RicoS321

Jesus. I just said that, that was an irrelevant statistic. I was asking the number of fans that don't go now due to travel issues that would now appear, not how many would get an easier journey. The two are hugely different. No you can't. It'll be entirely about preference and options. Those on the West can currently drive or get a bus. In future they'll just be able to drive. I'm being slightly facetious, but essentially you can dress it up either way, and you've just chosen the argument that suits. The only evidence that we can currently rely on is that many fans turn up from that area of the city currently. Whether more will turn up upon moving is speculation on your part. That wasn't a question I asked, but top straw-man nevertheless. I haven't once stated that support would decrease open moving stadium, because I don't believe it will. It will definitely show a marked improvement from day one. The only point I made, which you've ignored, is that if in 5-10 years prior to the move we have a downturn in performance - as happens regularly with a club of our standing; we will simply never afford to buy guaranteed success in the same way as the tims - would our attendances hold up, or tank. You don't have an answer to that question, for which we have years of evidence of the performance's effect on crowds (Patterson, Mcghee years etc).

Aye, 8th June The 3 girls round me at work didn't know to which party Theresa May belongs. Fuck.

Cunthole making an announcement at 11:15 this morning. Rumours suggesting an election. If true, not quite sure why one didn't happen a few months back. They'll get voted straight back in like.

You can't back that up with anything resembling evidence. "Most fans will find it easier". Even if that was the case, which I suspect it isn't, that isn't a relevant statistic. You'd need to find the evidence of numbers of current supporters who don't go because of the existing location (like you). Not the number who go anyway, but whose journey might be improved by the move. It's not an easy figure to come up with. Just as it is not easy to predict the effect on future attendances of a downturn in performance after the initial excitement of the shiny new thing wears off (for which we have plenty of evidence of at Pittodrie).

Dinna worry, they both look like they're well on the way to a couple of heart attacks or strokes, at which point I'll put up a photae of a lettuce for ye.

That's not really that logical for people who've walked to Pittodrie for so long though is it? Indeed, your argument would stand a lot better if you didn't say earlier in the thread that you currently don't have a season ticket because of the existing location. Logic, by your definition, will mean that those people who currently live in and walk from the city centre, would no longer attend regularly.

Is that normal? Or is it just being done because they don't want to "ruin the spectacle" of their beloved scum games, so they've taken any decisions out of the frame? It seems very strange that they can't arrange one day per week, every week, for an entire season. I guess we'll never get a journalist asking the question so we'll never know.

It's an interesting one like. I wonder if it is deliberately done this way so a player doesn't miss a semi in general, or if it has been done with the knowledge that it was a hun/tim semi and they were covering themselves in case one from either team was sent off. If it's the former, then I sort of sympathise with it. In my opinion, a league sending off shouldn't transpose to the cup, but a cup should transpose to the league if the suspended player's team are knocked out or if the remaining number of rounds doesn't cover a suspension (i.e. if a player is sent off in the semi with a two match suspension with one round remaining, they should miss a single league match too). It's a different competition, and players should be given every chance to play in that competition. I guarantee that whichever team gets through to the final against the jungles (the huns have nae hope in my opinion) they'll suffer a similar fate with different results in their final league game. My suspicion is that they just took this in because it is Scott Brown and the tims (they would have done the same for the hun captain like).

Shame for him like, probably nae quite deserved. Very difficult losing yer two best players. It's not like Dundee have a wealth of resources to find adequate replacements. It's basically down to luck. If you manage to get one or two good signings then yer sorted. McInnes has been very lucky in that regard with us. He's either been able to sign the best of the rest, or make three or four decent signings with a view to getting lucky with one or two. Ah well, that'll teach Hartley for the tims debacle

I'll say it again about O'Connor, it's positional (not that you're making another argument like, I'm just adding to yer point). It makes me sound as if I hate the guy or am blaming him, but I genuinely think he's a decent defender. That pen happened because he's so uncomfortable on his left. He goes for a ball that any left sided defender would have dealt with, because he attacks it with his right foot. It's so awkward it's unreal. I feel sorry for him as he's really only there as Taylor would be ten times worse, but it's a glaring issue in our setup. I can't imagine a circumstance where Reynolds won't be back in again next week. He simply has to be.

Thon Shalk is an absolute cheating cunt. Why refs aren't going into games completely aware of his diving is unbelievable. He was throwing himself to the floor every two minutes against us. Do refs not watch videos, or take lessons from other SPL games, or is that nae covered in their £1000 per game. Nae homework as it were. Obviously, fuck the tims in a' that.

Aye that 25 year old pensioner we signed could barely walk!

Fucksticks. Seems like we're struggling a little at the moment. We'll get back in it.

One change. McGinn replaced by Christie. Interesting to see the formation. Think Christie has shown he isn't a wide player.

Jesus based English pish.

I have a kitchen worktop endorsed by Alonso, and it's been great over the last 4 years. That makes him okay in my book. Which is what concerns him most.

Nae chance of Pawlett or others getting a send off at Pittodrie then, ah well. Be good to beat the Tims here on a Friday night.

Absolutely. I don't think it is what the team needs though. The team needs him in midfield. It's about weighing up the risks. Given we've let in half the goals we did last season with Taylor playing most of our games, I think it's far riskier to take Shinnie out of midfield. I think when Reynolds returns, we then make the decision to drop Taylor over O'Connor.

Think we'll go with the same team or three at the back for this one, depending on how they line up. Shinnie isn't going to left back, and nor should he on his current form. Give O'Connor and Taylor the chance to make amends as we'll undoubtedly need them both before the end of the season.

O'Connor was terrible in the final. Everytime he came out of defence with the ball he got caught on his wrong foot. He was at fault for three of the goals, two of which he ushered the defender into a shooting position rather than out wide or on to his own strong foot inside. It was only the second time O'Connor played on the wrong side of defence, the first being against the huns, and it should have been obvious that it wasn't his position. As you say, we played well with Shinnie at left back prior to that and we should have stuck with it with Taylor on the bench (O'Connor on the right side). That would have left Jack alongside McLean in the centre with Maddison in front. In fairness to McInnes, that in itself could have caused us many problems. O'Connor is a good defender. Better than Taylor in my opinion (just in case that was in doubt). He's better on the ball than Taylor, which is why - correctly - he draws the short straw to play on the left of defence. He's easily good enough to play on that side of defence against most teams in the league, and especially at home. When he has time on the ball, he's excellent. His distribution in the second half (pre-error) was fantastic - a cracking ball to Logan the highlight. However, when playing against the better (or on form) teams in the league, he gets pressured a lot more and struggles a little and begins to make mistakes as he tries to force the ball onto his right foot and dithers a little. That said, I think his mistakes at the weekend were caused by those round him. Taylor's useless punt in the air put him right in the shite. Although Considine or even Reynolds would have dealt with it by putting it back to the keeper or even out of play. He tried to be clever because he's capable of picking a pass in that situation, but that doesn't mean he should - that's certainly a problem he has (knowing when to try shit) on both sides of defence. To me, it isn't to do with partner, it is entirely positional. He simply isn't a left sided defender. The choice was whether to take Shinnie to left back, drop Taylor with Mclean dropping deep and Christie playing high up, or stick with what had been working. McInnes got it right in my opinion, and I doubt anyone on here would disagree. That was the best available team until we sign a replacement left back. It's unfortunate for O'Connor that he is the one that is asked to play out of position, but there were few other options. I think we'll see a back three for the Saints game, with O'Connor playing in the centre of Consi and Taylor. Until Reynolds comes back, there isn't another option. I think he'll slot straight back in for the semi and O'Connor will be dropped. I'd prefer to see an extended run of O'Connor alongside Reynolds. One further thing that was a bit worrying was O'Connor's response to the bollocking fae Jack. It was at that point he got jittery and his game went awry. It could just have been coincidence, but it didn't look like it. If he can't respond well to that, then that is a bit concerning. However, I've never believed that players screaming at each other helps at all and more often than not has a detrimental effect. Jack shouldn't be captain if he can't be encouraging rather than just angry. He was right in his criticism, but he should be stirring the team up and egging them on rather than the other way round.

I'm assuming you forgot about the napalm and white phosphorous used by the US in the Iraq war too?

^^^^This. I have a friend who works as a secret agent in the spying industry and he confirmed that the US has never, and will never use chemical weapons. Agent Orange he's called.

Saw it like, was good. Basically taught to conform from a very young age. Interesting that the guy said that his individuality was essentially taken from him. The old "it's not like that nowadays" trotted out for good measure of course.

Killie lost, Partick won. Top 6 decided, so hopefully see the fixtures by close of play Monday.

Am I right in thinking that we are heavily constricted by the RDS positioning? If we're doing hypothetical stadium plans, wid it be possible to ditch the RDS and move the whole thing back by 5 or so metres and perhaps round a bit to the left if yer facing from the sea in order to use the space where the Soother car park is? Then you'd be further from the flats on both Sooth and Merkie. That'd be perfect, thanks. Anyway, I'll take the 13 thoosan seats for now and we can keep that until building techniques improve and we can get a further 5 thoosan then.