inspirational figure. he really is.

 

looking at the way he talks to our players throughout the game.

 

the way he barracks the opposition

 

the way he generally just struts about with his chest out, its great to see.

 

HOWEVER...i think weve been so starved of proper professionals over the years that its actually a little sad how we - i included - have latched onto this guy as being some kind of messiah

 

i want to hammer home that im happy hes at our club and that hes our captain, but...im sorry to say, he looks like a shadow of a player out on the park

 

the game seems to continually pass him by and my question is....can we afford that?

Can't believe millertime was right. Mods delete this thread so we can pretend it never happened

 

Ideally someone should now be stepping up to the plate...question is, who?

Lee Hendrie  :OP

Can't believe millertime was right. Mods delete this thread so we can pretend it never happened

 

Ideally someone should now be stepping up to the plate...question is, who?

 

I'd have said Young if it wasn't for his idiocy at Hampden.

 

 

Idiotic retaliation - from the highlights, I'm surprised the Motherwell player didnt get sanctions aswell though. I was a bad challenge.

 

However, I think the simple fact of the matter is that if Hartley was still playing at his previous level - He would still be in the championship & not at Aberdeen.  I also think that if Folley wasn't out for the season, Hartley wouldnt be exposed so obviously as being past it.

taken from the "Thursday's football gossip" section of BBC:

 

Aberdeen have been handed a boost when it emerged that Paul Hartley's red card against Motherwell had not taken the midfielder through the points threshold that would have triggered an additional two-match suspension. (Various)

 

I stand corrected from my earlier post stating that he had a 3 match ban.

 

To be honest I'm not sure whether this makes things any better.  If he's on the park is he only going to get himself sent off . . . setting a good example to the younger boys

 

 

 

taken from the "Thursday's football gossip" section of BBC:

 

Aberdeen have been handed a boost when it emerged that Paul Hartley's red card against Motherwell had not taken the midfielder through the points threshold that would have triggered an additional two-match suspension. (Various)

 

I stand corrected from my earlier post stating that he had a 3 match ban.

 

To be honest I'm not sure whether this makes things any better.  If he's on the park is he only going to get himself sent off . . . setting a good example to the younger boys

 

 

Also says that Aluko is blaming Hartley for the defeat. No direct quotes to give it any context as per usual though.

Looked it up EP. Absolute nonsense from the Daily R*cord again. Shocker.

 

Nigeria international winger Aluko is adamant his captain should have known better.

 

He said: "There's a real sense of injustice in the dressing room because of the way it happened.

 

"Paul was challenged first and it looked a very robust challenge but he is an experienced guy, he knows he can't react like that.

 

"There is no point in criticising the referee who did his best in what was a difficult game.

 

"Paul didn't hold his hands up as we were all listening to the gaffer and Archie Knox.

 

"He's disappointed as he knows we need 11 men on the pitch at all times. He's a key player for us and we will have to dig deep when he's out suspended.

 

"It's going to be a big ask now to make the top six. We needed a result against Well to stay on course.

 

"We have three home games in a row now but we must make Pittodrie a hard place to come to."

 

also, can't copy and paste for some reason but redTV has a dig at the R*cord on the afc.co.uk page today, saying Aluko's comments have been taken completely out of context.

Was Lasley even booked for his fore-arm smash on Hartley that caused all this? It was an absolute shocker.

Didn't think so, but the match report says he got a yellow for it.

Was Lasley even booked for his fore-arm smash on Hartley that caused all this? It was an absolute shocker.

 

Radio said he got booked.

RE: Lasley - I've seen reds given for less.

Makes you wonder if Hartley hadn't lost it it would have been a red for Lasley?  Seeing how the way cards are given theses days is so subjective, I wonder if the ref looked at it and thought Lasleys challenge wasn't as bad as Hartleys reaction, ones a red and the others a yellow.

"it's a conspiracy" Copyright rasellick

So will Hartley get back into the team for the Hamilton game tomorrow?

So will Hartley get back into the team for the Hamilton game tomorrow?

 

As no long as no injuries to the team that started on Saturday would hope that manager would not make any changes to a winning team.

He's still the cpatain though so i would be surprised if he's not included.  Also with hearts on sat the squad will need to be rotated a bit, besides hamilton are fucking mince!

Shouldn't be in the first 11 for the game tomorrow, imo. Derek Young played well, and should retain his place until he doesn't play well.

He's still the cpatain though so i would be surprised if he's not included.  Also with hearts on sat the squad will need to be rotated a bit, besides hamilton are fucking mince!

 

A reason to give him a rest I think.

Radio Scotland reporting that hartley could be out for the season.

A blessing in disguise perhaps, although does that mean Diamond is now captain? 

Assume it was made worse by him coming back on for a few minutes?

 

Radio also saying he may have scored the first.

 

Radio also saying he may have scored the first.

 

He took the corner! Nah dont think so! Looked like it was flicked on from Diamond and Maguire got on the end of it.

 

I dont think Hartely possibly being out for the season can be seen as a good thing. When Young came out, the centre of midfield quickly became non-existent whereas when Hartely was on, there was a good deal of work and play coming from there. Young stood off his man everytime. Whilst I agree that he is showing his age, I still believe that he's not finished yet.

Just saw the goals on SSN and it was definitely Maguire's.

 

I knew he took the corner but they reckoned it might have gone straight in.

Assume it was made worse by him coming back on for a few minutes?

 

Radio also saying he may have scored the first.

 

yeah from where I was sitting I didn't think he should have played on after the injury.  He was clearly struggling. 

Fit's wrong with him?