tsr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Being honest, I have been really disappointed with Hartley bar a few games, the only stand out performance I can recall was Raith Rovers where he single handedly won us the game. Overall, he has looked past it, slow, gives the ball away to much and where I totally disagree with Kelt, miles off a man, I don't mean his mand as at some times he's been so far away from any man its difficult to work out who he's meant to be up against in midfield. Yes he is a good captain, or so it appears on the outside, but if he wasn't captain i'd want him out the team, assuming we had Fyvie or Pawlett fully fit, as we don't then we don't have any real options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Being honest, I have been really disappointed with Hartley bar a few games, the only stand out performance I can recall was Raith Rovers where he single handedly won us the game. Overall, he has looked past it, slow, gives the ball away to much and where I totally disagree with Kelt, miles off a man, I don't mean his mand as at some times he's been so far away from any man its difficult to work out who he's meant to be up against in midfield. Yes he is a good captain, or so it appears on the outside, but if he wasn't captain i'd want him out the team, assuming we had Fyvie or Pawlett fully fit, as we don't then we don't have any real options. well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 well said Massive difference between being a player who was formerly brilliant, still has it but can't manage 38 games a season yet for ninety minutes will make himself seen and heard and be the mouthpiece the team needs and being a player who can do magical things with a ball but only when you can be arsed. If your team mates doesn't pass you're prone to have a massive strop yet have the cheek to try ridiculous shots from all angles with about 1 in 10 resulting in a game. Each to their own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Let's see how we do without him against St Mirren eh? Then we can judge a) the Brown effect b) how much of a difference Hartley makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Is it only 'well said' if they agree with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Fosters Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Is it only 'well said' if they agree with you? Just if they use "facts" rather than lie through our teeth and make up stuff like the rest of us do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Massive difference between being a player who was formerly brilliant, still has it but can't manage 38 games a season yet for ninety minutes will make himself seen and heard and be the mouthpiece the team needs and being a player who can do magical things with a ball but only when you can be arsed. If your team mates doesn't pass you're prone to have a massive strop yet have the cheek to try ridiculous shots from all angles with about 1 in 10 resulting in a game. Each to their own though. calm down Hartley has never been BRILLIANT also hate the way youre making it out as if i dont like the guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 calm down Hartley has never been BRILLIANT also hate the way youre making it out as if i dont like the guy Hartley has never been brilliant, like one of the best players in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Is it only 'well said' if they agree with you? in my opinion, yes otherwise, if someone said something i dont agree with, it would be "poorly said" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 in my opinion, yes otherwise, if someone said something i dont agree with, it would be "poorly said" Poorly said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Hartley has never been brilliant, like one of the best players in Scotland? Laudrup, Gascoigne, Zerouali, Larsson, Lee Miller and Moravcik were brilliant paul hartley has never been, in those terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Poorly said. haha, you've got it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 in my opinion, yes otherwise, if someone said something i dont agree with, it would be "poorly said" Laudrup, Gascoigne, Zerouali, Larsson, Lee Miller and Moravcik were brilliant paul hartley has never been, in those terms In those terms neither was Zerouali or Miller. Poorly said, very very poorly said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 In those terms neither was Zerouali or Miller. Poorly said, very very poorly said. glad its catching on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Laudrup, Gascoigne, Zerouali, Larsson, Lee Miller and Moravcik were brilliant paul hartley has never been, in those terms Outstanding Brilliant Good, if could be bothered Average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Outstanding Brilliant Good, if could be bothered Average poorly said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 BTW, loving mentioning Lee Miller in the same post as Laudrup and Larsson! He fairly teared it up at Notts County! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Fosters Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 He is obviously at it with comments like that. Lee Miller classed as excellent in Scotland, michty me. As far as the noughties (for lack of a better term) I think you will struggle to identify any more influential and consistent player whilst playing for a team outside of the Old Firm than Paul Hartley at Hearts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 poorly said You're reight. Classing Zero as average was probably pretty generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 You're reight. Classing Zero as average was probably pretty generous. He was far better than average! Hardly in the same class as Laudrup or Larrson though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Street Loon Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Laudrup, Gascoigne, Zerouali, Larsson, Lee Miller and Moravcik were brilliant paul hartley has never been, in those terms You're surely having a laugh including Zero & Lee Miller in the same class as the others?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 glad its catching on! You will note it has been 100% at you. Zerouali and Miller in that list, lollercaust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherock Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 He was far better than average! Hardly in the same class as Laudrup or Larrson though. I wouldn't say so. He was very hit or miss at Aberdeen. In the end he left Aberdeen after a very up and down spell, had a brief stint in Saudi Arabia and then ended up back in Morocco. If he'd been as good as some folk used to say, he'd have got a gig in Spain or England, or somewhere like that, after leaving Aberdeen. With Zerouali, there were occassional flashes of brilliance... but that's all they ever were. There was never a sustained spell of good form. If he was any better than average, he'd have dominated the SPL. In reality, he was nowhere near that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I wouldn't say so. He was very hit or miss at Aberdeen. In the end he left Aberdeen after a very up and down spell, had a brief stint in Saudi Arabia and then ended up back in Morocco. If he'd been as good as some folk used to say, he'd have got a gig in Spain or England, or somewhere like that, after leaving Aberdeen. With Zerouali, there were occassional flashes of brilliance... but that's all they ever were. There was never a sustained spell of good form. If he was any better than average, he'd have dominated the SPL. In reality, he was nowhere near that level. Let's not let common sense get in the way here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millertime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 BTW, loving mentioning Lee Miller in the same post as Laudrup and Larsson! He fairly teared it up at Notts County! haha was wondering when someone would pick me up on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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