RicoS321

Keeping him fit for the big games. Extremely surprised to see Hendry ahead of Gallagher and Hanley ahead of McKenna. Not much need for those changes.

Why the fuck would anyone elevate those trivial irrelevancies over the racism incident?

Jesus fucking Christ.

Fuck sake, we're not talking about about somebody being a dick as a player, we're talking about the gaslighting of our black player. The two are poles apart. To dress that up as fans getting sucked into the emotion of things is gaslighting in itself. It's ridiculous that these things need to be explained in the 21st century. To be clear, it's not something that directly affects me, and I believe that Brown made an error of judgement, but if the club are projecting itself as a club that stands against racism - and it does - then it's a fucking humongous elephant in the room to leave unaddressed.

A good interviewer/journalist would be presenting evidence to Tam McManus to prove that he's talking absolute shite. A quick Google images will give you evidence of more than one meeting of the two. I'd be highly skeptical if it was suggested that the training ground and beach photos were from the only two meetings between the pair too. A conspiracy theorist would be asking why either McManus is playing down the relationship, or Glass is to McManus. The point is one of process at AFC - I see absolutely nothing wrong with Glass as a person or coach. If Cormack is friends with the player, or has earmarked him for a while then he should have removed himself from the process and let others give an objective view. Somebody asked on twitter or somewhere if fans would have had an issue if we'd appointed another up and coming manager from the premiership or somewhere and I think that gets to the heart of the issue. The obvious difference is that we'd know that candidate was part of a balanced process without prejudice. Was Glass elevated beyond other candidates because of his relationship with the manager? In my opinion, yes. There's further evidence too. Listen to the interview with Cormack after Glass' first interview. He says that they whittled down to a shortlist after identifying that the manager had to be "emerging talent". That's a serious case of setting the criteria to fit the decision rather than the other way round. It's as arbitrary as saying that they need to be foreign, or not foreign. There are zero specific attributes that a manager that is an emerging talent has that a manager with experience couldn't. I'm guessing the next item on the filter was "pictured on a mountain bike at Hampden". That's it guys, it's been a fair process, but only one candidate fits the profile of being usable in a number of window based puns. Again, my questions are not with Glass, they're with the chairman and our Atlanta relationship. There can be zero defence of the Hernandez debacle, it was a signing double anything we'd done this century. That is all we have to go on with the Atlanta link and it's extremely important that fans raise questions when things aren't transparent. We've just been through a process, over a sustained twenty plus year period, where our previous chairman tried to move us to ridiculous parts of the city to the extent that we had actual fans of the club (and lots of them) saying "we just need to get on board" with a decision to move our club out of the city to the most inappropriate location possible. We now, hopefully, can all see that for the ridiculous decision it was. The Glass appointment isn't in that realm of course, but the relationship with Atlanta is something that none of us understand and isn't transparent. None of us understand the long term goals of the link, how it benefits AFC and in which direction its bias leans. It's critical that fans keep raising these points, and critical that people recognise the difference between questioning a process and questioning a manager. In my view, and based on the evidence, the process was biased. If Atlanta weren't in an English speaking country, we'd be disparagingly comparing it to a Romanov appointment from his base in Lithuania. I don't think we're close to that of course.

Hate to shite on yer fash, but yer talking out of yer airse. McKenna played 3.5 games for us this season. Won two, lost one and were drawing in the game he was subbed at half time. At the very worst we'd have been six points behind where we are now. He had little bearing on the games we won from memory. His head was up his covid airse as I recall. Scoring one goal this year is clearly the issue.

The place is riddled with Hun though, isn't it?

The England boy won't join until after the Euros and our assistant manager will weirdly be playing against us and others for the remainder of the season. Glass will have had his tests in preparation, and he's got family over here so will have at least temporary accommodation after his two week quarantine. I'm guessing his family were all geared up ready for him to move. We've got plenty of time, so I'd expect him to be in for the next league game. After that, ten remaining fixtures for him to get his ideas in to practice.

I agree, Glass comes across very well. A bit like cathro did at hearts. The problem we have is that Cormack has shrewdly (sort of) picked up on the things he knows that dons fans will want to here. It's like a checklist. The "winning in Glasgow" mantra being trotted out and so on. They're largely meaningless slogans, the sort you'd associate with politics. It's good to have a strategy of course, and I like that Cormack is keen on that. I was far more interested in Glass' chat about mowbray, which was intriguing. I like him so far. He's intelligent and studious.

Yep, believe he's one of the best defenders in the league, statistically. Wouldn't surprise me to see him get a bigger move if forest aren't up to it.

You must have been watching a different season to the rest of us. Our team was at its best this season after McKenna left (not because of though). One of the positive things about this season is how well our defence coped with him leaving. Our problems are blatantly further up the park than McKenna. McKenna's best attributes were his aggression and ball winning, however they were actually over and above what was required for the majority of games in the SPFL. Taylor has proven more than adequate in those areas. McKenna rarely produced any great runs forward, nor incisive passes, so those weren't missed. He's definitely the type of player that could take us a level up, but he simply wasn't a required element of a team that could finish third in the league, which is the part we've struggled with this season. McKenna would have had zero impact on our goalscoring abilities.

I don't think it will happen that way though. It's putting him in an awkward position. It wouldn't look good for him not to take charge straight away (like McInnes did when he took over from Brown - was supposed to wait until the summer, but insisted in coming in after the split). It'll certainly be a good test of his character. One thing in his favour is that Hornby is returning from injury and prior to his injury there was a brief glimpse that he was getting up to speed. Kamberi needs someone to work off - he's largely useless without that - and I think of we can get one or two goals the pressure will be off the players a little.

I agree. Not as player obviously, but as assistant. I think it's bizarre that we're getting in one third of a management team earlier than the rest. It's a recipe for disaster. First impressions of the players are hugely important as we learned with McGhee. Glass will need all the support he can get from day one. If there's any dissent from staff or players he'll struggle to get a handle on it without help. Hopefully he'll get a smooth ride. I'd prefer to see him in the stands until his assistant, at least, can join him.

Aye, but the chairman has a mate, who has a mate who's mates with him so he's in.

We had no problems, as a club, signing goodwillie.

Got to be a sacking for Nielsen. Worst result in the cup history I'd say, even despite hearts being championship pish.

I suggested it. We're talking about racism here, it goes beyond Logan and Brown. I think it's the right thing to do. Let me be clear, I don't have an issue with Brown and I don't think his actions at that time are indicative of his person now. I just think that if you're serious about tackling racism in the game then something has to be said. I'd be entirely fine with Brown not apologising, but not if we're going to continue to take the knee and involve ourselves with the kick racism out campaigns. It has to be one or the other, otherwise it's just tokenism and a waste of everyone's time. I'd rather AFC didn't bother with it if when it comes to the crunch they just bury it.

Yep. None of the other chairman's mates new anything about managing a football club. What was he supposed to do?

Aye, that fucking reeks of the Tims. Next it'll be the AFC family. Fucking horrendous chat.

Apologies, I posted before reading, I forgot my actual point! What I take issue with is the instruction of "let's get behind" or "everyone needs to get behind". If people have got valid concerns then they absolutely need to raise these. It's vitally important. I'm happy for us to disagree, I'm not happy to be told what to think. It's that sort of shite that had us on the path to a stadium in Aberdeenshire, six miles from the biggest public transport hub in the region. People told that we all need to get behind something. Whether it's brexit, independence, the dons manager it's massively important that people with issues voice them, not let themselves be drowned out and respond to evidence as it makes itself available. One of the biggest problems with not having due process in place is that this will happen again. Just as it did under Milne. Not only that, but if the message from the top is that it's fine to sign yer mates, then that propagates down the way. I here broony already has a few of his Dubai chums lined up to join the party (obviously, I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea).

Fair enough. If you think there are no questions to be answered with regard to the appointment and our relationship with Atlanta, that's fine. I think that's either an exceptionally naive, or exceptionally partisan position to take based on the glaring evidence.

Absolutely, there are plenty of ways it could help. Objectively, though, it's a biased decision. He's been elevated above others because of his relationship. I don't know for certain that he was lined up, it's speculation on the evidence. I have a very strong suspicion. It had been rumoured as far back as two seasons ago from memory, that wasn't guesswork, they're good friends. The classic name dropping of Fergie, to highlight the importance of the relationship between the manager and the chairman was a good tactic though, I have to admit. I think you'll struggle to find anyone who thinks the decision wasn't made before sacking McInnes. I hope he gets his assistant in asap and uses the time available this season to good effect. Despite the massive questions about the process, the nepotism and our questionable links with Atlanta, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do.

Fair enough. I'd have thought the attributes you mention would work the other way for him! In fact, those are the reasons I would want him here. Edit: I should add that it's completely understandable for you not to discuss the racism issue, but it's not acceptable for AFC to pretend it didn't happen. I hope a lot of dons fans find it unacceptable too and I hope Logan makes his thoughts public too (unless he isn't bothered by it).

Grow up. We don't need to be told to get behind a manager, we're not fucking morons. We can objectively look at a situation and call out the glaring issues that present themselves. We don't have to blindly support every single decision in some partisan unquestioning manner. Glass will get everyone's support. There's nothing that he's done wrong.

He's employing his mate in a preordained process. I can almost guarantee that Glass was lined up to be manager the minute Cormack walked in the door. There was no process from our process guy, there was simply a sign off at board level. He didn't make an educated appointment, he made a heavily biased decision. It's exactly why we needed a director of football. It might work out. He comes across well.