

What a brutal game this is. After 10 years in charge Dyche gets booted out the minute things go a little bit pear shaped. You would have thought he would have at least earned a crack at trying to get them out of the bottom three with all he has done for that club. Unless there has been a huge bust up behind the scenes then it is poor stuff from Burnley. Sad thing is, Dyche was being touted for bigger jobs in the last few years and people have such short memories that the opportunity to manage a bigger team may have now passed him by. More likely that he will turn up at a mid Championship team next season.

Sorry to see Considine go. We have lost so much invaluable experience these last 12 months with Logan, McGinn, Brown and Considine going. On wee toon red's comment above - has anyone actually come out and said any of these players are not getting new contracts (Considine aside) or is everyone getting a little bit excited about rumours? Also, where is the idea that Ramirez and Ferguson will be sold coming from, haven't heard anyone at the club say that?

………if we lose and St Johnstone win

Opta could be an option since Dave likes his data

I am all for the hosts not having to qualify because a host nation not being in their own tournament would be a bit crap but why on earth are Qatar a top seed, makes a mockery of the whole draw. Also increases the possibility of one of the top nations going out early with Holland and Germany both being in pot 2 when one of them could/should be in pot 1.

Watched #CancelKarenDunbar last night. Oh my god, almost impossible to make comedy now without offending someone it seems. Some folk really need to lighten up and see comedy for what it is.

Just getting the Austria scarf out ready for tonight. Would not want us to be facing Bale, Ramsey and co in Cardiff if we make it to the play off final.

One game between 6th March and 1st April.

Slightly odd thing to say maybe but apart from his goals he gives very little to the team. Doesn't hold the ball up particularly well, no great pace, not really a physical presence yet without his goals we would be in real trouble. I tend to think if you are playing up front on your own you need to put yourself about a bit, like thon thug (the budget Bergkamp) that plays for Motherwell.