There sems to be a fair mix of opinion on Milnes leadership and management of Aberdeen's affairs.  i thought it would be interesting after, not just a poor result today, but after what seems a poor spell in the transfer market and a run of questionable results.  This is not a knee jerk "Milne must go" rant, just an exercise in general opinion.

I voted for who would want the job anyway.

Until someone with money comes in that is willing to invest in players and training facilities etc whats the point in getting rid of Milne.

Sometimes it is better the devil you know and we don't want to end up like Hearts.

wiggy is a w@nker. the boy is one of richest men in britain with a few hundred mill in the bank and thats just his business money not his personal wealth, he's only hear to sell pittodrie and build homes on the land because it's worth a fortune, he's an arse

wiggy is a w@nker. the boy is one of richest men in britain with a few hundred mill in the bank and thats just his business money not his personal wealth, he's only hear to sell pittodrie and build homes on the land because it's worth a fortune, he's an arse

 

I agree but is the next man going to spend anymore.

only person with the money and local is the boy ian wood(Woodgroup) but i think he's into rugby or something

Quite clearly not.

 

Yes I know Calderwood has his detractors and to be honest he has given them plenty of ammunition.

 

But in a season when we recopu the best part of 1.5 mil in tfr fees and a lucrative european run I would expect to see contracts to meet players demands and furthermore a defender to replace Anderson coming in during January - instead of bargain basement pish, protracted contract wrangles and losing 2 first team players.

 

Debt or no debt it is without question there is no ambition showing from Milne.

 

Calderwood can only do so much..

wiggy is a w@nker. the boy is one of richest men in britain with a few hundred mill in the bank and thats just his business money not his personal wealth, he's only hear to sell pittodrie and build homes on the land because it's worth a fortune, he's an arse

 

I have said it before and been ripped apart for it. I believe this his only interest. Otherwise a real fan would put at least a little bit of cash into the club.

 

I did hear rumours about Paul Lawrie being a possibility, but that was a few years ago.

wiggy is a w@nker. the boy is one of richest men in britain with a few hundred mill in the bank and thats just his business money not his personal wealth, he's only hear to sell pittodrie and build homes on the land because it's worth a fortune, he's an arse

 

I think you hit the nail on the head there...it's his BUSINESS assets. His 'wealth' isn't his pennies he has sitting in an Aberdeen branch of the Royal Bank or somewhere. The £200m or whatever figure it is isn't his liquid assets he's able to pump into AFC.

i heard lawrie too a few years ago but don't think he's got the cash, if he did i don't think he would think twice about throwing money at the club

FFS, if I had 'the cash' I WOULD think twice about throwing money at the club. Yes they are my team and the only team I care about in football, but you will never get a (great) return on investing in an SPL team outwith the OF. Never.

I don't think Milne would do it anyway. I'll never forget the post Copenhagen dressing room shot, and the commentators were on about wonder if he'll give any money now...Hibs fan I was with today even brought up "Toaster gate". But if he is in it for the money, he's in the wrong business i'm afraid. I wouldn't chuck millions at Aberdeen, especially with the board thats there.

 

I think we should just accept that this is the best form of leadership we're going to get in the foreseeable future. As someone said, better the devil you know and all that...

Ok, fair enough, very few people expect him to "do a david murray" and chuck personal millions at a manager, but what about other areas of leadership such as bringing in decent sponors, the marketing of the club and the dealing of contracts. IMO I reckon he has failed in at least 2/3 of these?

Thats not his responsiblity is it? I honestly think, and i'm sure everyone has thought, the club needs clearing out in the way it is being run. I don't think anyone behind the scenes is doing their job properly. From as you said, bringing in decent sponsors (although hopefully with us being in Europe will give us a bit more bargaining power) right down to players contracts and marketing. It is a joke.

Fair enough he;s not actually working on these things himself on a daily basis, but if these things are not been done properly, then its his ultimate responsibilty to sort it out?

correct

 

This is the new BNP chat.

This is the new BNP chat.

 

Great isn't it  As I said, I apologise or negativety today. Just so disappointed. I'm sure i'll feel a bit better tomorrow. Just hasn't been the best of weeks for the club.

This is the new BNP chat.

 

A bit harsh. Im hardly advocating stringing the man up from the nearest tree!!

Yet....

No a simple removing from the corridors of power will suffice.  Wouldnt waste the rope.

No a simple removing from the corridors of power will suffice.  Wouldnt waste the rope.

 

Cos that's likely to happen, eh?

Me wasting rope? Not likely. Too stingy to be wasteful.

A bit harsh. Im hardly advocating stringing the man up from the nearest tree!!

 

I'll get the pitchforks if you want to find some flaming torches. 

 

I've said no. In theory, Milne could/should be a very good chairman. He's got the wealth to help out, he's apparently a fan, he's got the business profile to attract the corporate big hitters (even if he doesn't do the actual negotiating, surely he can be an attractive "face" to investors?). However, it just doesn't look like it'll work out like that, for god knows what reason. He just doesn't seem to do much of anything.

Willie Miller for Wiggy's position?? Reading an article in Scotland on Sunday today (Cant find the article on line) that puts Bayern Munich's continuing success down to so many ex players making up the areas where big decisions are made, ie Ruminigge and Breitner.  Surely a combo of people who actually give a toss is whats needed to progress the club???

Willie Miller for Wiggy's position?? Reading an article in Scotland on Sunday today (Cant find the article on line) that puts Bayern Munich's continuing success down to so many ex players making up the areas where big decisions are made, ie Ruminigge and Breitner.  Surely a combo of people who actually give a toss is whats needed to progress the club???

 

And who secures the debt?

 

Think about it man.

christ, get a grip (a lot of you) will you.

 

There's absolutley no doubting the business acumen of stewart milne (as he is a self made multi millionaire with one of the biggest independant house builders in the country) so no-one can bitch about how he runs a business (if you're better, then where's your millions???)

 

Without him personally, AFC would have had the administrators in a long time ago.  Without him, you would have no club to support (not that there's much supporting going on here).  The club was in dire straits before he came into the chairmans position (yes he conintued to spend more than was coming in - but this was necessary to try to keep up in the premier league then) but it's not all his debt that the club has.

 

There is a compromise to be made, and he's making it.  It's not a very popular compromise, but it's keeping our debt wolf from the door.  Maybe a 250k defender and a 300k forward wouldn't go astray, but then their wage demands would out of our strucutre.  

 

 

 

 

I can't be arsed typing anymore.