Looks like Killie's home form in the SPL continues.

 

Couldn't happen to a better group of cunts. 

 

45:11 GOAL - Richard Offiong

Kilmarnock 0 - Hamilton 1

 

Tousy first half, 5 bookings!

I'll assume that wasn't intended to say I was disparaging inter. I think in the battle of 2 bawbags, 1 of the bawbags beat another 1 of the bawbags.

 

 

None of that was actually aimed at you, i was using your quote as it contained the stat I wanted to talk about.

 

good players and a shit real team made him look good last season combined with the fact man utd (and epl teams generally) have been shit for a couple years so beating them was nothin special.

 

All in all...meh.

 

Think that's a bit harsh, Barca are a very, very good team and although United were shit in the final last year against them, the previous year United put them out at the semi final stage using similar tactics in the first leg as Mourinho and Inter last night.

 

As I said, they're a very, very good team, but there's more than one way to play - and win - a game of football.  Seems some people (not talking about anyone here) who watch teh game, and I include the media in that too, don't appreciate that. 

 

In utterly stereotypical fashion, I'm sure the Italians will have loved that performance last night though.

None of that was actually aimed at you, i was using your quote as it contained the stat I wanted to talk about.

 

Think that's a bit harsh, Barca are a very, very good team and although United were shit in the final last year against them, the previous year United put them out at the semi final stage using similar tactics in the first leg as Mourinho and Inter last night.

 

As I said, they're a very, very good team, but there's more than one way to play - and win - a game of football.  Seems some people (not talking about anyone here) who watch teh game, and I include the media in that too, don't appreciate that. 

 

In utterly stereotypical fashion, I'm sure the Italians will have loved that performance last night though.

 

I don't know, Utd have been far more shit at points during this season than they were in the CL final last season. Even when the epl was at its best it wasn't as good as the media had us believe. Now it's fairly gash and yet we're still told it's the pinnacle. Chelsea and Utd are good, not great but good. Arsenal are quite shit but were close to winning the league. Below that, absolute wank.

 

Point is, yes, there are varying ways to win a game, but if it amounts to the kind of shit on view last night then why pay vastly inflated prices to watch it?

 

 

edit - i don't know how much that was a counter argument to anything BB says rather than just me spouting my own keech

 

1-1 Fulham Hamburg. Fantastic goal by Davies.

I don't know, Utd have been far more shit at points during this season than they were in the CL final last season. Even when the epl was at its best it wasn't as good as the media had us believe. Now it's fairly gash and yet we're still told it's the pinnacle. Chelsea and Utd are good, not great but good. Arsenal are quite shit but were close to winning the league. Below that, absolute wank.

 

Point is, yes, there are varying ways to win a game, but if it amounts to the kind of shit on view last night then why pay vastly inflated prices to watch it?

 

The short answer is don't.

 

No matter what level of football you watch you get good games and bad. That's the game and is surely one of the reasons we all love it, it can be such an unpredictable game so much of the time.

 

Perhaps another reason it seems worse these days is how much it's hyped up by Sky and other media outlets. It's something I never quite understand with people though; that they seem to be annoyed (i'm not saying you are, by the way) that the EPL isn't as good as Sky say it is etc... who lets Sky make their mind up for them?  Take the game as you see it, that's all it comes down to really. 

 

"Arsenal are quite shit"... relatively shit. Relative to United, Chelsea and Barca, perhaps.  They'd rip most teams in Europe to shreds. If people genuinely think the only good teams in the continent are those three then I'm afraid that's more a sign of Sky and it's propaganda than anything Richard Keys and Andy Gray can ever peddle.

2-1 Fulham! Gera!

Get in there Fulham!

Fulham in the final! Incredible!

Good on them.  Have to say though European Football is shit these days though! 

Good on them.  Have to say though European Football is shit these days though! 

 

Absolutely. Thats what its all about. You can keep your Man Uniteds, Arsenals, Chelseas, Madrids and Barcelonas of this world. Thats what football is about. Well done Fulham, Roy Hodgson, Al Fayed and the Fulham fans!

Absolutely. Thats what its all about. You can keep your Man Uniteds, Arsenals, Chelseas, Madrids and Barcelonas of this world. Thats what football is about. Well done Fulham, Roy Hodgson, Al Fayed and the Fulham fans!

 

Agreed, apart from Al Fayed.  He can fuck off!

Agreed, apart from Al Fayed.  He can fuckhttp://www.donstalk.co.uk/messageboard/Smileys/dt_smileys/thumbup.gif off!

 

Aye, maybe right enough! 

Agreed, apart from Al Fayed.  He can fuck off!

 

you're just jealous of that shirt he's wearing tonight...

Good on them.  Have to say though European Football is shit these days though! 

 

That game tonight was brilliant. Two teams who really really wanted it, no fear, no ten men behind the ball, just a good old fashioned game of football. I like Hodgson as well, he's a cracking manager so I'm pretty chuffed for him too.

Liverpool 2-1 Atl. Madrid in extra time, Forlan with the goal :-)

That game tonight was brilliant. Two teams who really really wanted it, no fear, no ten men behind the ball, just a good old fashioned game of football. I like Hodgson as well, he's a cracking manager so I'm pretty chuffed for him too.

 

It was a good game. Not as good as Inter v Barca first leg though 

you're just jealous of that shirt he's wearing tonight...

 

I'm not even watching it.  Is it anything to do with the Duke of Edinburgh killing Princess Diana?

 

Good to see Liverpool currently heading out.

It was a cracker, will try to find a pic of it.

Liverpool 2-1 Atl. Madrid in extra time, Forlan with the goal :-)

 

brilliant aint it?! Benitez must stay - Mascherano at RB, Johnson at LB, and the three subs he's brought on? El Zhar, Pacheco, Degen.

 

Cannot believe he is being touted for Juve/Real jobs.

brilliant aint it?! Benitez must stay - Mascherano at RB, Johnson at LB, and the three subs he's brought on? El Zhar, Pacheco, Degen.

 

Cannot believe he is being touted for Juve/Real jobs.

 

If Jamie Carragher makes up part of the spine of your team you're asking for trouble.  Considering the prick signed about 293 defenders in five years and not one was better than "Carra" it suggests he's not got much of a clue.

 

Still, he fits in with the victim mentality so the Scousers love him. Still.

 

I want to know why they got a girl to model their new kit and not one of their big name players...

Was at craven cottage again last night. Absolute belter of a bounce and atmosphere. I was confident fulham would do it as their home form is pretty formidable. The whole stadium was up on their feet for most of it and singing. Anyone who has been to the cottage will know this is a rare sight i was in the putney end this time which usually the neutral stand and i'm suprised it didn't kick off. Obviously a few hamburg fans in the stand and a good number of fulham fans got lifted for telling the stewards and coppers to do their job and get rid of them. Now have the dilemma of thinking about going to the final. Seems like too good of an opportunity to miss.

Oh and finally.  diego oh oh oh, diego oh oh oh. He comes from paraguay, he made the scourers cry (3 times )

Was at craven cottage again last night. Absolute belter of a bounce and atmosphere. I was confident fulham would do it as their home form is pretty formidable. The whole stadium was up on their feet for most of it and singing. Anyone who has been to the cottage will know this is a rare sight i was in the putney end this time which usually the neutral stand and i'm suprised it didn't kick off. Obviously a few hamburg fans in the stand and a good number of fulham fans got lifted for telling the stewards and coppers to do their job and get rid of them. Now have the dilemma of thinking about going to the final. Seems like too good of an opportunity to miss.

Oh and finally.  diego oh oh oh, diego oh oh oh. He comes from paraguay, he made the scourers cry (3 times )

 

  If you're gonna attempt to rip the piss at least get it right eh?

Edinburgh derby the day's early kick off.

 

"There's no doubting Michael Stewart's ability but I don't think he'll be at Hearts next season. He hasn't got over playing for Manchester United." BBC Scotland pundit Allan Preston.

 

2-1 Diet Huns, in injury time

Bravo, Jose Mourinho for dousing Barcelona myth

 

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Being Jose Mourinho, he did not stop at defeating the team. He beat the club.

 

The most significant aspect of Mourinho's victory over Barcelona was that it removed, once and for all, their pretensions to football's moral high ground.

 

Mourinho knocked Barcelona from the mountain top by revealing them to be cheats and bad sports. No worse than the rest, of course, but no different: and different is what Barcelona have always claimed to be.

In doing this, he settled a score from February 2005, when Chelsea lost 2-1 at the Nou Camp after Didier Drogba had been wrongly sent off by referee Anders Frisk.

 

Mourinho was banned and described as an enemy of football by UEFA for saying he saw Frank Rijkaard, the Barcelona coach, enter Frisk's room at half-time when Chelsea led 1-0.   

 

He was wrong. From his vantage point, he could not have witnessed such an intrusion; but that does not mean it did not happen. Indeed, the official UEFA report contains evidence from the stadium supervisor that Frisk had to order an agitated Rijkaard back to his dressing room three times.

 

Yet, while Mourinho was demonised in UEFA, Rijkaard later received the UEFA president's medal from Lennart Johansson for his dignified conduct over the affair.

 

Barcelona were very dignified when Chelsea players behaved in poor fashion after last season's semi-final defeat, too; then again, dignity is more easily maintained when the referee has as good as given you the game.

Forget the halo

 

It has allowed Barcelona to perpetrate a myth. Not just that they are a superior football team, but a superior club, too. And while Inter's victory over two legs should not harm our regard for Barcelona's football, which remains the finest in the world, we will brook no more lectures from the Barcelona club. They turned the sprinklers on.

 

That is all you need to know about the class of the superior Catalans. As Inter happily, harmlessly, let loose in front of their own fans – banished to the gods, as always at the Nou Camp – a faceless Barcelona employee doused with powerful jets of water the one quarter of the pitch in which the visitors stood, while the loud broadcasting of the club song attempted to further drown their celebrations.

 

The unexpected shower was a spiteful gesture and certainly no accident. No water fell anywhere else. Yet, having already seen Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes confront Mourinho for running to Inter's supporters at the end, it was no surprise.

 

There has always been a spoiled, dark side to Barcelona. Rijkaard, post president's medal, berated the Italian referee Stefano Farina on the field for five minutes at the end of a match in the 2006-07 Champions League campaign, after his team had drawn 2-2 at home to Mourinho's Chelsea.

 

That night should have been the end of Barcelona's claim to elevated ideals, but beautiful football is an effective masking agent and the brilliance of players such as Lionel Messi and Xavi has allowed the arrogance to continue unchecked.

 

Daniel Alves, the dirtiest player in last season's Champions League and a serial diver during the semi-final matches this season, was even allowed to describe the one-shot-in-94- minutes win over Chelsea 12 months ago as total football.

 

There was further delusion this year. 'The champions fall like a champion,' dribbled a headline in Sport newspaper, ignoring the fact that they also cheat like champions, if Sergio Busquets's fake facial injury, complete with sneaky glance through his fingers to make sure it had achieved the desired red card, is anything to go by.

 

If Barcelona are so good - and they are - what frightened Busquets about playing Inter off the level? It proved a fatal error anyway.

 

Inter Milan had played six games with 10 men already this season and had lost only one of them.

And so to Madrid...

 

They could not stop Barcelona winning on the night, but prevented them from progressing and in 180 minutes there were only 29 when Barcelona were leading the tie, compared to 132 minutes for Inter Milan and 19 minutes when the tie was a draw.

 

As for Mourinho, aside from turning the tables on Barcelona, he proved once more what really makes him special: he is the first manager that people would pay to watch manage.

 

He is the Barcelona of bosses, in fact; and there is no greater compliment.

 

Interesting take on Wednesday's game.  The do-good attitude of Barca is rather nauseating I have to say