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Points from the last 6 games (Broons first 6 in charge)

 

Celtic          16

Aberdeen    13 

Hearts        13

Huns          12

St John        11

Killie            9

Scumdee      8

Well            5

Helen          5

Accies        4

ICT            2

Hivs            1

 

Wouldn't even like to comtemplate what the previous 6 looked like, too scared to look. Massive difference (obviously) and surely if we keep this up over the next 11 games and beat the teams just above then top 6 can be achieved.

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Not knocking our form but we have mainly been beating dross like St Mirren, Hamilton and Hibs.  ICT are on the slide and have been for a month or so and although huge improvement in performances but we only got a point from United and Celtic.  Having said that we would have lost most of these games under the previous regime and you can only beat what is put in front of you.

 

Up coming games vs Well, Killie and Sellickx2 will really show how we've come on.

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And your contribution was what?  :thumbsup:

 

 

:wave:

 

Not sure if you noticed, but McGhee's lack of ability to manage football teams and the way in which he chose to spend the budget has been covered extensively over the past 18 months. It'd be just grand if we could have kept this thread to discussing current league form and the improvement under Broon, without the whole thing descending into a massive fishing trip.

 

Ye dig?

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Amazing what happens when you back a manager  :thumbsup:

 

Stoney min, you've made your point umpteen times, frankly it is beyond the point of being tedious and boring. Keep on track for the benefit of the rest of us. If you feel the need to keep repeating the same point, find yourself a room and lock the door please.

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Not knocking our form but we have mainly been beating dross like St Mirren, Hamilton and Hibs.  ICT are on the slide and have been for a month or so and although huge improvement in performances but we only got a point from United and Celtic.  Having said that we would have lost most of these games under the previous regime and you can only beat what is put in front of you.

 

Up coming games vs Well, Killie and Sellickx2 will really show how we've come on.

 

Very valid points GS. Was just saying the same myself to a colleague earlier.

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Not knocking our form but we have mainly been beating dross like St Mirren, Hamilton and Hibs.  ICT are on the slide and have been for a month or so and although huge improvement in performances but we only got a point from United and Celtic.  Having said that we would have lost most of these games under the previous regime and you can only beat what is put in front of you.

 

Up coming games vs Well, Killie and Sellickx2 will really show how we've come on.

 

This is the crux of it. Let's not start sucking each others dicks just yet. When we've played a round of teams in the league, gathered a good amount of points and genuinely competed against top table opposition then I will be satisfied that we are top 4 and cup final contenders.

 

We have a good run of home games that can see us catch the likes of ICT and Motherwell as they look to have lost momentum. UTD and Killie will be our main challenge if we are looking to get into 4th place and they have a fair bit on us at the moment in term of points/games in hand.

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If we assume that we are not going to catch Killmarnock in that period leading up to the end of February and that none of the teams below us will catch us then we are basically competing with 4 other teams to get 5th spot going into March. Here are the fixtures each team has with possible points;

 

Aberdeen;

 

Celtic (H) 1

St Johnstone (A) 3

Motherwell (H) 3

Kilmarnock (H) 3

Hamilton (H) 3

Hearts (H) 1

Total 14 (Giving us 37 for season)

* Points based on what we might need rather than what is likely

 

St Johnstone;

 

Hearts (A) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

Aberdeen (H) 0

ICT (A) 1

Dundee UTD (H) 1

Huns (A) 0

Total 5 (Giving them 31 for season)

 

ICT;

 

Dundee UTD (H) 1

St Mirren (A) 3

St Johnstone (H) 1

Hibs (A) 1

Total 6 (Giving them 35 for season)

 

Motherwell;

 

Kilmarnock (H) 0

Huns (A) 0

Aberdeen (A) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

St Mirren (H) 3

Celtic (H) 0

Total 6 (Giving them 34 for season)

 

Dundee UTD;

 

Hibs (H) 3

ICT (A) 1

Celtic (H) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

Hearts (A) 0

St Johnstone (A) 1

Hamilton (A) 3

Total 11 (Giving them 37 for season)

 

So with all that in mind, the table looks like this come March 1;

 

5. Dundee UTD  37

6. Aberdeen  37

7. ICT 35

8. Motherwell 34

9. St Johnstone 31

 

All looks reasonably achievable but it depends a lot on us getting a high points haul, basically winning 4 games on the trot sandwiched between draws with Cletic and Hearts at home.

 

 

 

 

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If we assume that we are not going to catch Killmarnock in that period leading up to the end of February and that none of the teams below us will catch us then we are basically competing with 4 other teams to get 5th spot going into March. Here are the fixtures each team has with possible points;

 

Aberdeen;

 

Celtic (H) 1

St Johnstone (A) 3

Motherwell (H) 3

Kilmarnock (H) 3

Hamilton (H) 3

Hearts (H) 1

Total 14 (Giving us 37 for season)

* Points based on what we might need rather than what is likely

 

St Johnstone;

 

Hearts (A) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

Aberdeen (H) 0

ICT (A) 1

Dundee UTD (H) 1

Huns (A) 0

Total 5 (Giving them 31 for season)

 

ICT;

 

Dundee UTD (H) 1

St Mirren (A) 3

St Johnstone (H) 1

Hibs (A) 1

Total 6 (Giving them 35 for season)

 

Motherwell;

 

Kilmarnock (H) 0

Huns (A) 0

Aberdeen (A) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

St Mirren (H) 3

Celtic (H) 0

Total 6 (Giving them 34 for season)

 

Dundee UTD;

 

Hibs (H) 3

ICT (A) 1

Celtic (H) 0

Hamilton (H) 3

Hearts (A) 0

St Johnstone (A) 1

Hamilton (A) 3

Total 11 (Giving them 37 for season)

 

So with all that in mind, the table looks like this come March 1;

 

5. Dundee UTD  37

6. Aberdeen  37

7. ICT 35

8. Motherwell 34

9. St Johnstone 31

 

All looks reasonably achievable but it depends a lot on us getting a high points haul, basically winning 4 games on the trot sandwiched between draws with Cletic and Hearts at home.

 

Easy to see where we'll make or break the top 6 then.  Have to win at least two of St J, Well and Killie games and get a point in the other.  Will be very tough but we have the momentum while others are losing points left right and centre.

 

At the end of the day (sic) we won't get relegated and Europe is probably a challenge to far for Broon so I'd cash in the lot for a chance at getting a trophy to parade down Union Street

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Easy to see where we'll make or break the top 6 then.  Have to win at least two of St J, Well and Killie games and get a point in the other.  Will be very tough but we have the momentum while others are losing points left right and centre.

 

At the end of the day (sic) we won't get relegated and Europe is probably a challenge to far for Broon so I'd cash in the lot for a chance at getting a trophy to parade down Union Street

 

Agreed. Absolute priority this season. We are building a bit of a make shift team just now with all these loans and signings to the end of the season. Can only imagine that its all about a short term push for cup success in one of the two tournaments. That said, top 6 should certainly be achievable.

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