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It's fucking nonsense, along with Park and Rides and new bus fleets and routes popping up to serve one location every 14 days.

I went up to it a couple of times to see if it got any better. It feels so disconnected from Aberdeen it's never going to improve in that sense. Nobody wants to drink 8 miles from the stadium and leave at 2pm. Bar planned is for 400. Terrible public transport links and extortionate drinks in a tumbler outside. I don't get the optimism.

It'll take a while for the real fans that support the Kingsford bollocks to realise what they've lost, if it happens. Playing in Aberdeen, pubs, walking to the game and being able to go into town hours or minutes before kick off mainly.

Heard from an employee of the football department he was earning just north of that after bonuses since he signed a new deal, and he was very highly paid before it. A few must be taking megabucks to make up our expenditure.

Everyone drives from the shire or the outskirts of the city. Anyone else can fuck off!

First tantrum and it's not been rejected yet.

No. Not during those games. We needed a manager to get us to the group stages in Europe to progress as a club. A manager that understands what defeats in certain games feel like to fans rather than coming out with arrogant trust me and the players shite. We've reached McInnes' glass ceiling.

I'm scunnered with having to continue watching his nancy boy tombola teams. Honestly, bored of McInnes. He's now holding us back.

All the justifications I've seen of proof of his commitment have been of his speech to the select few at Pittodrie where he said 'I fucking better be [the manager when the stadium opens]', as well as how he sounded at the pre-determination hearing. I've seen some of those same people now accept he's going. If the ABERDEEN manager is linked to fucking RANGERS and has no interest in going, is committed to the club as he supposedly is and has told people, he can absolutely make an exception to this speculation dance and say I have no interest in that job whatsoever. He's so blatantly just trying not to be seen as a liar and keep his dignity. His comments about not being happy with the way it's been handled I am certain are a message to the Rangers board for their shambolic approach, and him trying to assert his authority early. Your point about the Sunderland job is correct...because he was interested. My point is he is not committed to Aberdeen and is open to the Rangers job. We have fans who believed the total opposite. Some still do.

I completely disagree. If he had no intention of going to Rangers he could say I have no interest in any vacancies just now and am fully committed to Aberdeen. He actually got Milne to say the committed part and he said 'I reiterate the chairman's comments' without ever saying that himself, only giving the vague 'I see my future at Aberdeen'. Also if he really was as committed as he has portrayed to the poor souls who swallowed it at the Kingsford speeches, he would say I'll be here at least until the training ground is built etc. Say next time the Norwich job comes up and he's asked about it but is interested he can say 'I've not heard anything about that, just now I'm focused on Aberdeen'...which is exactly what he's done but for Rangers. Of course, he's interested and wants to go.

I find it strange it says 6 sites offered and Yule has narrowed it down to 4 they are looking at. These are not the sites ruled out in the site selection (not offered) which are Pittodrie, Calder Park, King's Links, old AECC, new AECC after it was too late, Bellfield, Loirston.

These suggestions are giving me the fear about what McInnes might play. Lewis Logan Arnason McKenna Shinnie O'Connor McLean Stewart May Mackay-Steven Rooney I really fear he will do some nonsense with Ball playing and Rooney wide.

ACC offered something joint with the new AECC in 2013 but the club/Yule turned it down to keep pursuing Loirston and it's now too late. More great work from the visionary George.

It is £5 suhin.

You are right about the Red Ultras although they didn't all seem old in later years anyway. I remember most people actually said things like the older ones with the displays are sound but the young ones let them down, singing and letting off smokebombs and having an attitude which you obviously need to not be a kiddy joke that dies out in a few games like singing sections. Hibs are nowhere near Celtic's level although they have good use of the drum at away venues and in concourses as shown. They were in that new East but have moved to the upper deck of the stand opposite the away fans this season where they'll have more space for their own thing. Could work or be as disastrous as when the Red Ultras moved to section Y. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8E9VN0DQb4 Our fanbase would shite itself at having a real group like the Green Brigade. Complaints to the club and snuffed out back to morgue silence. The problem with our sections as well is they're normally a bit too young and don't have the character.

There's a lack of awareness at the organisation that goes into the atmosphere at other grounds. I've been at Motherwell lots of times when the Bois in the corner with a drum have outdone 2000 Aberdeen fans for nearly the whole game. Aberdeen end 90% sitting down and the other 10% running out of songs a minute in and 20 guys left trying to take the piss out of Motherwell. They can also muster 100 or 200 neds having a bounce for bigger games while our failed singing sections attract about 10 folk that barely sing. St Johnstone have a very small group of about 50 who likewise can outdo our entire away support. Rangers have a big group in a really shite area of the ground which doesn't catch on and can barely be heard, as this video shows how stadium design affects atmosphere That Celtic take though is so far off. They are organised by a fearsomely big ultras group. You are right about it being clamped down on though. The police try to take down the Celtic group every opportunity they can. Hibs - don't you remember them pissing all over our support at Hampden? They likewise have an organised group. The Aberdeen support just doesn't have the mentality. Full of people that believe we'll be deducted points for using smokebombs and complaining to the club about anyone that acts too rowdy.

It's because the application is rubbish and needs serious work. I doubt we'll see any new documents from the club online for at least a month or two. You're still unable to see it's the club's fault and not the side circus of NKS.

How long is this shit going to go on for? I'm nearly headbutting the screen reading Aberdeen fans saying a few things need to be ironed out. Definitely not a few things to be ironed out to turn it from a refusal to definite approval as they think is the case. Some are saying it's very close and just a few bits after they got a nudge and a wink from the council. That's why they've had to withdraw it for 3 months. If it's big changes then surely NKS get another response? Will there be another pre-determination hearing? And if not I'd think it would stink of big grounds for a legal challenge from NKS. If it's clear the stadium and its logistics is too big or costly a problem and a certainty to be rejected, could they remove the stadium from the application to prevent us the risk and time of having to apply another time?

Probably spent a few hundred k when they put the inadequate bus information in tables. Not improving the strategy, just the way it was presented. Have a look at the last one they submitted. It's hard to believe. God help us how much the PR in all the newspapers and everything cost.

Club and stadium supporters should have listened when we pointed out the flaws 6 months ago.

It appears it looked like a 100% rejection and they shat it.

Is that any surprise? Exactly the same as those who were slightly in favour of it or neutral, the NIMBY opposition and something to rally round turned them into pro stadium extremists. People who were against the concept and have been pointing out flaws that are so obvious are told if you're a real fan you'll go and every name under the sun, and every concern is dismissed. There are still idiots saying things like oh you won't be able to get a pint before the game? The pub and enjoying the day out is the backbone of football crowds, and good atmosphere on the big occasions. 12:15 kick off against Rangers, spending 1 hour on a bus then a shuttle instead of the city and pub for the build up sounds utter shite and I make no apology for it.

Looks even worse to me when the choices are laid bare like that, and from only 2.5 hours before kick off? They say they'll add more stops or routes if they deem necessary after a survey... with what buses and what journey time? Dyce P&R Kingswells P&R Bridge of Don P&R Rose Street College Street Shiprow Bus station We can't seriously be planning on building a stadium you can only get to from there at those times, and only going back to there after a game. It's not good enough to me and would be fucking expensive to make it better than that.

Not giving credence to him but for argument's sake that is bad logic. Terrorists don't always go to the biggest stadiums, arenas, clubs or streets. Tends to be the area they live and know.