Aberdeen v St Mirren

[The.Moog]

58 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

I think that's been cancelled in modern fitba. They're supposed to be able to take it down, pirouette and play a sixty yard pass to feet. I was a distance from it, but I didn't think he had the chance to deal with it before the bounce, but would need to see it again.

There’s two fundamental issues with the defending of the ball in the air at the back.

For set plays, long throws & crosses into the box, we just get out jumped and out muscled far, far more often than CH’s should.

For long balls over the top from the opposition half, we get caught out being in the wrong place to deal with it far, far more often than we should. The amount of times the ball sails over our guys heads, or bounces in front of them is ridiculous.

It’s the absolute meat and drink basics of defending and we are constantly, consistently, absolutely shite at it…

Edited 6 hours ago by The.Moog

[The.Moog]

Just watched the highlights - aye Milne was poor at the second but fuck me Devlin, that’s appalling defending. Didn’t close down, shut the angle or try to force him wide, just let the boy run by him.

Very poor…

[RicoS321]

2 minutes ago, The.Moog said:

Just watched the highlights - aye Milne was poor at the second but fuck me Devlin, that’s appalling defending. Didn’t close down, shut the angle or try to force him wide, just let the boy run by him.

Very poor…

Aye, I think he lost his bearings having not expected Milne to make a cunt of it. Should have been right across and forced the guy wide. Not like him.

I also think Mitov wasn't as bad at the third as suggested. It's a really good header down at his feet, as he's running across goal. One of those ones that if he had saved it they'd have said "he didn't know much about it" as they generally just hit you. He was honking for the disallowed goal of course. 

[RicoS321]

22 minutes ago, The.Moog said:

There’s two fundamental issues with the defending of the ball in the air at the back.

For set plays, long throws & crosses into the box, we just get out jumped and out muscled far, far more often than CH’s should.

For long balls over the top from the opposition half, we get caught out being in the wrong place to deal with it far, far more often than we should. The amount of times the ball sails over our guys heads, or bounces in front of them is ridiculous.

It’s the absolute meat and drink basics of defending and we are constantly, consistently, absolutely shite at it…

It's the wind! 

Agreed, we do get caught under the ball a lot. Rubi was really bad for it in the early Thelin period, but Milne has more than his fair share. It is his job to be the aggressive one, so I suppose he is going to make more errors in the air (because he headers it more). I don't think it's down to tactics or anything, just consistent individual errors. Knoester usually lets it bounce, Milne misses it, and Devlin doesn't get distance on them. It's why we need three defenders and not two.

[OrlandoDon]

Disappointing to see we lost the lead twice, but we did ride our luck with the disallowed goal, looked shaky at the back, and mitov didn’t give us an lot of confidence, but we came back from a goal down, good character. Based on how we are playing, 4 wins and 2 draws out of the last 7 league games is more than we probably deserve. We’re just not very good. Yet 5 off third. What if we actually start playing well?

Nice to see lazetic getting a couple of goals, even off the bench, problem is though, and it’s the same for the majority of the midfield/ forwards, it’s hard to get any sort of rhythm/form when you dont always start and we rotate/change everyone around you. Squad rotation is balance, and I dont think we’ve done well with it. 

harsh to criticize Milne, in any other game he wins/clears the ball and we don’t lose the second goal. Boy has had a great season to date. Same with devlin, could have been better on the goal too. Those two and knoester have certainly been our 3 most consistent players.

disappointed to see Aouchiche balloon over the bar at a pretty open goal, he’s been better of late and a goal would have been good for him, and mitov continues to cause concern. Wonder if we are considering a new keeper. I didn’t see it but read polvara could/should have won the ball right before the third goal, as much as he scored and is a popular player, he’s one of a number of mediocre players we have and I’m not worried to lose him to hibs or the likes. We need to sign better.

harsh to criticize JT for making 5 subs and we finish the game with 10. We subbed two in the 89th minute to see out the game, just unlucky there.

Edited 5 hours ago by OrlandoDon

[Panda]

The best thing that happened to us tonight was St Mirren going 1-0 up. We made subs, got Lazetic, Nisbet and Karlsson all on the pitch together, and on another day we win 3-1.

The penalty isn't a penalty (and the referee didn't appear to have been shown any video footage going by the VAR that showed on TV. It looks like he simply looks at two paused images. The video would show Knoester can't do much about his arm placement and does his best to move it backwards.)

Second goal is individual errors. Third goal we're down to 10 men, although we should kill the game more than we did.

It's the second game where Thelin has made changes and improved things, but it's also the second game I think he waited too long to make those changes. For a lot of the game we had five players in our own half passing in a semi-circle while St Mirren sat deep and watched us. 

Keskinen tonight I thought was very good again. I did say in summer I thought he'd be out POTY this season. It's taken him a long time to get going, but I think we're beginning to see a very good player emerging.

[OrlandoDon]

Didn’t realize we hadn’t made our 5 subs, but the issue was we’d used our three sub ‘windows’ so couldn’t bring in a 5th sub. That rule makes no sense when there’s a legit injury, not like it’s time wasting, and we’re forced to play with ten. 

[Blow.Up.Sheep]

For sure the first half performance could have and should been a lot better, it was pathetic.

Yes the final result could have been a lot better, there are certainly positives to take from last night 100%

How many minutes were Lazetic and Nisbet on the park at the same time? how many goals did we score during that time? (jist saying) we also managed to have Lazetic, Nisbet and Karlsson playing together in the same team and we looked much better when we did that.

FFS Jimmy it can be done, jist stop being so fukin stubborn 

thought Mitov was very poor last night 

[InversneckieDob]

Was it not about this time last year 'that' Hibs game happened?

That was the start of a honking run......JT, I don't think, survives another honking run as such a run could see us back in relegation country.