swaddon Posted Sunday at 19:32 Report Posted Sunday at 19:32 I take it the three laddies at Kelty on loan from us wouldn't be allowed to play against us? Quote
Jute Posted Sunday at 19:36 Author Report Posted Sunday at 19:36 6 minutes ago, swaddon said: I take it the three laddies at Kelty on loan from us wouldn't be allowed to play against us? As far as I am aware they cannot play against parent club. 1 Quote
swaddon Posted Sunday at 19:38 Report Posted Sunday at 19:38 I believe the draw is at 8 pm. We're number 1, as holders. And as the first team alphabetically. Quote
Elgindon Posted Sunday at 19:46 Report Posted Sunday at 19:46 Ooft,at least its at home,nothing too exciting elsewhere,Huns getting a typical draw.Elgin v the Jags could be interesting... Quote
OrlandoDon Posted Sunday at 19:54 Report Posted Sunday at 19:54 Motherwell at home, could have been better but certainly could have been a lot worse. good opportunity to get revenge on the league cup loss. will they have their manager? Their forward? Welsh? what changes will we have by then?? Quote
Jute Posted Sunday at 19:57 Author Report Posted Sunday at 19:57 Just realise that means we play Motherwell twice in 7 days. ETA we play Celtic (H) on 4th, Motherwell (H) 7th or 8th, Arabs (A) 11th and Motherwell (A) on 14th. Quote
BigAl Posted Sunday at 20:21 Report Posted Sunday at 20:21 25 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said: Motherwell at home, could have been better but certainly could have been a lot worse. good opportunity to get revenge on the league cup loss. will they have their manager? Their forward? Welsh? what changes will we have by then?? Can't answer all your questions but they definitely don't have Welsh as he played for The Victims this evening Quote
Panda Posted Sunday at 20:43 Report Posted Sunday at 20:43 Not that I wanted a Premiership team, but it's a fairly decent draw in that if we win, we've got rid of half the top six, and there's going to be at least two non-top flight sides in the quarters. So, as long as you avoid the Old Firm, nothing is too daunting. Might be a great time to get Motherwell. We (hopefully) will have a new manager bounce and some new signings, while they will be without Welsh (cup tied even if he returns), Maswanishe (potentially leaves in January) and therefore could be rocking a little bit. Quote
Panda Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago Aberdeen v Motherwell a 7:30pm Saturday night kick-off, live on Premier Sports. Good kick-off for those in the city. Not so good for those travelling - including the Motherwell fans - as the SFA/Premier won't have bothered factoring in there being no trains going to the central belt after the game. Quote
Jute Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Panda said: Aberdeen v Motherwell a 7:30pm Saturday night kick-off, live on Premier Sports. Good kick-off for those in the city. Not so good for those travelling - including the Motherwell fans - as the SFA/Premier won't have bothered factoring in there being no trains going to the central belt after the game. There are no trains full stop due to Engineering works. Rail replacement buses from Dundee. Quote
swaddon Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago You mean they didn't think it through? Well, I'm astonished. Quote
STFU_Donny Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Stranraer potentially getting punted out of the cup due to fielding an ineligible player. Edited 13 hours ago by STFU_Donny Quote
TheDonbytheDee Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago Despite it being a shit kick off time for myself, the tickets have just been purchased. I kidded myself I wasn't going and then I thought back to last May and I was suddenly back in. 1 Quote
Jute Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, STFU_Donny said: Stranraer potentially getting punted out of the cup due to fielding an ineligible player. Apparently it was the keeper they got on loan from Hearts. Hamilton recalled the keeper they had been playing and he finished on Sunday. Keeper who Stranraer signed to replace him was cup tied so Stranraer had to get another one in but as they didn’t get him registered until after the time the tie was originally due to be played he was ineligible. Likely means that they will be kicked out the cup. Would have been fine if they registered him as an emergency loan but looks like they haven’t. Quote
RicoS321 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jute said: Apparently it was the keeper they got on loan from Hearts. Hamilton recalled the keeper they had been playing and he finished on Sunday. Keeper who Stranraer signed to replace him was cup tied so Stranraer had to get another one in but as they didn’t get him registered until after the time the tie was originally due to be played he was ineligible. Likely means that they will be kicked out the cup. Would have been fine if they registered him as an emergency loan but looks like they haven’t. I can't believe I'm still having to say this every season in the 21st century. How does the SFA (and SPFL, as it happens in the league cup too) allow this to happen? You submit your provisional squad a day before via an online app, and it puts a wee red cross next to any player that is ineligible. Everything held on the SFA database. Why on earth are clubs with part time admin staff being blamed for making simple errors that could be overcome by a rudimentary centralised database? One that holds suspension and registration data and a basic algorithm for the relatively simple rules. With a phone and PC app for submitting teams. Why are our national competitions being ruined because the cunts at head office can't provide a simple service? More importantly, why is nobody talking about this when it happens every season? Why is the blame aimed at small teams and the overriding systemic issue never talked about or addressed? Quote
wee toon red Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: I can't believe I'm still having to say this every season in the 21st century. How does the SFA (and SPFL, as it happens in the league cup too) allow this to happen? You submit your provisional squad a day before via an online app, and it puts a wee red cross next to any player that is ineligible. Everything held on the SFA database. Why on earth are clubs with part time admin staff being blamed for making simple errors that could be overcome by a rudimentary centralised database? One that holds suspension and registration data and a basic algorithm for the relatively simple rules. With a phone and PC app for submitting teams. Why are our national competitions being ruined because the cunts at head office can't provide a simple service? More importantly, why is nobody talking about this when it happens every season? Why is the blame aimed at small teams and the overriding systemic issue never talked about or addressed? I don't think you should have to idiot-proof what should be a fairly simple rule. If your role at a club is to administrate then it should be your responsibility to know the rules, whether you're part time or not. Especially when other clubs at a similar level have been burned for making the exact same mistake in recent seasons. There are hundreds of clubs under the SFA auspices, it's unrealistic to expect "head office" to take responsibility for every single player. Quote
Jute Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: I can't believe I'm still having to say this every season in the 21st century. How does the SFA (and SPFL, as it happens in the league cup too) allow this to happen? You submit your provisional squad a day before via an online app, and it puts a wee red cross next to any player that is ineligible. Everything held on the SFA database. Why on earth are clubs with part time admin staff being blamed for making simple errors that could be overcome by a rudimentary centralised database? One that holds suspension and registration data and a basic algorithm for the relatively simple rules. With a phone and PC app for submitting teams. Why are our national competitions being ruined because the cunts at head office can't provide a simple service? More importantly, why is nobody talking about this when it happens every season? Why is the blame aimed at small teams and the overriding systemic issue never talked about or addressed? You mean the COMET system for player registration. Quote
RicoS321 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, wee toon red said: I don't think you should have to idiot-proof what should be a fairly simple rule. If your role at a club is to administrate then it should be your responsibility to know the rules, whether you're part time or not. Especially when other clubs at a similar level have been burned for making the exact same mistake in recent seasons. There are hundreds of clubs under the SFA auspices, it's unrealistic to expect "head office" to take responsibility for every single player. But they are responsible for every single player. They hold all data on yellow and red cards, as well as all player registrations. And the latest copy of all the rules. The entire point is because other clubs have been burned. It happens every year. A bureaucratic human error results in a team getting thrown out of a competition. It's the most anti sport, and anti sporting, thing ever (VAR aside). Nobody is cheating, just simple error. Every year. It's ridiculous to expect part time clubs with part time admin staff to get it 100% correct every time, and the evidence shows that they don't, so why not fix it once, for everyone? They could start with league fixtures and the league cup, then expand to the Scottish cup and Highland/Lowland leagues when they feel their system is working well. It wouldn't even be difficult to offer a non-binding parallel system for a year to test it - I'm sure most clubs would be grateful. But, no, we expect every single club to have their own system, whether it be paper and pen or a shite spreadsheet, and for it to be 100% accurate despite Annie fae accounts being unwell and nobody can find the bits of paper she writes stuff on, but Barry kens fit she does so he can do it this week, although he has a full time job so won't have time to double check it. A centralised system is really, really simple. They undoubtedly have one anyway or else they wouldn't be picking up these ineligible players. The only difference would be that the ineligible player would be picked up before the game, and so nobody misses out. Quote
RicoS321 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Jute said: You mean the COMET system for player registration. I don't. I mean a system that is preventative, immediate, and actually works. They have all the data via COMET, it needs an outward facing portal for teams to submit lines every week and return if a player is suspended or ineligible due to registration issues. It should be an extremely simple add-on. Unless the system is already shite, in which case they need a COMET 2. Quote
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