Crazy American Politics

[RicoS321]

5 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

had drag queen performances at assemblies (don’t know what else to call it and it was awkward)

Especially when a middle aged Scottish teacher started screaming and threw his underwear on stage.

[OrlandoDon]

On 14/09/2025 at 10:07, wee toon red said:

Please take this as a genuine question Orlando Don as I think it was you that said it (apologies if it wasn’t):

What specifically is it that schools and colleges over there are teaching that’s “left” and lead folk like Charlie Kirk to think the opposite point of view needs to be put out on campuses across the country?

I’ll add to my other post, overkill no doubt. I was Director of Athletics so was involved with all gender bathrooms, locker rooms, boys on girls teams etc. I was asked to research what other education institutions did as we went through our decision making processes so had a good feel what other schools were doing. I found it hard doing more and more things I didn’t believe in. I was definitely a democrat when I moved to LA and I don’t think I significantly changed in my beliefs, I just think the left shifted so I suddenly became right of center.

[RicoS321]

What is hilarious to see, is the free speech wave going back and forth, with associated frothing and side-taking. It started with the left being defenders of free speech, being provocative in search of more liberal attitudes towards sex and sexuality, always being censored by the right. McCarthyism  another sordid tool. Then the hate speech took over, with words being phased out because they were no longer appropriate leading to speakers at university and so on being "cancelled". Now the "can't say anything these days" folks are reporting people for making jokes about a death, trying to get them fired and shows cancelled. All propelled by the narcissistic machine of social media. You wonder when it will peak?

[OrlandoDon]

10 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

What is hilarious to see, is the free speech wave going back and forth, with associated frothing and side-taking. It started with the left being defenders of free speech, being provocative in search of more liberal attitudes towards sex and sexuality, always being censored by the right. McCarthyism  another sordid tool. Then the hate speech took over, with words being phased out because they were no longer appropriate leading to speakers at university and so on being "cancelled". Now the "can't say anything these days" folks are reporting people for making jokes about a death, trying to get them fired and shows cancelled. All propelled by the narcissistic machine of social media. You wonder when it will peak?

It’s nuts, it’s funny too, the left going mental over what the right are doing when a few months ago the left were the ones canceling the right in similar fashion. Funny is obviously the wrong thing to say, it’s very sad and I dont know what it takes to get out of the finger pointing and having to have the upper hand. Two wrongs clearly don’t make a right but as you say, when does it peak? Biden promoted himself and campaigned as being the president to bring everyone together, that clearly didn’t happen. We really need a middle of the road type to come forward and take on the uniter role. If ever there’s a need for an independent party it’s now.

people are being canceled here, are people being arrested for saying the wrong thing in Britain???

[RicoS321]

7 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

It’s nuts, it’s funny too, the left going mental over what the right are doing when a few months ago the left were the ones canceling the right in similar fashion. Funny is obviously the wrong thing to say, it’s very sad and I dont know what it takes to get out of the finger pointing and having to have the upper hand. Two wrongs clearly don’t make a right but as you say, when does it peak? Biden promoted himself and campaigned as being the president to bring everyone together, that clearly didn’t happen. We really need a middle of the road type to come forward and take on the uniter role. If ever there’s a need for an independent party it’s now.

people are being canceled here, are people being arrested for saying the wrong thing in Britain???

Yes, a certain group in the UK has been deemed a terrorist group for painting a plane, and old ladies are being arrested for supporting them. On the opposing side, a woman is jailed for telling people to burn down hotels. The two are equated by a redundant press. Starmer is as pathetic and weak as Biden was, but he's there because of that, as was Biden. Like Biden, he's there to give the illusion of left versus right, when in reality there is no political left representing the UK. There is only a large right wing, and a bunch of people trying to win over that right wing by placating them and borrowing their talking points. Of course, that right wing is imported, in its entirety from the US, with huge funding from guys like Musk and the other social media guys, and orchestrated by people like Steve Bannon. It's basically political interference, but guys like Starmer are too pathetic to call it out. A British reporter actually asked him yesterday if Britain was no longer a Christian country. A line directly taken from right wing US Christian groups. Instead of ignoring the reporter, he weakly pretended that he was Christian himself. That weakness has immediately opened the door for Christianity being forced into the conversation (directly from the US), and it will keep being nudged until we're back to questioning abortion. Being the weak middle (very much including the BBC) versus the right, there will only be one winner. 

Again, I'm not coming at it from either side, I'm trying to be as objective as I can. In reality, I think that they're all wrong. They're both working against physics, and their stupid arguments will soon wither away when faced with the far larger problems that civilisation is facing. I'd expect a few civil wars when that happens. An example would be climate change and water shortages. The overwhelming majority of migration in the US in the next fifty years will be internal migration. You can see how it struggles to cope with the arbitrary external migration created by its borders, so how does that play out when those borders become state, or county borders? You've timed your move well, doing it before the rush, perhaps, although I expect that a large portion of Orlando will be redundant too. It's very intriguing. The political class will do its utmost to insulate itself whilst pretending it isn't happening. 

[RicoS321]

Whatever we think of Donald Trump, it's fantastic that him and JFK have now cured autism. Great job guys.

[dons8321]

4 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

Whatever we think of Donald Trump, it's fantastic that him and JFK have now cured autism. Great job guys.

Bit harsh on JFK considering he's been dead for 62 years.

[Jute]

4 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

Whatever we think of Donald Trump, it's fantastic that him and JFK have now cured autism. Great job guys.

Basically ignore the advice of numerous scientific studies and trust the word of one man who claimed he had brain worms and another who told folk to drink bleach to avoid COVID.

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, dons8321 said:

Bit harsh on JFK considering he's been dead for 62 years.

That's what they want you to think