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He thought Jack was shielding the attacker off. Would have been a very strange kick with his hands nearly touching the ground and no backlift. The run out the wall is inexplicable. It would have just hit him.

He could have just nudged the ball out for a corner, or hoofed it. He then ran out of the wall for no apparent reason and turned his back like a wimp instead of blocking it.

Less than 3 would be miraculous. I've personally had blind belief going into every game against them even at Parkhead. Now we've catastrophically shat our pants against a sea of shite hun team based on their jerseys who got murdered at their own ground. How can our team not get fucked here?

Rooney has lost it. May as well give Storey the chance to miss from a yard than have nobody playing up front.

That was for anyone wondering about demand but I also read the plan, and on police advice, was for a corner. So despite having a specially commissioned biggest most comfortable seat in the UK after a research programme, 76% would rather stand. Seating is dead.

Interesting "In February and March the Arsenal Supporters' Trust asked 7,239 people how they felt about the idea of introduction of safe standing at Emirates Stadium. Not surprisingly, the opinions were overwhelmingly in favour. What may be surprising is the scale. Massive 96% feel there should be such sections at their stadium and only 20% of them would not wish to stand themselves while letting others occupy such sections. Yes, 76% of surveyed Arsenal fans wish to stand during games. Possibly the most important data commercially is that from fans attending fewer than 10 games per season. Many of them suggest they would likely come more frequently if allowed to stand during games and thus have a better matchday experience." http://stadiumdb.com/news/2017/04/london_arsenal_supporters_almost_unanimously_for_safe_standing

I often wonder what I've watched when I read other's analysis. I usually compare mine with the views of neutrals and they tend to be similar. McLean got caught in possession so many times and decision making for when to pass was hopeless. Not reading the tempo properly ever really. Shinnie was man of the match by a country mile and a half. I've read Ryan Jack was outstanding, fought for everything and was a cool head. Totally made up because he did nothing at all and unsurprisingly so because he was on a suspension Rooney could have walked off after 13 seconds and it would have made no difference. We were so in control for the first 30 minutes it's clearly all down to mentality how we play. One hiccup and that never returned the rest of the match. The standard of defending and will to win the ball after our 3rd when the adrenaline was pumping and everyone was so focused, that needs to be replicated over 90 minutes to be a great team and we've only seen that in the home wins over Celtic.

The STV q&a was from 2011 and the SPL's rule. The SPFL when formed in 2013 scrapped all requirements. It can be anything that passes H&S. Seaton hasn't been proposed officially by anyone, the ITKers (not 100%AKers) have said the council 'found' a site by the beach when it became apparent the club were actually going to disappear from the city centre with the benefits it brings to them. Reading between the lines of all the responses from the ACC councillors in their capacity so far, this adds up pretty much exactly. I think it was the economic one that basically called out the club's efforts to stay in and around Pittodrie as bullshit.

I remember a heap of fans in their 20s saying they were going to go with their mates and one in particular on facebook saying him and his 15 mates were ready to buy season tickets. I would have gone with everyone I know from our nomadic positions in the south. I'm not going to a singing section, with 25 flags in the air and a constant drum standing out like fuck, in the blinkin family stand, which is the hard to believe logic failure of the club of 'we'll increase it if the demand is there'. The demand wasn't and isn't there for that, it's for a cheap home end where you can stand with your mates. It would have been great having a full merkland like that for the big games. Cancelled because 500 cunts in the rds claimed they wouldn't renew and the club bottled it. Well how many like the above and families did they cause not to turn up over this season?

Groningen and PSV are two I remember. It's on stadiumdb somewhere although PSV have now done it with rail seating.

Where does it say anything about the type of standing? I think that was SPL rules before anyone did it. I first read it from QoS/Morton fans talking about what would happen if they were promoted. There's one set of rules for the SPFL. http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf There's nothing there apart from pitches so I don't see how it would make any difference what it is. It's not marked down as anything or off limits in the 2017 plan.

Survey of 2500 "If the new stadium included safe standing, would you prefer to stand there rather than be in the seated areas?" Yes 51.80% 1,324 No 31.14% 796 Don't know 17.06% 436 These singing sections are not reflective of anything for loads of reasons. There's hundreds or thousands depending on the game standing in the south just now anyway and used to be the same in the dick donald.

I'd have thought in that circumstance it would not be cheaper or perhaps more expensive given it could only hold the capacity of the bus once in a direct trip with not much scope for anything else. When the SPFL took over in 2013 they removed basically every stadium requirement. Neil Doncaster article in the Herald in February talking about standing where he says Arbroath and Ayr are two of his favourite grounds. Clubs will have to force it in the press to make it into parliament or there is no way it is ever going to randomly happen. I suspect it's where the council may have said a stadium could go, with all the allusions about Seaton and regeneration and since it's been noted as a potential place for a football academy in previous city plans. Yes, and given clubs like St Mirren saying they can't have safe standing because of the architecture and others not being able to have it because it needs the weight spread evenly and not having the correct exits, why are we not planning for that? Exeter's relatively new terrace...all that anyone needs.

The X17 is £5.90 return and almost every bus is completely full including standing from Westhill to Union Square and back in the morning and evening. If any club gets promoted now such as Queen of the South they won't have to install anything and this is their terrace where licenses don't seem to be any issue. It's only UEFA that require seats and there's loads of cheap different ways used across europe. Beer in German stadiums I've been in is normally pilsener. Labour and the Tories support alcohol at football now and the nanny section of the SNP do not have a majority and some of their MSPs have even campaigned for it. Really bring the issue into focus and it will be done. Give little murmurings when asked by the press and it's not going to change ever. It needs pressure. Don't know why it would require the golf course and there seems no problem with the high rises next door.

The belief is that the buses would be free or included with the match ticket or when that falls apart moves to they won't cost £5+. They would if they were being hired and that's what a public bus costs anyway. The line about the Celtic trial was very odd and to me a clear downplaying of standing or the size of it. There are no rules now about standing or the type required, and the stuff about the councils and safety certificate - there's no brouhaha over it at all at any lower division clubs. Booze in the stadion - the club tell DST they support it returning and give lines like welcoming looking at the issue when asked by the press. Scotland's 2nd force, along with Celtic calling for it, could have it on the table and done if they wanted to. They did it for rugby 10 years ago. It's not going to change for as long as Aberdeen act like wallflowers. Has the enormous space next to Seaton towers been found unfeasible?

I'd say every single thread of arguments I've seen on social media has included someone saying how will we get there and the response from the 20 yes supporters who jump on the person's case is the club will be putting on buses. The other almost universally held belief (from those who support it for this reason) is there will be at least a whole end circa 4,000 or even the length of the pitch or both ends standing with cheaper tickets. I'd like to know why anyone thinks what is planned is reasonable and what we're aiming for. The dream in everyone's heads and the base of basically every DST survey spiel response is Good transport links Cheaper tickets Standing Booze outside the ground and eventually in it Therefore we must be building a stadium with links to everywhere (the city centre), full of cheap standing tickets to get it filled and with a club boozer and outside terrace. Anything else is simply not right. Make it easy to get to, make it affordable, make it enjoyable and they will come. This, I don't know what the aim is.

See the stuff about slightly increased prices and paying for a better view and shelter from the rain and concourses, I don't think that's what people - especially the awol 18-24 section of aberdeen fans - really care about at all. All I want is a terrace with affordable tickets to watch football in real life in Aberdeen and beer. Much like why people go to gigs and clubs and festivals and Barry Hearn events. It's the lack of thrilling experience rather than comfort in a nice concourse that's causing us to miss out on tens of thousands of fans. There's German regional south east division teams in the bottom half of the table getting 7,000 through the door because those 3 mainstays are provided. That picture from the training game in Dubai has 200 standing on steps with a bottle of Heineken. Take standing and beer away from Bundesliga games and charge €31 a ticket and they'd also be playing in front of 10,000 in silence.

I don't see it. I don't personally know any big game charlies or passive fans or locker room merchants that have said they would go to westhill. Frankfurt for instance are creating 10,000 more standing spaces to make it cheaper and to get more people through the door. Other clubs build new or bigger stadiums to accommodate more fans. Some build them in better locations or closer to their core support or for top of the range transport links. We're building a stadium no one really likes in a place where 5% of our fans live and will be charging more to the same people currently going with two methods of getting there. I've never seen any case for moving like this.

£300 in 2013 £385 in 2017. Match ticket prices up £3. Circa £1m a year to pay for the stadium.

How is that going to happen? At this rate it will be £450-500 for a season ticket and match tickets near £30, certainly with paying for the stadium in mind. Add in the extra expense of travel for thousands of city fans or for a parking pass, never mind the fuck about with getting there. It's a tin shed in Westhill in the SPL that will be played in the same drizzle. I don't see any way it would increase, only drop and very quickly. One 54 minute wait for a bus to town and not even your home after a game would see to that.

A lot of adverts on the club's main facebook page for hospitality this season, one for a main stand box vs celtic

No idea. Just throwing out a pie in the sky idea like 6000 on 3 routes. But seriously, the alternatives are a bus shelter on the beach cricket pitch or a smaller, adequate Pittodrie.

Buy Rubislaw Quarry.

Drinkers are in the minority. DST survey said 55% visit bars or restaurants prior to a home match and 25% occasionally. The yes support is based on no facts, no reality and blind faith in Yule Coaches which covers 2 roads and 13 buses.

Take your car Even if you're drinking Or don't own one Or there are 5000 less spaces than required for that I think I've thoroughly demonstrated why this is a load of shite.