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Is it not just that Brown is out (replaced by Campbell)? Otherwise same team with Gallagher in for McRorie

Reckon there'll be a decent turnout tonight. We always beat Hibs before a lockdown in my experience. In the ballot for boxing day and the Huns. Doubt they'll actually occur.

I've had three doses of Pfizer, if it helps the discussion. If you're not discussing herd immunity then why not? If your government is putting arbitrary figures on when/when not to allow people to travel, then why on earth would you accept that without questioning those arbitrary figures? The lack of nuance and critical thinking in your argument is disturbing.

What's your country at risk of? What's the required level of vaccination for herd immunity?

"Anti vaccers" have not shut down borders, your government has. Last time I was in the hospital it was filled with selfish fat people who refused to lose weight and put massive strain on hospital staff (and the beds). Don't get me started on the bed-hogging poor, with all their ailments.

He had to use someone for the joke. Ojo's in enough bother, so there weren't many left to choose from. Bates can take it.

That's pretty much what they've done all season with Boyle.

That's fitba cancelled again. Conspiracy.

Fuck that, he's too small, he'll never make it.

Longstaff loan terminated apparently. Not surprising. Devlin set to get another contract extension according to the record. It's always good to have a professionally injured player that the other injured players can look up to.

Beautiful. That's the kind of service we've come to know and expect.

Cool. I'll meet you there. I'll get them in.

You should. How much space do you think the internet has left? It's bloody vandalism.

Aye, I hate those odd numbers, like 17,000.

Fuck sake Jute Scotland to play Ireland, Ukraine and Armenia (for the first time) in the next nation's league.

Is that a downward taper? Looks more like an upward one with a hook on the end. Good for the rain either way.

To be honest, I'm just disgusted that we can't use the existing Calvin Ramsay thread.

Fucking maroon? Corporate view of the sea? A fucking offset tunnel? Disgusting. Great ground though.

I wonder if we'll be able to take the pillars with us from the mainer?

The main stand Edit: to clarify that was a joke.

Booooo. Fucking Hun. Should never wear the red shirt again.

But we've never had average crowds anywhere near 17K, even when we were good. Is this just realism? Should we be spending £16M to cater for the fans that only turn up for the big games (and sometimes not even then)? With the nation's league, there are going to be few friendlies and the opportunity to host a Scotland game is extremely limited (maybe once every five years?). Unless we were looking at 30K seats, there is no reason to hold Scotland games at a new pittodrie over tynecastle or Easter road. We definitely shouldn't be including that measure in our decision making. I also doubt that Elton John will be refusing a gig because of the extra 3K either, he'll either play in Aberdeen or not, and that occurs once a decade (and fuck that anyway). In both situations, we'd be paid for ground rental rather than ticket sales anyway. I get the concern about being season ticket focused, but I don't think that you're point about waiting until a Friday is an issue. Most people will know whether or not they can go to a game in advance (I'll hand my ticket to my mate if I'm not going to be at the next game for example - before QR codes of course!) and will likely want to cash in on selling their ticket early. There's an offset there. However, the biggest problem I envisage that I hadn't considered until your post was not necessarily that people can't afford a ticket, but that those who can afford tickets but don't usually buy a season ticket will buy one so that they can go to the bigger games. The option to formally sell your unused ticket, coupled with scarcity, creates an apartheid between those who can afford to buy, say, 4 tickets and those that want to go to the majority of games but can't afford a season ticket. It returns a situation a lot like the DNA points scam. I could simply buy a ticket for a decent seat and sell it every week until a big game and then go to that. I'd like to see a way to counteract that so we can prioritise fans going to games (say if you attend <12 games per season you can only buy a half season ticket or some such). It's a difficult balance between forcing scarcity to get bigger crowds and being realistic as to our average crowds. I think 16K will result in too scarce a product, but 17K might produce the happy spot of having lots of unsold tickets regularly. For some weird reason, I'd feel happier if it was 18K. I can quite believe the £16M figure, you're talking an entire deck the length of the South to get an extra 4,000 seats. It's not a small thing. A sheet of OSB is around £1M today. I don't think it'll actually go ahead any time soon anyway. Maybe the reduced capacity is just to butter us up for a reduced capacity pittodrie when this latest idea gets booted out.

Looks cool. I mean, it's no Brockville, but it's nice.

A good point. I would say that their motive is affordability - first and foremost - however. I think you'd have to offset the missed income on those attendances versus the cost associated with having empty seats for the overwhelming majority of games. The four games in 18-19 would have resulted in 9k seats of missed revenue (assuming 17k capacity). Maybe £250k? That could be recouped quite easily if other fixtures increased attendance due to scarcity as per the club's plan. I'm not convinced that the group stages would actually return us the type of crowd we think either. They would if we weren't regularly getting there of course but then if we regularly got to that stage I could easily envisage a drop off in popularity unless we get a perceived "big side". I just don't think we're that well supported. One thing that did bother me was the re-selling of tickets. A great concept, but I have a feeling that all tickets will then be tied to your electronic device, and you won't be able to pass on to a friend for nothing. I'm guessing if it's just a small admin fee that might be okay, but it's free just now.

Agree about the capacity. I think 17k would be a good size, and infinitely better than a 20k stadium in Aberdeenshire. Unless the plan was always to trick the council into proposing a better location, you have to wonder about the Westhill abomination. It really is the most deluded plan on the planet. Can't believe the number of dons fans who thought it was even remotely acceptable. The ticket thing is a bit of a non-issue these days. You just buy it on your phone and walk in scanning the phone. By 2025 it'll be 99% of purchases.