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Strange views dudes. The guy has scored 29 goals in 44 games but let's not sign him in case he might not score any next season? Was it not just a couple of seasons ago that most of our support were wanking off over Louis Moult, who at the same club managed 15 goals in his very best season? The Curtain Main and JET comparisons are very unfair on the lad, it's like comparing Zander Diamond to Willie Miller.

Did they refuse to take part in anything at Parkhead today? I know it’s an end of season game but has anyone seen these kind of stats in any game, anywhere before? Zero shots…..holy fuck.

Nah, don't agree with that DantheDon. Those teams at the top end of the Championship are spending millions on players and operating at a totally different level to us. The clubs relegated from the english premier get about £30M for a couple of seasons after dropping down. They are not going to be targeting the same players as the Dons. I suspect they will also pull in a fortune by selling the likes of Ward-Prowse.

Sadly no, it was more the Ole who got Cardiff relegated. Interim bosses are never a necessity, just a pantomime. If Cormack had been a bit more pro-active with his decision making, he could easily have had a full time boss in a few days after Goodwin had departed. The truth is, we have no idea whether Robson is a competent boss, that is exactly the problem. We've appointed a manager who has managed at the top level for 10 games. Let's be honest, if we had been humped 5-0 by Rangers last week, the fans would have wanted someone else.

I think you're right and good luck to him. He's a local boy, an honest type and one of those you just want to succeed. I mentioned months back that I hate interim appointments and don't see what they bring to the party. By giving the job to Robson on an interim basis, all we did was back ourselves into a corner. He was nowhere near the top of anyone's wanted list and I cannot recall anyone on here actually suggesting we give him the job on a full time basis after Goodwin was sacked. Now we have given a rookie manager a two year contract, trusting him with (I'm guessing) maybe a couple of million in the summer to recruit. If we get a couple of hidings before the season is out, lose a couple of big players in the summer and have a poor start to the season, we'll be back to square one. There are striking similarities here to what happened at Man Utd with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, again the club being backed into a corner due to a good run during a period where an interim manager was in charge. One thing I hope fans stop chuntering on about is the need to play entertaining football. We've just won a few on the bounce and it's the first thing people start on about. Was it entertaining being humped by Darvel or Hibs? If the last year has taught us fans anything it should be that winning football is what fans want. I hope the days of our centre halves and goalie trying to play like Beckenbauer are well and truly gone.

Don't get me wrong Rico, of course I care about the club being in a healthy financial position. I'm sure all of us do. My point was really that a lot of supporters seem to be getting more excited when a good player breaks though about how much we can sell him for rather than how good he can actually make the team. I think we are getting into a situation where we are signing players based on how much we can sell them for rather what they can bring to our team. I think that was the case with Hernandez and also get the feeling it is the case with Duk and Miovski. If you look at the side that played on Sunday, there were only 3 of those players here last season and realistically half of them might only be here next season. How are you supposed to build a team on that basis if players only stick around for 6-12 months at a time? Absolutely correct on that but Robson is never getting £2M to spend on a right back which is really the issue. Ramsay brought us in £4M and we spent 350K on Richardson to replace him.

It's a fair point and a very important one. The longer term strategy worries me. We've arguably never replaced McKenna, not replaced Ramsay, nor Hedges or Ferguson who were four big players in the team. I get that times have changed and we may need to sell the odd player to balance the books but we have taken in a shed load in the last few years from transfer fees. What about trying to actually build a team to challenge for trophies? I am fed up of fans suggesting how much we will make by selling this player or that. Duk has only hit form for six months and already some are contemplating how much we will sell him for in the summer. That kind of stuff may tickle those in the boardroom but not me as a fan. Offer them a new deal and get a bit of identity back. If McCrorie and Barron go, we literally have no Scots in our team except Duncan. We are meant to be a team representing the North East of Scotland, not a World Select.

34 in 77 games for Motherwell

Get Miovski offski and try to bring in the boy Van Veen from Motherwell. I'd also love us to make an approach for Dylan Smith at County.

I thought it was pretty harsh initially but seeing it again I don't think it is even debateable, the ref got it spot on. Shinnie took a chunk of the ball but to be honest the guy was lucky not to have a broken ankle. Imagine you were the County guy in this picture.

Just embarrassing. Davidson is surely a St Johnstone legend, they are not going to be relegated. Like Hearts they should have done the decent thing and parted ways after the season had finished. Disgraceful way to treat a manager who won you two cups just a couple of years ago. I’d love to see a rule introduced where you had to keep your manager for the whole season, it would stop all this shite. I see the boy Kennedy from Darvel has left. Maybe Dave has lined him up for the summer

Thought you were just spikin your usual shite

Don’t understand your point with this one Panda. Levein has been an international player and did a decent enough job in club management to get a crack at the national job. The Scotland job did not work out for him but in fairness Paul Daniels could not have got a trick out of the Scotland players at that time. His CV for being part of the “football monitoring board” is head and shoulders above anyone else currently on that board. He is much more qualified to make football decisions than Dave Cormack. Why is it disturbing you?

Yes, I get that and it was a wee bit tongue in cheek Slim. If their parents went on holiday to England and you happened to be born there during the fortnight then fair enough but if you were born and raised down there then I am not having you in our national shirt. If you cheer on England when they play then that is obviously also an instant disqualification. It feels almost the equivalent of cheating though, doesn't it. It's not club fitba, it's called international fitba for a reason. The best 11 players from Scotland against the best 11 players from A.N.other. It's like the Dons having half a team full of loan players, just plain wrong. You're either Scottish or not, whether your late grannie was Scottish should not be a decisive factor in my opinion. I'd also like a rule where the manager had to be from the country they are managing.

Nah, I'd rather we just did not pick them in the first place to be honest.

Cieran Slicker - born in England Dire Mebude - born in England, grew up in Peckham Jeremiah Mullen - born in England Lewis Fiorini - born in England I know what you are saying about playing for younger age groups but it means nothing. Call me a big cynic but if the Man City boys become proper players they will end up reverting to England.

I see the under 21s were beaten 3-0 by Wales. Makes interesting reading if you google some of the names on our teamsheet. Not sure I would class too many of them as being overly Scottish

Tam Courts got Kelty promoted and took Dundee United to fourth last season, knows the Scottish game and is available, affordable and would probably take the job. Is Vieira really any better a manager?

Why would we want someone who has just been sacked after not managing a win in 12 games?

What I was getting at is that none of the achievements above come anywhere close to what either accomplished in the past and privately none of the two would argue otherwise. McIlroy winning the Race to Dubai is nowhere close to winning a major. Likewise Mourinho winning the Europa Conference League which is a Mickey Mouse competition that no big club wants to be involved in.

Paul Hartley did once take a holiday to Dubai though and was sitting in the same row of the plane as Jose Mourinho. Apparently Rory McIlroy was staying at the same hotel

It's fascinating how the fitba fan views managerial failure and kind of writes off people as a result. Your comment above is spot on with how it works, Panda. In other sports, I see people win something big then maybe go through a bad spell. For example, Rory McIlroy last won a major golf event back in 2014 but golf fans still view him as possibly the best in the world because they remember what he has done in the past. He has failed in the last 30 attempts. Contrast that with Jose Mourinho, who has had a few poorer years by his standards and people claim he is a dinosaur who can't cut it anymore. This is the same manager who won the Champions League with Porto and Inter and has even more experience than back then yet a failure or two changes the perception totally.

To be fair to Strachan, though, he did not JUST appoint McGhee because he was his mate. It was going to do Strachan no favours at all if Dundee went down so he was hiring someone, rightly or wrongly, who he thought might keep them up. It’s similar to when Cormack hired Glass, again it happened to be the wrong appointment in hindsight but Cormack thought his pal would do a good job for us. In a lot of businesses people will bring in folk they are familiar with and can trust instead of risking it on an unknown quantity.

Where is everyone getting this idea from that Agnew is a good coach? Of late he has been Steve Bruce’s right hand man, who has been shite from Villa, thru Sheff Wed, Newcastle and West Brom.