Surprised there doesn't seem to be an existing thread in this vein on this forum (apologies if there actually is and i've missed it), so thought i'd start one - always interesting to see how our young uns are doing elsewhere.

 

CURRENT LOANS:

 

FW Cammy Smith (on loan at St Mirren) - MOVED FROM DUNDEE UTD - END OF SEASON

MF Craig Storie (on loan at St Mirren) - END OF SEASON

FW Lawrence Shankland (on loan at Greenock Morton) - MOVED FROM ST MIRREN - END OF SEASON

DF Scott McKenna (on loan at Ayr United) - EXTENDED TO END OF SEASON

DF Daniel Harvie (on loan at Dumbarton) - EXTENDED TO END OF SEASON

FW Connor McLennan (on loan at Brechin City) - ENDED

GK Danny Rogers (on loan at Falkirk) - END OF SEASON

GK Aaron Lennox (on loan at Raith Rovers) - INJURED - END OF SEASON

MF Dylan Thomas (on loan at Montrose) - END OF SEASON

FW  Joe Nuttall (on loan at Stranraer) - ENDED

GK  Robbie Mutch (on loan at Arbroath) - ENDED

 

Have i missed anyone?

 

 

Left back Daniel Harvie just scored a 20-yard screamer for Dumbarton against Raith Rovers.

 

 

 

 

How has Rogers been getting on?  I presume he'll be allowed to leave in the summer unless Alexander retires and he's happy to be no.2?  Interested to see how he got on against two of his "team mates" in Shankland and Smith today.

Shankland has switched to Morton, and is up against Scott McKenna in about 5 minutes - Ayr v Morton live on Alba.

 

Both starting in their respective sides.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/38782967

McKenna getting a tanking from Shankland. Have to admit, I wasn't massively convinced by McKenna or Shankland when I saw either of them play for the dons. Neither have looked particularly good today.

McKenna getting a tanking from Shankland. Have to admit, I wasn't massively convinced by McKenna or Shankland when I saw either of them play for the dons. Neither have looked particularly good today.

 

 

I thought McKenna acquitted himself quite well when i saw him play, but was never ever convinced by Shankland.

Loan Summary for w/e 28/1/17:

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	START	Falkirk LOSS 1-2	FW	0	-
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	START (sub 82)	Falkirk LOSS 1-2	MF	0	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	START (sub 84)	Ayr Utd WIN 4-1	FW	0	-
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	St Mirren WIN 2-1	GK	-	NO
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	START	Morton LOSS 1-4	DEF	0	-
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	START	Raith Rovers WIN 3-1	DEF	1	-
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	Dumbarton LOSS 1-3	GK	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	SUB 90+4	Berwick WIN 2-1	MF	0	-

 

Loan Summary for w/e 4/2/17:

 

Cammy Smith got an assist in St Mirren's 2-2 draw with Dumbarton, in which Smith, Storie and Harvie all played the full 90 minutes.

 

Danny Rogers had a clean sheet for Falkirk's 2-0 win over Dunfermline, while Lawrence Shankland was a start for Morton's 3-0 loss to QoS.

 

No sign of Scott McKenna in team or bench for Ayr Utd, but Dylan Thomas got a 7 minute runout for L2 Montrose.

 

Finally, Aaron Lennox is still out counting his teeth, after taking a boot to the face in a bounce match back in January and gaining a fractured jaw.

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	START	Dumbarton DRAW2-2	FW	0	-
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	START	Dumbarton DRAW2-2	MF	0	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	START	QoS LOSS 0-3	FW	0	-
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	NO START/NO BENCH	Hibs DRAW 1-1	DEF	0	-
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	START	St Mirren DRAW 2-2	DEF	0	-
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	Dunfermline WIN 2-0	GK	-	YES
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	Dumbarton LOSS 1-3	GK	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	SUB 83'	Stirling Albion WIN 2-1	MF	0	-

 

Shankland played the full 90 for Morton in their 1-0 win over Raith last night (but didn't score).  The phrase below is becoming worryingly common in match reports:

 

Lawrence Shankland then missed a close-range chance

Shankland played the full 90 for Morton in their 1-0 win over Raith last night (but didn't score).  The phrase below is becoming worryingly common in match reports:

 

It's nae really a worry though, is it? It's been obvious for some time that he's nowhere near good enough and won't be here next season. I'd add Cammy Smith to that too and even Storie given he's now 21. Shame like. Good reports though, a sterling effort on your part.

I'd agree with that Rico. Can't see any of them doing anything, and what happens to Rogers in the summer? Surely he'll be let go?

 

Smith scores for St midden

Aye, i think Shankland was a bit of a speculative punt on our part, but doesn't seem to be progressing beyond Championship/L1 level.

 

Not even on the bench today against the zombies.

Cup tied

Cup tied

 

Oh is he?  I take that back then.

Loan Summary for w/e 11/2/17:

 

Smith and Storie both had starts, and Cammy scored one, in St Mirren's 3-2 cup win over East Fife.

 

Yet another clean sheet for Danny Rogers in a 3-0 win over Dundee Utd ( ), another start for Shankland in Morton's 1-0 win over Raith Rovers (but nae goals).

 

McKenna was an unused sub for Ayr's 1-1 cup draw with Clyde, while Thomas wasn't picked for Montrose's game against Arbroath.  Plenty of time yet for the loon though presumably.

 

Aaron Lennox still sucking soup through a straw, and Dumbarton had no games this week so no runout for Harvie.

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	START (90+1')	East Fife WIN 3-2 (cup)	FW	1	-
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	START (69')	East Fife WIN 3-2 (cup)	MF	0	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	START	Raith Rovers WIN 1-0	FW	0	-
		CUP TIED	zombies LOSS 1-2 (cup)	FW	-	-
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	BENCH	Clyde DRAW 1-1 (cup)	DEF	0	-
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	-	NO GAMES	DEF	-	-
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	Dundee Utd WIN 3-0	GK	-	YES
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	Morton LOSS 0-1	GK	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	NO START/NO BENCH	Arbroath LOSS 1-3	MF	-	-

 

Loan Summary for w/e 18/2/17:

 

Cammy Smith cuptied for St Mirren's Challenge Cup 4-1 win over Welsh side TNS, Storie started but had a poor match and was subbed at half time.

 

Shankland had a goal rather harshly disallowed for a handball in the buildup in Morton's 2-2 draw with Falkirk, which also ended Danny Roger's run of clean sheets.

 

Harvie played the full 90 for Dumbarton in their 2-2 draw with Ayr Utd while McKenna warmed the bench.  In League 2, Thomas was also an used sub in Montrose's 1-1 draw with Edinburgh City.

 

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	CUP TIED	TNS WIN 4-1 (cup)	FW	-	-
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	START (45')	TNS WIN 4-1 (cup)	MF	0	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	START	Falkirk DRAW 2-2	FW	0	-
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	BENCH (UNUSED)	Dumbarton DRAW 2-2	DEF	-	-
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	START	Ayr Utd DRAW 2-2	DEF	0	-
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	Morton DRAW 2-2	GK	-	NO
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	Hibs DRAW 1-1	GK	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	BENCH (UNUSED)	Edinburgh City DRAW 1-1	MF	-	-

 

 

Shankland had a goal rather harshly disallowed for a handball in the buildup in Dumbarton's 2-2 draw with Falkirk, which also ended Danny Roger's run of clean sheets.

 

How many teams played in this game?

How many teams played in this game?

 

*cough*

 

Just testing, you understand...  well spotted. 

What's the latest OD?! A few weeks with no update, they all crocked?

 

Not a loan, but it was good to see Ross coming on on Saturday.

What's the latest OD?! A few weeks with no update, they all crocked?

 

Not a loan, but it was good to see Ross coming on on Saturday.

 

Recent events in the real world relegating fitba to a distant 2nd i'm afraid.  I'll see if i can pull some lunchtime updates together 

 

And aye, liked the fact that Ross got a run out, although can't say i noticed how he did with his 4 minutes of fame.

I'll do it a week at a time...

 

Loan Summary for w/e 25/2/17:

 

Smith started for St Mirren's 2-0 win over Ayr Utd (and picked up a yellow card), but Storie and McKenna were unused subs, in Storie's case possibly because he was utter gash the previous week.

 

Rogers and Harvie continued their regular starts for the 2-2 draw between Falkirk and Dumbarton, a score that seems to be a favourite of both clubs at the moment.

 

Shankland also started for Morton in their 1-1 draw with Dundee "10 points" Utd, before being replaced after 74 minutes.

 

In League 2, Dylan Thomas was an unused sub for the 0-0 draw with Forfar.

 

Lennox still crocked.

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet	Cards
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	START (84')	Ayr Utd WIN 2-0	FW	0	-	1 yellow
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	BENCH (UNUSED)	Ayr Utd WIN 2-0	MF	-	-	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	START (74')	Dundee Utd DRAW 1-1	FW	0	-	0
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	BENCH (UNUSED)	St Mirren LOSS 0-2	DEF	-	-	-
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	START	Falkirk DRAW 2-2	DEF	0	-	0
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	Dumbarton DRAW 2-2	GK	-	NO	0
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	QOS LOSS 1-2	GK	-	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	BENCH (UNUSED)	Forfar DRAW 0-0	MF	0	-	0

 

 

Loan Summary for w/e 5/3/17:

 

Cammy started and came close to scoring in St Mirren's 2-0 win over Hibs, with Storie still relegated to the bench as an unused sub.

 

Rogers got back to clean sheets with Falkirk's 2-0 win over QOTS, while Shankland had a week off with no games on for Morton.

 

Harvie scored Dumbarton's only goal of the game with a 12-yard drive in the 86th minute, although only after Dunfermline (mainly Nicky Clark) had hammered 5 past them.

 

Raith had the wierdest news of the week, after their other two goalkeepers joined Aaron (still crocked) Lennox with injuries, and every attempt they made to get an emergency loan in, including offering to permanently sign Lennox from us to free up a loan spot, failed.  In the end Ryan Stevenson went in goal, where he somehow managed to keep McKenna and co to only putting one past him. 

 

Talking of Scott McKenna...

 

 

Sent off with a straight red at the end of the 1st half of Ayr's 3-1 Scottish Cup defeat to Hibs, after mistaking John McGinn for the ball.  In RicoS321's word's:

 

That was an amazing challenge.

 

In League 2, Dylan Thomas finally got a start for Montrose in their Tuesday 2-1 win over Clyde, and by all accounts made the most of it, eventually being subbed in the 84th minute.

 

In midfield all attained good pass marks for energy and commitment with Dylan Thomas also having his best game.

 

He was then rewarded with his usual spot on the bench, an unused sub in Saturday's 3-2 loss to Annan Athletic.

 

Player	Team	Played This week?	Opponents & Result	Position	Goals	Clean sheet	Cards
Cammy Smith	St Mirren (CH)	START (92')	Hibs WIN 2-0	FW	0	-	0
Craig Storie	St Mirren (CH)	BENCH (UNUSED)	Hibs WIN 2-0	MF	-	-	-
Lawrence Shankland	Morton (CH)	-	no games	FW	-	-	-
Scott McKenna	Ayr Utd (CH)	START	Raith WIN 1-0	DEF	-	-	-
		START (sent off 45')	Hibs LOSS 1-3	DEF	-	-	1 red
Daniel Harvie	Dumbarton (CH)	START	Dunfermline LOSS 1-5	DEF	1	-	0
Danny Rogers	Falkirk (CH)	START	QOTS WIN 2-0	GK	-	YES	0
Aaron Lennox	Raith Rovers (CH)	INJURED	Ayr Utd LOSS 0-1	GK	-	-	-
Dylan Thomas	Montrose (L2)	START (84')	Clyde WIN 2-1	MF	0	-	0
		BENCH (UNUSED)	Annan Ath LOSS 2-3	MF	-	-	-

 

Obviously as the season draws to a close, we will see a few fringe players returning from loan, most notably Cammy Smith, Lawrence Shankland, Danny Rogers & Craig Storie. Also Scott Mckenna, who I think may already be back.

 

Anyone reckon we will see any of them here next season? Are they still young enough to continue their development or have they had enough opportunities etc... to impose themselves in the 1st team squad at the very least?

 

Danny Rogers for me, is more than capable of being a number 2 to Lewis, whether or not he wants to be back up though, remains to be seen, I think he made it clear last season that he wants to play.

 

Lawrence Shankland looks like he's probably leaving, never really given an opportunity, despite what anyone says, 3 or 5 minute sub appearances is nowhere near enough to make an impact. But Rooney is our main striker, Stockley has done a decent enough job as back up, and even Miles Storey can't get a run and looks to be offski as well, so really don't see a place for young Shankland, which is a pity, as I was excited when we signed him.

 

Craig Storie, looked a prospect when he played a few times last season, then just fizzled away and eventually been loaned to St Mirren, where even there, he's struggled to start games. Wouldn't mind him staying, but reckon he will go as well. Reminds me slightly of Jamie Masson, looked okay when given the opportunity, then  gone, just like that. Could maybe have benefited playing alongside Jack for a full season, who knows.

 

And last but not least, young Cammy Smith, I feel his best position would be behind the striker, in the 10 role if you like, started off really well at Dundee Utd on loan, then it went south for him, then by all accounts, is a real favourite with the St Mirren fans, could he be kept as a back up to McLean, especially with Pawlett leaving, or should we look for a more experienced name? Who knows, always liked him and perhaps had more hope in him making it.

 

 

I noticed Danny Rogers has been on the bench for Falkirk for the last couple of weeks, anyone know if he's been dropped or if they're just giving their own player a run out?

 

I don't think the rest of them particularly shone at Championship level (except maybe Daniel Harvie?), I'd be surprised if any of them were kept on. Joe Nuttall couldn't even get off the bench for Dumbarton.

I'm just disappointed that this couldn't have been tagged on to the loan watch thread.

I've always liked Smith and hope he is given a chance on his return.

Daniel Harvie won Young Player Of The Year at Dumbarton this year. What I've read is that he played really well for them. He had a bit of a shaky start but quickly found his feet. I think he's a left-back, is he not?