I figured it’s about time to start this. I think there’s a very good chance that come January we’re bottom six and lost a cup semi. I’m expecting McKenna to be sold plus I do see both Shinnie and GMS moving on, possibly Shinnie doing a McLean returning on loan but I see GMS moving if we can get some cash. With Ross, Wright, McGinn, and McLelland, DM will see us as having ample cover.

 

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Gleeson and or Forrester punted too, those two haven’t worked out. Tough to argue otherwise. Tansey too. Honestly, the squad needs an overhaul, happy to see the young boys given a run and save any money from exports in January for transfers in the summer.

 

Think we’re also due an offer or two for Joe Lewis. Wouldn’t be surprised to see that in the winter window.

 

Sad to say that i’m writing this season off, shame since Devlin is an excellent signing, what I wouldn’t have given for a player like him over the last few years. Would be happy to see the manager go too, things are stale and we’re going in the wrong direction both in performance and league position. Yesterday, with Wilson stuck in the Rooney wide left role, emphasized that we need fresh ideas and someone with a different set of contacts in the transfer market. DM, it was good while it lasted, but we’re going nowhere fast by the looks of things.

Gary Hooper - out of contract in the summer and not played for Sheff Wed this season.  Superb goal scoring record throughout his career.  Would be a great replacement for Adam Rooney, whether he would be affordable is another thing.  Worth a shot.

hooper has long term groin injury had surgery last year.. seems MLS clubs are after him... get Mulumbu in on loan from celtic and shove shinnie to lb

Stoke fire Rowett. McInnes installed as 4th favourite at 8/1 with Paddy Power (Moyes favourite at 10/11)

 

Was down to fives earlier but now drifted to 25/1.

Nathan Jones even money.

Probably nothing in this one, but just heard that Michael O Halloran is a target. Anyone know what he's up to these days?

 

I’d take him, there’s a good player there. Success at a Scottish team, move to the old firm didn’t work out. Very similar to GMS, and potentially his replacement?

 

Hibs linked with a loan for Morgan, I’d take him. Mulumbu loan would be a good signing. Has he ever played for Celtic??

 

Nathan Jones even money.

 

He's been gone too long

I’d take him, there’s a good player there. Success at a Scottish team, move to the old firm didn’t work out. Very similar to GMS, and potentially his replacement?

 

Not sure what O'Halloran you have been watching but he is only similar to GMS in that they both earn a crust playing football for a living. His one asset is his lightning pace.....which coincidentally is his one way of taking on a defender.......boot the ball beyond and outpace him. Fine if the defender is last man but there's usually cover....GMS operates on a totally different level.

 

Oh and despite being a rabid Dhim (his father is actually a paid member of their coaching staff ffs) he chose to join sevco (pretty disastrously as it turned out though no doubt the £6k/week turned his head a bit) so not really of the moral fibre I'd want at our club...

 

Expect to hear he's on a 'plane to Dubai in tomorrows papers 

tansey gone not sure how we will replace him

He's been gone too long

 

I'll set them up.

You knock them down 

Cheerio Tansey, wasn't disappointed when he signed, thought he'd add technical ability to the midfield, but looked uncomfortable here, like he never believed in his own ability.

 

Usually one out means we're about to add one ( The freed up wages? ) and we're now being linked with someone called Jack Whatmough, but allegedly Rankgers and Ceptic are interested in him as well.

we have paid him off so not really freeing up cash

Had 18 months left on contract. Would guess we have given him 12 months cash up front in order to get him to f@ck off now. He would only have been paid somewhere around our average wage.....at £3k/week we have saved ourselves somewhere in the region of £75k in doing so. Hardly a fortune but should be enough to cover the pay rise Cosgrove just earned himself.

Scouse cunt walks out the door with our cash in his hipper and straight into an eighteen month contract @ St Mirren. 

Heard about that Whatmough link earlier, would have liked Mulumbu from Killie as a permanant signing, but another loan from timothy G.T.F !!!!!!

Not sure what O'Halloran you have been watching but he is only similar to GMS in that they both earn a crust playing football for a living. His one asset is his lightning pace.....which coincidentally is his one way of taking on a defender.......boot the ball beyond and outpace him. Fine if the defender is last man but there's usually cover....GMS operates on a totally different level.

 

Oh and despite being a rabid Dhim (his father is actually a paid member of their coaching staff ffs) he chose to join sevco (pretty disastrously as it turned out though no doubt the £6k/week turned his head a bit) so not really of the moral fibre I'd want at our club...

 

Expect to hear he's on a 'plane to Dubai in tomorrows papers 

 

Whit?! Moral fibre? Should he have turned down the chance to move to a bigger club and advance his career  just because of the team he supported as a boy? That’s a nonsense attitude.

We all have a go at the Rat for joining sevco and did the same to Robertson, Wright and Theo when they joined oldco. Just not something I could do if I were in that position.

 

As for advancing his career.......really? From the minute he got there it was obvious his heart wasn't in it...and sevco realised that pretty sharpish too. Only thing that advanced was his bank balance.

bring nkwali home....

I recall some of you discussing Callum Hudson-Odoi but can't find on which thread. Is this the guy Bayern have bought and loaned back? Whatever his transfer status, this kid is special. Never seen him before tonight.

 

I see Kane just created his own penalty. Cheating cunt. Sneakily clever but still cheating.

Whatmough is an excellent player, would be amazed, yet delighted, if he signed for us, can't see it though.  Doubt he'd go to the Glasgow scum either.  Think it might be an agent angling for a bumper deal before Pompey go up (hopefully).  There'd be hell to pay down here if he left for next to nothing.

Doubt tansey got much from us, afc would have known about the Helen move i suspect.

 

Doubt tansey got much from us, afc would have known about the Helen move i suspect.

 

He will be lucky to get half of what we were paying him down in Paisley. He certainly wouldn't go down to make any less than what he was due to be paid for the rest of his contract here. So we certainly haven't just given him a token pay off. It will be at very least half of what we were due him for the remaining 18 months and as I've already said, probably a touch more to ensure he left (He will have relocation costs, new house etc)

He will be lucky to get half of what we were paying him down in Paisley. He certainly wouldn't go down to make any less than what he was due to be paid for the rest of his contract here. So we certainly haven't just given him a token pay off. It will be at very least half of what we were due him for the remaining 18 months and as I've already said, probably a touch more to ensure he left (He will have relocation costs, new house etc)

 

Not necessarily true. He's rotting in the reserves here and his career has gone to shit. Maybe he jumped at the  chance to join St Mirren and ripped up his own contract. Highly doubt we gave him nothing but the chance to play top level Scottish football and play regularly might just get him one more transfer fee in the future. Going nowhere with us.

If McInnes does end up going to Stoke, I hope we try and get Steve Clarke from Killie.

Not necessarily true. He's rotting in the reserves here and his career has gone to shit. Maybe he jumped at the  chance to join St Mirren and ripped up his own contract. Highly doubt we gave him nothing but the chance to play top level Scottish football and play regularly might just get him one more transfer fee in the future. Going nowhere with us.

 

I agree, although I think there'll be an element of both, with a reasonable compromise. I doubt that there are many players who'd want to sit around the periphary of a club and not play for a large chunk of their careers. The notion of being "due" money from us is a bit ridiculous and I doubt would trump any player's desire to play fitba (unless at the very end of a career, or after a bad dispute). I can only really think of Bobo Balde in recent years who seem to actively want to sit on a bench and collect money. Obviously, the opposite side to that is the agent in the middle, who will want to get his client the best deal, and I would have thought there would have been a decent pay off for the lad that would have been orchestrated by the agent in order to get the deal with St Mirren through. Perhaps an agreement to pay him until the summer (the equivalent of) or some such. Still the cost of a Cosgrove transfer fee though, but freeing up budget.

 

It's another failed signing though, and needs to be recognised as such. Tansey is just another example of a signing that was never going to be good enough (his team-mate Miles Storey being another). It was an unacceptably bad signing. I had watched enough of Tansey to know that he didn't possess the attributes required to be an AFC midfielder presently (he'd have been fine under McGhee, Brown or late Calderwood of course). His movement was poor, his dynamism not there, his left to right tracking when the ball wasn't in our possession terrible. He was like a really shite version of Kenny McLean, without the positional sense to be a Ryan Jack. Capable on the ball of picking a pass and taking a dead ball, but not the fitness, pace and effort to back it up. The thing about Tansey is that he played in our league long enough for us all to recognise that. I believe that Gleeson is in exactly the same position as Tansey, which is why I don't think he should be near our first team. People get tricked by his occasional excellent pass and tidy ball play, but he's so short on movement, strength, positioning and dynamism that he's never a starter. I have no idea what Gleeson was like down the road, so I can't tell if he has the ability to consistently raise his game in those areas, but in all the years of seeing Tansey it was very obvious he couldn't. Hopefully Gleeson will come good, but there is nothing in his play to date to suggest he can (TC mentions he can't last 90 minutes, but I think that this is less of an issue than his 60 shite minutes on the park so far). I think at some point we'll need to make a decision on both Gleeson and Forrester and they'll suffer the same fate as Tansey if there is no improvement. The problem is that - given their lack of game time in the SPL - there won't be a St Mirren waiting to pick them up, so we'll probably have to take a decent hit on both. I wouldn't rule out Gleeson just yet mind, but it's not looking good.

If McInnes does end up going to Stoke, I hope we try and get Steve Clarke from Killie.

They're talking to Nathan jones today (Luton boss). I guess he'll be linked to Luton now XD

Rico, I have to be honest and say the only time I ever saw Tansey for 90 minutes prior to joining us, was when he played against us, and to be fair to him, he looked capable, but obviously you can't judge a player over the course of 2-3 games, he certainly had technical ability, but that would appear to be all he had. He moves on and it has to go down as another poor McInnes signing.

 

As for Gleeson, I think he's made a marked improvement to our performance whenever he's came on, certainly against Hearts and Livingston. He contributes the ball well, is always looking for the ball and made a good impact in both games I mentioned. We still haven't seen enough of him, I'd like to see him get 3-4 consecutive starts, in where he'd last a full game, then we can get a good look at him, like you, I sincerely hope he changes opinions, much like Cosgrove did, because there is definitely a player there, I don't think we missed Ferguson even remotely in the Livingston game there, and when Gleeson came on, he contributed more than Ferguson normally does. Ferguson is a good young player, I am happy he's an Aberdeen player, but other than his goals, albeit important ones, his overall performances have been unnoticeable if we are all being honest. Not to say I think he should be dropped etc... but perhaps he could play the 10 role and maybe Gleeson could partner Shinnie in the deeper roles, that is something that I think could work.