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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2019, 03:44:18 PM »
Nothing confirmed but Jason Kerr at St Johnstone and Stuart Findlay at Killie have been mentioned as possibles that might be within our budget. If McKenna were to leave, I think our preference would be for a left sided CH. Findlay I'm certain is naturally right sided, possibly Kerr too but Kerr certainly played on the left side alongside Shaughnessy on the right last season so maybe Kerr would be seen as the preferable option

Findlay wouldn't be able to play Europa League though, would he? I am fairly certain he'd be Ineligible.

Kerr is a decent shout, I've saw Michael Hector being mentioned too, that'd be my preferred choice if that could be done, not sure the cost involved there though.

Regarding McKenna, people pointing their finger at the agent, but he's a grown man, he was happy to sign a 5 year contract not too long ago, he's doing this himself, he wants out. We should accept around 5-6 Million, with some sort of percentage added on to his next sale, like we apparently have with Fraser, and move on. 
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2019, 03:44:35 PM »
Meh, who knows. The club could also be being dicks here, they've got form. The best thing is transparency in these situations and I expect both the club and the agent are incapable of such. They should be working together in the best interests of the loon and the long term best for him is to go for as much money as possible, because that not only increases his wage in the short term, but will ensure that future offers retain a high value too. "Handing in a transfer request" is overtly political as it's contractually meaningless. However, if the club have turned down offers without informing/involving the player - for example - then that too is under-handed. Either way, the club should be able to deal quickly and easily with this type of thing and ensure that the boy plays this week and perhaps next too. He'll know that it's in his best interests to keep playing to the best of his ability and I've nae doubt he'll do that.

Unless he's taking the huff because McInnes told him he was shite yesterday of course, which he should have, because he was.

It would be odd if the club weren't keeping McKenna informed but certainly not impossible. Everyone - club, player and presumably agent - were content during the last two transfer windows so I can't really see why the club would start dicking him around now.
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2019, 04:18:32 PM »

Kerr is a decent shout, I've saw Michael Hector being mentioned too, that'd be my preferred choice if that could be done, not sure the cost involved there though

Last I heard, Fulham were trying to get Hector onboard from Chelsea. Even if that were to fall through, just can't see it being a goer. He's bound to be on £20k/week minimum at Chelsea (even though in his 4 years there he's played ONE game for the club.....and that was a friendly).

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2019, 04:35:13 PM »
Last I heard, Fulham were trying to get Hector onboard from Chelsea. Even if that were to fall through, just can't see it being a goer. He's bound to be on £20k/week minimum at Chelsea (even though in his 4 years there he's played ONE game for the club.....and that was a friendly).

Strikes me as similar to James Wilson maybe? Surely he was on more than we could normally afford, but having been here, he was obviously happy to try and re-establish himself somewhere on a permanent. I think Hector has been loaned out since he joined Chelsea, he knows what to expect here and perhaps that could entice him. I'd be delighted with it, but I appreciate there are many obstacles.

Out of interest, what do you think St Johnstone would hold out for regarding Kerr? I saw Wright saying clubs would need to break the bank to get him, but surely it'd be less than 1 Million? He's not really established himself exactly, has he? St Johnstone regressed considerably these last 2 seasons, he's played in a lot of those game during that time.
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2019, 04:49:54 PM »
It would be odd if the club weren't keeping McKenna informed but certainly not impossible. Everyone - club, player and presumably agent - were content during the last two transfer windows so I can't really see why the club would start dicking him around now.

Aye, of course, but you could see the player saying the opposite: the club were content that he would leave given the right offer and be talking to him before bids were rejected or whatever. With a player wanting to leave I expect it wouldn't take much for him to feel he has been wronged. Given we don't know, I'd hope the fans would give him an easy ride in Croatia. One thing I think of is that we won't be getting near to what most AFC fans would consider acceptable. I think the rumours last season were inaccurate, and I reckon we'd be doing well to get £4M this summer.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2019, 05:11:03 PM »
I don't think the timing of transfer request is great given Thursday's match.  We have a more than decent chance of making Group Stage if seeing off HNK Rijeka.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2019, 05:13:25 PM »
I don't think the timing of transfer request is great given Thursday's match.  We have a more than decent chance of making Group Stage if seeing off HNK Rijeka.

I agree wholeheartedly SeeBass, and if it turns out this is McKenna's doing, then he can absolutely fuck off.
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2019, 05:21:59 PM »
But if he doesn't do it before Thursday, there's a danger he could remain in Scotland for the next 6 months. I'm assuming this coincides with the English window, which suggests it won't be the Tim he's targetting (or is targetting him). He's between a rock and a hard place like as he ideally needs to move before Rijeka (for himself), and he's not in control of when the bids are being made. It's a quandary like, as we need him on the plane and he needs to be in the UK to discuss terms and do medicals and such like. We'll just have to take him and keep him up to date with offers. Not great preparation, but I'm sure McInnes can handle it.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2019, 06:00:17 PM »
Strikes me as similar to James Wilson maybe? Surely he was on more than we could normally afford, but having been here, he was obviously happy to try and re-establish himself somewhere on a permanent. I think Hector has been loaned out since he joined Chelsea, he knows what to expect here and perhaps that could entice him. I'd be delighted with it, but I appreciate there are many obstacles.

Out of interest, what do you think St Johnstone would hold out for regarding Kerr? I saw Wright saying clubs would need to break the bank to get him, but surely it'd be less than 1 Million? He's not really established himself exactly, has he? St Johnstone regressed considerably these last 2 seasons, he's played in a lot of those game during that time.

My son is a St Johnstone fanatic. According to him (similarly to McKenna) the fans feel he hasn't really progressed as much as they expected in the second half of last season. I'd be amazed if we had to pay more than £600k for him, although as we are likely to do with McKenna, they'd probably insist on a fairly hefty percentage of any future sell-on fee

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2019, 06:09:06 PM »
I’m certainly not fussed if McKenna leaves, just want to make sure we get a solid replacement. I don’t think McKenna has been great in recent months and dare I even say he’s over rated? Still good but 10 million good? I was excited for the Devlin-McKenna partnership but neither has been great the last year for different reasons, don’t think McKenna has kicked on the last twelve months.

Hector on loan until we get the right guy would work, but I’d assume appropriate funds would be made available plus we knew this was coming so I’d like to think DM is well up to speed on what replacement he wants. Ojo and Hedges are quality, maybe we find another gem.
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2019, 06:15:32 PM »
But if he doesn't do it before Thursday, there's a danger he could remain in Scotland for the next 6 months. I'm assuming this coincides with the English window, which suggests it won't be the Tim he's targetting (or is targetting him). He's between a rock and a hard place like as he ideally needs to move before Rijeka (for himself), and he's not in control of when the bids are being made. It's a quandary like, as we need him on the plane and he needs to be in the UK to discuss terms and do medicals and such like. We'll just have to take him and keep him up to date with offers. Not great preparation, but I'm sure McInnes can handle it.

If Ajer did go to Leicester City, then I would imagine the Dhims would indeed come back in with an improved offer for McKenna, but I agree with the sentiment that seems to be he wants to go to England.

When is the player registration for the Rijeka game? This could be an interesting 48 hours coming up.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2019, 06:32:57 PM »
My son is a St Johnstone fanatic. According to him (similarly to McKenna) the fans feel he hasn't really progressed as much as they expected in the second half of last season. I'd be amazed if we had to pay more than £600k for him, although as we are likely to do with McKenna, they'd probably insist on a fairly hefty percentage of any future sell-on fee

Just never really noticed the lad, but then again, I have only ever seen him when we've played them, and they always give us a difficult game.

Devlin being made of glass, Considine getting on a bit, Hoban potentially returning and being made of glass, Taylor being Taylor ( Not as bad as made out, but still not good enough to be our 1st choice ) .....if McKenna goes, we really must bring in another 2 CB's in my opinion, and at least one of them should be Left Footed.

Jack Hendry on a season loan from Celtic, or even until January, giving us time to find a replacement? Efe Ambrose if he still hasn't got a club, on a years contract? Either of those with a Left Footer coming in is doable.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2019, 07:14:23 PM »
efe ambrose gtf seriously
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2019, 07:18:06 PM »
I canna be arsed reading through the last days posts. So no idea what’s been said.
Has to be the agent trying to drive an actual bid.
Now the over rated Leicester lad is at Man U there will be a bid incoming from them.
Should have kept his mouth shut as now Leicester will think they can bid cheep, despite selling an inferior player for £80 million. 

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2019, 07:20:17 PM »
First of all, i think Scott will be gone, in the next day ot 2 & wont be on the flight to Croatia, that itself leaves us right up shitcreek.
I've got this horrible feeling that Timmy are involved , & they would only be offering £3m ish + possibly Hendry.
Would rather he went down South fo 4/5 m, tbh i dont think we will get near our £10m target, also if we do go for a St.J player for example, they will know exactly how much we will have got for Scott & bump up the price accordingly.

Timing really couldn't be worse :mad:

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2019, 07:31:39 PM »
efe ambrose gtf seriously

Why not? He's a good defender.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2019, 12:21:18 AM »
First of all, i think Scott will be gone, in the next day ot 2 & wont be on the flight to Croatia, that itself leaves us right up shitcreek.
I've got this horrible feeling that Timmy are involved , & they would only be offering £3m ish + possibly Hendry.
Would rather he went down South fo 4/5 m, tbh i dont think we will get near our £10m target, also if we do go for a St.J player for example, they will know exactly how much we will have got for Scott & bump up the price accordingly.

Timing really couldn't be worse :mad:

If McIness accepted that and signed Hendry as part of the deal, that would be worthy of a sacking imo.  An absolute abomination of a footballer.

Timing is horrific, really couldn't have been timed worse.  If he goes, I hope it's down south.  Personally, I don't think he's made the steps I had hoped he would when he broke through a couple of seasons back, but that's by the by.  We need to get as much cash as possible, ideally after the Rijeka ties.

Just when we think things are going well and we're developing a team.  Little wonder DM is furious.

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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2019, 08:59:20 AM »
Just never really noticed the lad, but then again, I have only ever seen him when we've played them, and they always give us a difficult game.

Devlin being made of glass, Considine getting on a bit, Hoban potentially returning and being made of glass, Taylor being Taylor ( Not as bad as made out, but still not good enough to be our 1st choice ) .....if McKenna goes, we really must bring in another 2 CB's in my opinion, and at least one of them should be Left Footed.

Jack Hendry on a season loan from Celtic, or even until January, giving us time to find a replacement? Efe Ambrose if he still hasn't got a club, on a years contract? Either of those with a Left Footer coming in is doable.


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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2019, 09:01:46 AM »
IF and its a big IF he goes to Timbo victimland , First game we play them, stick Main up front and tell him to go right through him first chance, red card, so what ??  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Scott McKenna
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2019, 09:37:04 AM »
Efe Ambrose?


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