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and in lighter news England 0-1 Ukraine

Serbia humping wales Croatia drawing with Belgium and of course Macedonia drawing with Avril Table currently looking like this P W D L F A PTS Serbia 2 1 1 0 4 1 4 (1hme, 1 away) Belgium 2 1 1 0 3 1 4 (1hme, 1 away) Croatia 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 (1hme, 1 away) Scotland 2 0 2 0 1 1 2 (2 home) Macedonia 2 0 1 1 1 2 1 (2 away) Wales 2 0 0 2 1 5 0 (1 home, 1 away)

Is that Levein's opening line at tomorrows team talk?

Mccalls record against the currants Played 6 Won 0 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals for 1 Goals against 19 Release the conspiracy theorists

More people turned up at Ibrox than at Parkhead this weekend.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19452033 BBC getting worse

tic supposedly trying to tempt Del Piero to the East End Have they learned nothing from the Lyjunberg fiasco?

In Some hired people carrier thing driven by a someone else then the pub apparently RDU Back in said hired people carrier thing (tad concerned about what GS has planned for it) 0-0

Presume you've never been involved in a large construction project in a historical area (or any area for that matter?) Not a question of rational or sensible thoughts. Its pointing out that all the plans etc have been done based on non intrusive surveys so in an ancient city you never know what the former occupants decided to build on top off and its nieve to assume everything is fine and it will run like clockwork. Plus a development like this is about as likely to be delivered on time and on budget as a certain Tram network and given its location could cause almost as much disruption.

I think the locals will when their bin collections are cut back to monthly, Few more schools get amalgamated but at the same time cutting the level of teachers to deal with the larger classes, Duthie Park and the like lose a few parkies and start becoming overgrown, etc etc. The 90million loan based on being paid off by business rates is a very scary thought (for me anyway) as it smacks of the thinking that fucked the world economey. Yes sir heres a 110% mortgage. Dont worry in 5 years time yer house will be worth 1.5times what it is now. Madam why not release some equity in yer home. Then you can get yerself a new car or go on a luxury holiday. Dont worry about repaying it as property values are going up and up you know. why of course mr council man, 90million will easily be repaid in a booming city like Aberdeen. I mean just look at Union Street, you cant get a unit/ office in there for love nor money Be even more entertaining when they started digging out the land and found things no one knew about - Ancient relics, old foundations, old gas mains or sewers long forgotten about, underground streams, large build up of bedrock that will need blasting. Then of course the inevitable contractor disputes, potential for adverse weather conditions and the whole mess with Scotrail as to how you work safetly over their line without restricting their services. 140million suddenly becomes 150million and the steadily rises till the QS says 'woaaah there, we need to find savings somewhere.....get rid of that bit...and that...and that...can we change that etc.

Why not everyone else does

request - please start using the metric system Yes there is always a way around things like that. Its called have bottomless pit of money and in the case of the Aviva stadium, a much larger site with the option to rotate your stadium 90degrees. Id really love to see someone try and put together a scheme for a redeveloped pittodrie which involved underground tunnels for crowd circulation. The structural design headaches of carrying out such an operation on sandy soil in such a built up area would be entertaining enough before they even got to the M & E issues, fire escapes, DDA access, Emergency vehicle access.

Pittodries pitch is 100m x 66m. UEFA rules actually require the pitch to be 105m x 68m for champions league and its only a matter of time before they insist on that for Europa league games. They've already lengthened it once which fucked up the RDS upper tier and there any much scope to go any further. Where do you propose the club get the finances as to pay for the redevelopment? The only money the club has is tied up in the land Pittodrie is built on. We are like those pensioners who live in expensive houses but cant afford to pay for the heating or repairs. it is the fact that 3 of the 4 stands are accessed from public roads which are basically rendered impassible for long periods on match days. Since these roads provide access to residential properties the police cant actually close them on match days. Tynecastle itself sits back from Macloed street Gorgie Road, and Wheatfield Terrace and has a linked concourse areas underneath and to the back of side of each of the new stands which allow for fast evacuation into controlled areas (ie not straight onto an emergency services access road). The stands are only part of the problem with Pittodrie. All large buildings require adequete infrastructure and the pittodrie site just doesnt have it without drastically reducing the capacity.

Name those stadiums

Including/ converting is one thing. Demolishing and rebuilding is another. Anyway as BTR says no part of pittodrie is listed

That really is a shit survey. Its actually not worth even completing

Be interested to see if Forres do get to play at Mosset Park supposedly only got a safety certificate for about 1500 folk. Suspect they will probably shift it to Inverness

perhaps said private landowners are looking to make a profit on sites they had thought would be snapped up for housing/ commercial developments but have had next to fuck all and are watching their investment value plummet ergo they want a quick sale also could be they are pissed off at the council and would see it as a nice big GIRFUY

Alexander, Perry, Emilson Cribari, Bocanegra, Argyriou, Little, McCulloch, Macleod (Naismith 77), Black, McKay (Crawford 64), Sandaza (Kyle 64). Subs Not Used: Gallacher, Faure. http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/166917.html 0:45 - Anyone care to explain the foul on the Alexander?

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The wee rangers scrape a draw with the mighty Berwick. Dont like to tempt fate but Elgin and Peterhead are pulling away