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If it's anything like the last Lithuania game then I think you should just stay in bed, safe in the knowledge that the score will still be the same in the morning. Your dreams should consist of: "Scotland win 4-0 as Strachan and McGhee are hit by bus en route to the game".

I'm wondering why neither have been involved in a WYOWYN.

Is it about consultation? Surely if there are genuine restrictions that apply, the CC don't need to check with the public first? For example, my in-laws wanted to build a turbine on their land, which the community council objected to because it was on green belt (it didn't go to committee or public consultation). I applied for a hoose on the same land but on the site of an existing ruin, and it went to public committee because it didn't contravene green belt planning considerations, but was still in an area where they felt the public should have a say (they didnae gie a fuck so it passed). In other words, the mechanisms and rules are in place that enforced that objection. I'm pretty certain that if the entire community had wanted the turbine to be built, the CC would still be entitled/required to object because it contravenes the green belt planning rules (that would be their default position, unless persuaded otherwise)? Otherwise what's the point in those rules? It's then up to the cooncil to justify why they think said rules should be broken on this occasion. Are we/you saying that any application that is being objected to by CC for breaching a specific rule has to go for public consultation? Genuine questions, I'm unsure how the process works.

Dugdale was the 6th permanent leader, been quite a few "acting" as you'd expect. One every 3 years. Probably about the same as the UK tories. I don't get her shite about how great it is she's leaving without controversy and with a stable party. Unfinished would surely be the only description of that?

Yep. It certainly shows where ACC stand on the situation. I think argument is pretty tenuous like. KCC clearly objected on grounds of green belt land, I'm not sure they would need a public consultation. Fantastic work on the drawings Tom, much appreciated. Will follow up with some questions later....

It's okay, he has no mettle.

Maybe he's just nae as good as everyone thought. A couple of great goals aside he wasn't that reliable when he was here first time around. I actually didn't think he'd be McInnes' type of player so was surprised when he signed. Swans about a lot and holds onto the ball for far too long. However, it could just be that O'Connor's had no reason to be dropped yet? I don't think Arneson is going to cover the left side, nor do I think O'Connor will, so I suspect it's either Arneson and O'Connor and there's been no good reason to hook O'Connor.

Possibly, but I suspect it's more to do with the fact that their skint. They're a few months behind on the building works, and it'll be hitting them hard. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to have a below-par season whilst all their investment is going into developing the ground. I'd expect them to recover next season, but I think they'll just have to limp through this one. Levein is actually the right person to grind out results with a brutal style of football.

Agreed. He hasn't had a great start, but there's signs there if he can just get his shite together on the pitch. Incidents like these can be one-offs that have little or no affect on his future conduct. We've all been there. To be honest, I think it's great. Fitba wid be shite without stories like these. It's funnier when it happens to other teams' players of course, but it's good to laugh at ourselves occasionally too. Significantly happier with this story than those that accompanied the last young Utd superstar that we signed.

Why would going out in Glasgow until the early hours be in breach of club rules? Players are out in Aberdeen reasonably regularly without issue. I doubt it'd be a problem, especially with the international break. However, jumping in a river is an issue, especially when it leads to hypothermia and being rescued. Hopefully there were mitigating circumstances, like he'd just split up with his boyfriend. He's a wee bit glaikit like, so I think we should cut him some slack. Hopefully it'll have given him a kick up the airse and he'll get his head down and concentrate on his fitba. He has the potential to be a good player if he sorts himself out - has a lot to offer the game as soon as he works out how to play it. Hopefully that'll be with us.

I think the reliance on Hayes by Considine is overstating it massively. Most of his defending is done hard up against the winger, which is where he's best. Regardless of Hayes being there or not, if he gives a player a chance to turn and run at him out wide, he'll have difficulty. It'll be interesting to see what we do after the international break. I didn't see too much in the highlights that suggested our centre halves were dodgy at the weekend, with May and McLean losing their men at set-pieces and Shinnie making a woeful pass for the first. It seemed that the general tinkering caused us more issues than the individuals themselves, so perhaps a couple of weeks in whatever McInnes decides as his back line will do us good. The quandary is definitely the left side of defence though, and Arneson doesn't solve that issue unfortunately. That said, the defence we have of Logan, O'Connor, Reynolds and Considine has proved that it's good enough to beat any teams at SPL level outside Celtic, and I think we just need to go with it - at least until January. I think McInnes does need to pick a settled back line though. Also, that pass from McLean and shot by Christie was top class. If that had gone in, it'd have been goal of the season material.

If he's deid, do we get our money back?

He looked pretty weak (physically) at times when he came off the bench in previous seasons. He should still have got more of a chances last season. The biggest thing for me is McInnes' willingness to give youngsters from other teams more game time than our own. Compare the minutes Christie and Maddison got last season to that of Wright and it's obvious. We had that spastic McLauchlan too, as well as the decent Hector and the shite Donervan Daniels. They all got time where our youngsters are overlooked. We actively helped in progressing other teams' youngsters. A little weird.

Good stuff. A decen't window overall from McInnes (assuming Stockley leaves). Getting rid of Storey and Stockley was imperative. I can see Maynard joining them in January for another punt for 6 months. However, he was right to bring in Maynard given we hadn't got May in and overall it's been quite decent given the departures. Hopefully we have enough between Stewart and GMS to make up one decent player!

To be fair, every reply on the thread gives the op abuse for the ridiculous suggestion. Makes for quite good reading actually.

I've heard "his legs have gone". A player that was off form, but still capable of scoring when required, such as the semi against Hibs. Looked in need of a rest last season, and just a wee bit of form returning. Hopefully this will be the start of that.

Not sure what you mean? It would reduce the capacity. Takes up more space.

I said "generally". He does occasionally. He does go in for ones I don't expect him too though, and challenges for everything in the air. He's nae McGinn, put it that way.

He's had some pretty awful games at left back when deployed there randomly every so often rather than every week (he was ace there when he played that role every week of course). Similar happened a couple of seasons back when he played there against the tims and had to be shifted into centre mid with Considine moving left after about half an hour. I'm guessing that losing 3 goals had a lot to do with him not being in midfield too. Tansey and McLean both great passers of the ball and don't shirk the challenges generally, but don't have the in-your-face work-rate of Shinnie. That said, it's nae a bad position to be in, and it's good that Shinnie is willing to move to left back when required. His best position is the one he's playing in every week I suppose. I'd say that's left back, but in our team it's centre mid.

Ahh. I only listened to the second half. Fuck him then, hope he fucks off to the huns.

I agree, however it's not McInnes's style like. Generally our two up front involves one of the two actually playing wide, which means we don't get the best out of one of them. Having seen May dropping to collect the ball and bringing others into play last week, I wouldn't be averse to seeing the two of them together. It'd just be up to our defence and midfield managing to hold it together without the extra person.

Partick down to ten. Sounds like McLean having a decent game.

Aye, he's ace. Surprised to see him on the pitch alongside May, thought it'd be either or. Good stuff though. Hopefully that'll give him a kick up the airse that he's been needing. Either way, fantastic player to have on the pitch or bench. Top of the league...

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I've never suggested I was an architect, nor a change manager. Nobody has been solicited to provide drawings of the 12K seater at Pittodrie as far as I'm aware, ergo, noone is qualified to "pass fact". If you can point to anything relevant I've said that's unproven, then go for it. If you can point to any evidence of a 12K seater stadium, then I'll happily be persuaded. In fact, the only thing of any importance in this thread that remains unproven is the 12K figure.