quirie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Calderwood honoured by Dons milestone Dons manager set for 200th game By Charlie Allan Published: 26/11/2008 DECEMBER 20, 2007: Jamie Smith is all smiles after netting for the Dons in the 4-0 win over Copenhagen in the UEFA Cup. More Pictures JIMMY Calderwood is “honoured†he is about to take charge of his 200th game as Aberdeen boss. That’s because he feared he had blown his chances of ever being boss at Pittodrie when he gave chairman Stewart Milne an ear bashing months before he came on board in 2004. Milne forgave him and Calderwood has gone on to become the club’s longest serving manager since Alex Ferguson. Calderwood said: “I’m grateful that the chairman doesn’t bear grudges. “I was still the manager of Dunfermline when I ran into him at a function in Manchester. “I gave Stewart a right earful, asking him when he was going to sort out Aberdeen, who I’ve always regarded as a massive club. “When I walked away from him I remember thinking ‘what an idiot.’ “I had ambitions to manage one of Scotland’s bigger clubs but feared I had blown any chance of that being at Pittodrie. “The chairman forgave me though, and I hope he is happy with my efforts so far.†Calderwood admitted his reign so far has contained a mixture of highs and lows. “I’m proud that I’ve taken Aberdeen into Europe and we have finished in the top six of the SPL every season I have been here,†he said. “But those highs have been countered by the two cup semi-final defeats and CIS Cup loss to Queen’s Park. “I also look on the opening eight weeks or so of this season as a real low period. “It was hard to keep my head up when people were doubting if I was still up to the job. “We are coming out of that dark spell now though, and I’m convinced we will go on to enjoy a good season.†Ferguson was at Pittodrie for eight years and enjoyed the majority of his trophy successes during the second half of his reign. Jimmy laughed when asked if he plans to be around Pittodrie as long. “I reckon the section of Dons fans who have never taken to me would have heart attacks if I ever said that,†he said. “It’s suffice to say I plan to be at Aberdeen as long as they want to keep me here. “I work for good people and have gathered a lot of good people around me. “I’ve signed a three-year contract, and if I see that through, that would take me up to the seven-year mark. “It would be great if I was able to bring some real success back to Pittodrie during that period, although I know I’ve no hope of ever matching what Sir Alex achieved during his time here.†Calderwood has at least restored respectability to Pittodrie, despite having only a fraction of the cash all of his predecessors since Ferguson had to spend on players. “It’s an honour to have lasted as long as 200 games at a club that has very high ambitions,†he said. “The average job expectancy for football managers in England now is about 14 months. “The pressures on managers to deliver in Scotland are just as intense, but I love my job and thrive on the pressure. “I also know the best of my time at Aberdeen has yet to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 http://www.soccerbase.com/managers2.sd?managerid=1589 Jimmy Calderwood's managerial career Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn Aberdeen 28-05-2004 Present 199 83 67 49 Dunfermline 30-11-1999 28-05-2004 202 77 78 47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 "How does that compare with the likes of Levein, McGhee, Mowbray, Williamson, McLeish (pre-Huns), Jeffries, Hughes, etc?", he asks lazily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 “I was still the manager of Dunfermline when I ran into him at a function in Manchester. “I gave Stewart a right earful, asking him when he was going to sort out Aberdeen, who I’ve always regarded as a massive club. “When I walked away from him I remember thinking ‘what an idiot.’ I laughed out loud at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 So he's improving and playing more attacking fitba? If you look at % wins Pars: win rate =38.1% Dons: Win rate=41.7% But at the end of the 06/07 season he had a far better win rate 44%. This season in the SPL we have a 33.3% win rate, factor in the cup games it raises to 35.3%. So Actually his win rate is decreasing at the moment............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I dinna think a was an appropriate smiley there - yet again you should be ashamed Come the end of the season - we'll see who's been proved right Its good to question things, not just to go on faith. Faith... Must be enforced by reason...When faith becomes blind it dies. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 but it's not faith... I know Big Jager knew :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Mizer - as Jager pointed out, I find it strange that you're give a thumbs up that the Dons aren't winning as many games this season. What sick sort of pride do you get from that? Here's a quote from another genius that I think sums it up: It gets started because certain people would do anything to say "I told you so, I was right from the start, nah-nah-nah-nah-nah, me, me, me, all me". Of course that's 200 games they'll have been saying it for on Saturday and they're no closer to being 'proven' right. They're willing to believe anything that shows the club in a bad light, somehow ironically to show they are 'real' fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jimmy Calderwood Aberdeen 28-05-2004 Present 199 83 67 49 just over 41% Craig Levein Dundee Utd 30-10-2006 Present 92 38 30 24 just over 41% Mixu Hibernian 10-01-2008 Present 38 13 17 8 just over 34% Jim Jeffries Kilmarnock 28-02-2002 Present 278 105 122 51 just over 37% Craig Brewster Inverness CT 27-08-2007 Present 56 21 28 7 just over 37% Mark Mghee Motherwell 18-06-2007 Present 62 26 27 9 just under 42% John Hughes Falkirk 31-01-2003 Present 254 108 92 54 just under 43% Bit worrying that despite have a massibly higher budget then all these clubs that jimmy's record isnt that much better - infact its worse if john hughes and mcghee were giving the same amount of money / same budget as calderwood i think it would be quite scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I take it that's for wins? What about draws? Otherwise we'd be finishing below those two every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Bit worrying that despite have a massibly higher budget then all these clubs that jimmy's record isnt that much better - infact its worse But yet we keep finishing above them Those figures will also include cup games and European games presumably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 But yet we keep finishing above them Those figures will also include cup games and European games presumably. First Division for Falkirk (which they won) and only a season and a half for McGhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 yes correct we only spend 250000 this summer - but the problem being that he has spent well over a million and apart from one season we have been pretty average Thats not including our wage bill which is almost double that of which other managers are working with. Not a complaint just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Depends on what you mean by rate? Motherwell walked third last year, Dundee United Reached a Cup Final and in jimmys reign at pittodrie the following teams have all reached cup finals united x 2 Hearts (winners) Gretna Dunfermline Queen of the South Motherwell Dunfermline x 2 Kille Hibs (winners) surely if those teams have the chance to win cups given our budget we should be doing the same if not better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 If thats the case how many times have we been knocked out of the cups by the old firm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 If thats the case how many times have we been knocked out of the cups by the old firm? Our cup record under Jimmy: 04/05 League Cup Exit: Lost first game to rangers 2-0 at home. Scottish cup Exit: Second game losing 4-1 to United. 05/06 League Cup Exit: Lost to Motherwell in the 2nd game. Scottish cup Exit: Lost 3-0 in the second game v hearts 06/07 League Cup Exit: First game defeat to Queens park. Scottish cup Exit: Knocked out by hibs in our first game (replay) 4-1. 07/08 League Cup exit: Horsed 4-1 at Tynecastle by United Scottish cup exit: Humiliated by QotS losing 4 goals in a defensive nightmare, and threw away the chance to play in the UEFA cup. 08/09 League Cup exit: Another defensive nightmare as Killie beat us 4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Granted we fucked up last season but comparing their cup runs with ours doesn't work for me. It does for me, what did the rest do in Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Depends on what you mean by rate? Motherwell walked third last year, Dundee United Reached a Cup Final and in jimmys reign at pittodrie the following teams have all reached cup finals united x 2 Hearts (winners) Gretna Dunfermline Queen of the South Motherwell Dunfermline x 2 Kille Hibs (winners) surely if those teams have the chance to win cups given our budget we should be doing the same if not better? Selective use of stats. One off games as a judge of a team? You know better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Selective use of stats. by JMG Inc. ? Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Selective use of stats. One off games as a judge of a team? You know better than that. you lot did when we beat copenhagen last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 you lot did when we beat copenhagen last year :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbobaggins Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 We judged it on gaining the required points to qualify. Do one lads, the Highland League is waiting for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 We know when we've been Tango'd ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 you lot did when we beat copenhagen last year :clap: Who is "you lot"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 We judged it on gaining the required points to qualify. Do one lads, the Highland League is waiting for you. Yeah but how long was the celebratory conga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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