FCSB away

[DantheDon]

It’s frustrating as while I don’t think FCSB are a bad team they looked like a team struggling for confidence and we weren’t able to capitalise. I hope that it’s just the amount of turnover in the squad and little time to get familiar that is leading to our impotence up front and mistakes at the back. We have three games at Pittodrie coming up in the next few weeks with the international break sandwiched in between. Falkirk Livingston, Motherwell all games of which we should be looking to win. Hopefully we can look to get up and running and build some momentum. 

[RicoS321]

Anti football pish wins the day again. VAR will end football in a decade if this shite continues - which it will. I'd love it if we were a lot less accepting of it. Jensen kicking fuck out of the VAR screen at the side of the pitch on the way off. We just meekly accept this shite. 

[Jute]

While I don’t think it was a penalty I did think Jensen caught forward and probably should have got a yellow card for a foul outside box. 
 

VAR and handball rules are fucking awful. 

[redordead]

11 minutes ago, Jute said:

While I don’t think it was a penalty I did think Jensen caught forward and probably should have got a yellow card for a foul outside box. 
 

VAR and handball rules are fucking awful. 

Totally agree. Handball was unavoidable at the pace they were moving and the ball bobbles as striker lost footing 

I thought he touched the trailing leg but outside the box. I could've lived with that decision.

[RicoS321]

9 minutes ago, Jute said:

While I don’t think it was a penalty I did think Jensen caught forward and probably should have got a yellow card for a foul outside box. 
 

VAR and handball rules are fucking awful. 

The referee saw the possible foul, and didn't call it. There was no reason for VAR to intervene. The handball rules are awful, but they do not state that all connections with a hand are handball. 

Jensen was terrible 

BECAUSE 

HE'S 

NOT 

A

FUCKING 

LEFT 

BACK 

The above is aimed at Thelin, and the numerous Dons fans that think that he might be because he did it once in primary school.

[baggy89]

Club need to call out the ref and UEFA. Laws of the game it’s not a handball. Far too close, and arm in a natural position. More importantly though the ref can’t issue a yellow following a VAR review for a routine yellow card offence. Only for simulation if they’ve originally given a pen (dissent) or downgrading a red to a yellow following review. Not sure how it’s possible to happen in the circumstances. Surely someone in the VAR team could have pointed out the error in the CR’s officiating?? 

[OrlandoDon]

Tried to watch the game at work on my phone, not overly successful, prob saw most of the first 50 mins. Thought we played well for the first 35, if sokler scores in the 2nd minute what a different game. And he should have scored. We struggled the last 10 and I said to myself we need ht.
Didn’t see the penalty live but really unfortunate. Jensen gets picked on, rightly or wrongly, but I’m a fan. He gave a good foul for his first booking by being physical, and was really unlucky for the penalty. I’m not clear on the rules, isn’t a penalty enough given it wasn’t an intentional foul (not even a foul, hand in a natural running position)? I thought they’d done away with a foul and a card and a penalty was punishment enough given the nature of the so called foul. Not sure why a yellow was given. Anywhere else on the field that may not have been a foul and is certainly not a card.

Second goal is a fine strike but where are our holding mids? Guy had a ton of time and space if I recall.

been said before, conference league prob best for us with perhaps more competitive games. We need a 9 and a few goals and wins to pick us up. Intrigued with the end of window signings plus keen to see Marko up top. 
Last point, Europa league finances would have been split with the old firm I think, hibs lose and conference league alone, must help us a little financially there??

[OrlandoDon]

3 minutes ago, baggy89 said:

Club need to call out the ref and UEFA. Laws of the game it’s not a handball. Far too close, and arm in a natural position. More importantly though the ref can’t issue a yellow following a VAR review for a routine yellow card offence. Only for simulation if they’ve originally given a pen (dissent) or downgrading a red to a yellow following review. Not sure how it’s possible to happen in the circumstances. Surely someone in the VAR team could have pointed out the error in the CR’s officiating?? 

Interesting……assuming you are correct, any similar situations where var has incorrectly sent a player off? Was var even looking for a hand ball in the first place, I couldn’t tell? As has been said, I thought they were reviewing a potential foul and whether it was in or outside the box.

[RicoS321]

12 minutes ago, baggy89 said:

Club need to call out the ref and UEFA. Laws of the game it’s not a handball. Far too close, and arm in a natural position. More importantly though the ref can’t issue a yellow following a VAR review for a routine yellow card offence. Only for simulation if they’ve originally given a pen (dissent) or downgrading a red to a yellow following review. Not sure how it’s possible to happen in the circumstances. Surely someone in the VAR team could have pointed out the error in the CR’s officiating?? 

Fairly certain the yellow is correct protocol. They hadn't given a penalty originally. 

However, the yellow card should be indication that the decision was stupidly incorrect. How on earth can you book a player for being hit by the ball? There's no way that the ref could have been comfortable with that. 

[RicoS321]

10 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Was var even looking for a hand ball in the first place, I couldn’t tell? As has been said, I thought they were reviewing a potential foul and whether it was in or outside the box.

VAR checks everything, so yes they will have been checking. Nobody in the world would have thought that they were checking handball, which is why everyone thought they'd have been reviewing a foul (I couldn't hear the commentary in the boozer). Everyone watching the game will have seen it touching Jensen's arm in real time, or at worse on the replay, but nobody in their right mind would have thought they were checking for handball because it was such a fucking atrocious decision. I didn't even know it was given for handball until I saw a replay of the ref's signal during half time highlights. My mate had suggested it for a joke, but we all laughed it off. I just assumed that the non-foul was classed as inside the box.

[baggy89]

As I understand it, it was given for handball.
Can’t think it would have been a yellow for foul outside the box that would be a red for stopping a goal scoring opportunity and that should have been issued first downgraded to yellow following VAR review for foul inside the box and pen (still ultimately a sending off I guess, if officiated properly). But if somehow he’s decided it was a foul in the box and a yellow card offence it’s still a routine foul, so can’t issue a yellow following VAR review. 

[baggy89]

44 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Fairly certain the yellow is correct protocol. They hadn't given a penalty originally. 

However, the yellow card should be indication that the decision was stupidly incorrect. How on earth can you book a player for being hit by the ball? There's no way that the ref could have been comfortable with that. 

Just had a check of my ifab. Never going to ref at a high enough level to have VAR . So never really looked at that part before. Think you are right because of the pen being a “game changing decision” ref then has to take appropriate disciplinary action. Still not a hand ball though…

Edited 32 minutes ago by baggy89

[Jute]

1 hour ago, RicoS321 said:

The referee saw the possible foul, and didn't call it. There was no reason for VAR to intervene. The handball rules are awful, but they do not state that all connections with a hand are handball. 

Jensen was terrible 

BECAUSE 

HE'S 

NOT 

A

FUCKING 

LEFT 

BACK 

The above is aimed at Thelin, and the numerous Dons fans that think that he might be because he did it once in primary school.

I don’t think he is even best right back at club. 
 

Since summer seen a few handballs in European leagues that have been similar where any contact with the ball has been given as penalties. The rules might not have changed but I think the directive to referees on how handball is judged have.