So the day of reckoning is getting closer for the tribunal to set the fee for young Ferguson.

Saw this article in The Sun ( I know, I know I shouldn't) and thought it worthy of sharing.

The boy at Hamilton is surely totally fucking deluded and it appears as if their request is now up to £1.2m 

 

Surely his performances since joining us have got fuck all to do with any price put upon him.

 

Highlights of the article include him sucking The Huns boaby regarding Docherty (correct me if I'm wrong but this is totally different as he was under contract) and also the fact that Ferguson has played all four Europa League games for Aberdeen. So which two games did I completely miss out on in the past few weeks.

 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3068226/lewis-ferguson-hamilton-aberdeen-tribunal-club-philosophy-blow/

I think the Hamilton boy is right to demand as much as he can get and I'd back his right to do so all day long. Whether he gets it or not is another matter but put the shoe on the other foot and we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance.

we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance.

 

which is normally exactly what they do.

 

Is it not a calculation based on age, years of development etc?

Just because the cash giddy guffy hoors pay stupid money for somebody it doesn't mean that then sets the bar for all future transfer activity.

I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs.

 

For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added.

 

That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong.

I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs.

 

For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added.

 

That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong.

 

Think tribunal can also take into account any previous offers made to Accies for Ferguson when setting the compensation.

Performance has didn't diddly squat to do with it. It's down to how much they invested in the player combined with the contract they offered.  It will likely be a couple of hundred k

to be honest, what's the point of trying to second guess these corrupt bastards anyway?

 

Suspensions upheld, suspensions rescinded, docking teams 2 points because it fits into a prearranged "decider" schedule (Hearts), not following up the throwing of an elbow...we'll get fucked over, others don't. It's the way it is and we just have to doff our caps, mumble "thank you very much sir" and be on our way.

I can see them settling the fee at around the £250k mark & tbh i think he's looking worth every penny of that 

Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up. 

 

PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie.

And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor.

Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up. 

 

PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie.

And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor.

 

We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain.

We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain.

 

Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters? Not that it should work of course but would at least be some kind of explanation.

 

Never mind the players though, maybe we should be signing their entire youth development set up?

Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters?

 

They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

 

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy 

They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

 

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy 

 

They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

 

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy 

 

I liked the one borrowed from Bertram Russell around the time Sevco were trying to poach McInnes - "better Red than Dead"

Still no update on this? Meeting began almost 6 hours ago I believe.

I heard it would be tomorrow before we hear

It appears it was decided & the club were happy with outcome, although no fee was mentioned. On official site now.

If we are happy with it then it surely follows Hamilton cannot be. Await next statement from their arse of a chairman

 

Not sure the guy on this forum is ITK,or having a pessimistic guess.Hope he's right http://www.acciesworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1248&start=20

Was a bit of a nothing statement from the club

Possibly a shrewd move by the club not releasing the fee imo.  We clearly have a wee bit of cash to spend this summer and I suspect they are trying to keep their powder dry so other clubs don't know what we have available.  This may yet turn out to be a good window for us as a result.

Hamilton statement does not sound like they are happy with result.

 

https://www.hamiltonacciesfc.co.uk/club-statement-compensation-tribunal/

Quite a rambling statement but clearly not  too happy about the result. Ultimately the rules are the rules and form is not a part of the process. 

I feel for Hamilton, but we've been burnt ourselves with this situation. Absolutely delighted that we have Ferguson.

I’d think somewhere between 100-200k. Absolute bargain from what I’ve seen so far. Certainly doesn’t play like an 18 year old.

I feel for Hamilton, but we've been burnt ourselves with this situation. Absolutely delighted that we have Ferguson.

 

I don't know, it all seemed a little after the event from them. We had similar with Fraser (not with a tribunal obviously), but everyone - quite rightly - was annoyed with AFC for not acting sooner. We clearly didn't realise we had a player on our hands, and then dicked about offering insulting development wages to a guy who was clearly going to be a first teamer. Everyone blamed the club (a few the player), and correctly so. It was a mistake, and the hope is that we've learned from that. Compare that with our handling of McKenna and it's night and day. The minute he showed first team promise we got him nailed down with a respectful offer on a long contract. Hamilton's entire business model is to promote youth and sell on, that they've made such an error is something that their fans should be holding their CEO to account for. The obvious, and only plausible, conclusion is that they didn't think they had a player on their hands like we did Fraser. The tribunal, it sounds, came to the only conclusion it good given player development and contract offers.