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From what I was told, Aberdeen have already spoken to Robinson. But, you may have noticed he isn't currently the manager of Aberdeen, so take of that what you will.

Oh I totally agree, which is why I think Leven shouldn't be in the conversation unless he is a) being paired with an experienced assistant manager and being given help from all areas of the club (what should have happened with Glass), or b) becoming an assistant with perhaps a long term strategy to eventually take over. On Gisvol, it was slightly tongue in cheek on account I don't think we've spoken to him and may have no plans to, but he does tend to make a decent stab of things in his first 18 months and would have the experience required for Leven, so it wouldn't be the worst idea. As said in a previous post, I don't think that should necessarily be taken as gospel. If Askou and Robinson don't want it, who are the alternatives that meet that criteria? I certainly didn't hear Lutz saying the sporting director should have knowledge of Scottish football. And you can pair a foreign manager with a Scottish assistant.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/markus-gisdol-open-aberdeen-next-36529995.amp I'm sold. Gisdol for 18 months to help smooth the path for Peter Leven to take over permanently. Teach him how to implement his gegenpress then hand over the reigns. (I'd suggest, if no approach has been made at this stage despite Lutz and him knowing each other, there probably won't be one. But then I don't know how Lutz works.)

I wonder if that was a comment Lutz might regret saying, because it would limit his options if he stuck to that. And it also means it would likely be someone Lutz hasn't worked with before. I think a happier medium might be a Scottish assistant with someone Lutz knows. Although, Stephen Robinson is very much on the radar, as is Askou, so maybe at the time he said it he was confident he could get one of them. Begs the question, what would be the better education? Manage, say, a Morton or Airdrie, or be assistant to an experienced manager, working with a spitting director, and handling bigger names and expectations? It is kinda what's happening at Celtic with Maloney and O'Neill. Maloney I'm sure could get a smaller job as his own man. Gisdol himself gave up an early managerial role to be assistant to Ralf Rangnick at Schalke.

Markus Gisdol is interesting. Has spent the majority of his career taking over clubs battling relegation and turning them around, but hasn't had any long term success at a club. His most recent job in Turkey, he only took charge for eight games and failed to win a match, but I was reading the reaction of fans and they mostly said he never stood a chance with their squad. Has experience of some huge clubs (Hamburg, Kaiserslautern, Koln, Lokomotiv Moscow), is a free agent and has worked with Lutz before. I'd like to think we're grooming Leven to be the manager eventually one day, but maybe be needs a term as assistant manager first. Bring in Gisdol for 18 months before it inevitably goes tits up, then Leven can finally get the top job.

Disagree, think he's actually played very well in spells, but has been woefully mismanaged. He's been over played (compare his minutes to Graeme Shinnie), he's been constantly shuttled into different positions, and has had little to no chance to development any sort of partnership with anyone.

Lyall Cameron? Rangers prepared to loan him out, but could we coax them, and him, with a permanent transfer bid? They haven't actually paid Dundee for him yet, and he's not really playing under Danny Rohl.

Wasn't really referring to your post, and absolutely he should be dropped if his form isn't good enough, like you would expect in any other position. But there's others that want him to hand back his SC winners medal and do a walk of shame down union street.

Good to see we've all stood by our cup final hero Mitov through some rocky times. Should do his confidence the world of good.

That's 12 players min, and that's before you shoehorn Allan Campbell in there.

Thought we were helped by Rangers being pretty bang average to be honest. Barron basically took on our midfield by himself. Clarkson gave us some impetus late on, good to see someone running forward with the ball, but Lazetic and Karlsson were both a waste of time. We played three at the back, presumably to get the wing backs high since we had no width, but Gyamfi and Devlin aren't players who are going to take on the full-back. Whoever wins the league this season, it'll be the poorest champions I can remember, and yet we've lost 4/5 to the top three, and 10/11 to the top six.

Despite everything, it's two corner kicks that's the difference. If we just did the basics right we could have been frustrating them while growing into the game. Think the three at the back is again a waste of time, and our midfield are coming so deep we've six players all in the same area so can't break. Armstrong going on little dribbles outside our own box is achieving what? Polvara into midfield, Armstrong further forward. I'd actually go 4-4-2.

Appears to be a 3-4-1-2. I'm actually liking the two up front.

That's the end of any suggestion he should get the job permanently.

Don't think he's actually been mentioned in the thread, but Miovski is on the bench for them.

Thankfully not. Although a man many are punting for the Dons job - Stephen Robinson - is the one signing him.

That looks like a 4-3-3 to me, or a 4-2-3-1 if Polvara is playing a bit further forward. Kjartansson and Bilalovic both start. Looks like Aouchiche hasn't made it. Clarkson still being on the bench interesting, maybe wasn't just a Thelin thing there.

Some invitations you don't need to accept...

I have good and bad news for you. Allan Campbell is about to sign for a Scottish Premiership club...

Yeah it used to be a Dons-friendly pub. I was there for a Gothenburg anniversary night - Peter Weir and John McMaster were the special guests, they did a Q&A and the pub played the full game on the TV - and it was packed that night with Dons fans. I always remember Kevin Bridges standing at the bar ordering a pint, looking round bemused as to why so many Aberdeen fans were in. But, last few times I've been there to watch a Dons game, you can count on one hand how many fellow fans are there. Think the pub sponsored the Aberdeen Glasgow supporters team or something back in the day, which was why they encouraged other fans to go. Might be a supporters bus or two that stops there pre-match though so might be worth going past, but can't guarantee it. Especially for a midweek match. When I first moved to Glasgow, every Dons fan seemed to go to Hubbards, a decent bar in its day. I remember the night we got past Dnipro, some bounce at the final whistle that then spilled onto the streets, was like being back in union street. But now sadly it's changed owners, is called the French Horn, and only shows NFL and the Six Nations. A fucking liberty. But yeah, not sure where everyone goes now. I'm not even bothering to go to the game - £37 when it's -6 outside, and us playing like we have been, think I'll stick the heating on and watch from home. I did briefly consider changing my mind thinking Leven might get a new manager bounce, but prob left it too late now.

Watched the Lutz interview with RedTV. A summary:- - Performances over last four games were pivotal in deciding to sack Thelin. - Personality of next manager: He needs to "reflect a certain emotion and a certain fire, which I think is extremely important to get this team going and get the players behind you" - Won't put time scale on appointing new manager. "Could be six days, could be six weeks, could be six months." - ⁠Says he told the players they have six months to prove themselves - Paraphrasing him slightly (11:15) but he basically says Aberdeen have lots of good individuals but not a good team. - Among the names who have already applied, he says "there is some big names, some surprising names, there is some terrible names" - Said "don't be surprised if we are looking for more Scottish players in the transfer market" - Confirms Alfie Dorrington has returned to Tottenham (don't think it was ever officially announced) and "a few more players will leave in the next few days"

The holidays are over. Sober up.

It's a rather pleasant -3 here, but no snow. Just some frost. Get your fucking arses down here.