Crazy American Politics

[Mason89]

Walk me through Aberdeen FCs cultural identity & why it matters 

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, OrlandoDon said:

It’s all balance. You’ve heard it from the club, the importance of Scottish players and a management team with Scottish influence and experience who know the club and the league. Are the club heading in a racist direction? We signed Cameron and Morrison, interested in Watson and Stanway. I don’t see this as a concern, just the fact that cultural identity does matter.

It's not a cultural thing though, is it? It's about pragmatism. Players with experience of the SPFL are much lower risk than out with. You get a much higher rate of return. Almost any European based player will already be culturally similar to those in Scotland.

[OrlandoDon]

2 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

It's not a cultural thing though, is it? It's about pragmatism. Players with experience of the SPFL are much lower risk than out with. You get a much higher rate of return. Almost any European based player will already be culturally similar to those in Scotland.

That’s fair, although I don’t agree almost any player would fit into the Scottish culture. To me, and I don’t particularly want to discuss definitions and I’m more concerned about transfers and the lack of a manager, Scottish culture includes language, food, weather, religion, family, outlook on life, things that matter daily and can people adapt to that. that’s what I’m thinking anyway. For example, I’ve lived in sun and warmth for 30 years and going outside is only an issue when it’s too hot. That means something, versus fighting the weather on a regular basis in scotland. That’s my memory anyway, and what my family talks about every time we talk!

You’ve heard the club / lutz talk about it, and specifically the need for Scottish players too. I also think bringing local and Scottish kids through our youth system to the first team is essential, plus I am a person who wants our players in future Scotland squads. Every player doesn’t need to be Scottish, but I think as a Scottish club we have to have a core of Scottish players.

[TheDonbytheDee]

12 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

That’s fair, although I don’t agree almost any player would fit into the Scottish culture. To me, and I don’t particularly want to discuss definitions and I’m more concerned about transfers and the lack of a manager, Scottish culture includes language, food, weather, religion, family, outlook on life, things that matter daily and can people adapt to that. that’s what I’m thinking anyway. For example, I’ve lived in sun and warmth for 30 years and going outside is only an issue when it’s too hot. That means something, versus fighting the weather on a regular basis in scotland. That’s my memory anyway, and what my family talks about every time we talk!

You’ve heard the club / lutz talk about it, and specifically the need for Scottish players too. I also think bringing local and Scottish kids through our youth system to the first team is essential, plus I am a person who wants our players in future Scotland squads. Every player doesn’t need to be Scottish, but I think as a Scottish club we have to have a core of Scottish players.

If we won the Scottish Cup, with a full team of foreign players, very few of us would give a fuck.

Yes it would be nice to have a team of Scottish players, mainly brought through from our youth academy, but fitba has changed even more so than Edinburgh.  

[Kowalski]

 

[Kowalski]

Trump is a nonce. 
 

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 10/EFTA01660679.pdf
 

[Jute]

12 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Trump is a nonce. 
 

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 10/EFTA01660679.pdf
 

If those are true then surely to fuck he is toast. 
 

Actually I cannot see them releasing anything like that so it has to be fake.

[TheDonbytheDee]

1 hour ago, Jute said:

If those are true then surely to fuck he is toast. 
 

Actually I cannot see them releasing anything like that so it has to be fake.

Loads of documents released, but nothing linking them with the gimp, that I can see.

[DonUnder]

3 hours ago, Jute said:

If those are true then surely to fuck he is toast. 
 

Actually I cannot see them releasing anything like that so it has to be fake.

"No Contact Made"  etc. 

This is the FBI?

If it's true you wouldn't employ them!

[TheDonbytheDee]

You would think that they are holding back on something.

They release millions of documents, but nothing of note in them.

A cynic might think they are protecting certain people...

[Kowalski]

8 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Loads of documents released, but nothing linking them with the gimp, that I can see.

Many have been deleted since the release yesterday. Plenty of sordid accusations about Trump. 

[Mason89]

There were some that were released, then quickly deleted. 
They were about as grim as you can get 

A senile nonce is tearing that country apart, almost certainly under pressure from at least two nation states & the land of the free/home of the brave (no laughing at the back) are sitting aside and letting him do it  

[Kowalski]

I reckon there is one helluva conspiracy going on in the states. The only people who have really had any real consequences due to Epstein (Maxwell, Andrew, Mandleson) are all British. Next to fuck all happening across the pond despite all the horror story accusations that came out yesterday. I did see this theory though…

 

[Mason89]

That would show a level of competency that is completely beyond this administration. None of them are in their position because they possess any talent 

All you have to do with Trump is watch what he does and believe him when he tells you the truth. He is a child rapist, that is getting manipulated by Isreal & Russia, caging journalists, killing citizens & will try to fuck over the midterms 

[OrlandoDon]

30 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

I reckon there is one helluva conspiracy going on in the states. The only people who have really had any real consequences due to Epstein (Maxwell, Andrew, Mandleson) are all British. Next to fuck all happening across the pond despite all the horror story accusations that came out yesterday. I did see this theory though…

 

Not sure of trump’s involvement, but I think the bigger issues are bill gates and bill Clinton. That’s a ton of power right there. Trumps net worth is approx 6 billion, bill gates is 115 billion, that’s power and influence there. Clinton’s in the low hundreds of million. Plus you start looking into Clinton, the Clinton foundation etc, that family goes to jail.

its one big shit show that people will pay and kill for the juicy to stay hidden.

[Mason89]

Is that the same Clintons who released a joint statement saying ‘release all the files’ or are they different Clintons? 
 

Theres no political nuance to this. If their name is in, they have questions to answer. Trump most of all 

[OrlandoDon]

5 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

Is that the same Clintons who released a joint statement saying ‘release all the files’ or are they different Clintons? 
 

Theres no political nuance to this. If their name is in, they have questions to answer. Trump most of all 

You are funny. You believe what they say? They are saying that because they absolutely know it won’t come out, and they are involved to be certain of that.
I didn’t say trump was innocent, there are others way more guilty, but we’ll never get the truth. But try to look beyond trump occasionally. Bill gates is a very powerful man, (prince) Andrew is not in jail, very rarely do the rich and powerful get taken down.

Edited 1 hour ago by OrlandoDon

[Mason89]

The rich and powerful rarely get taken down because theres so many people out there making excuses for them 

You say Trump isn’t innocent. What is it you think he’s guilty of? 

[OrlandoDon]

12 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

The rich and powerful rarely get taken down because theres so many people out there making excuses for them 

You say Trump isn’t innocent. What is it you think he’s guilty of? 

His fault we lost 3-0 today. And he should have subbed shinnie at half time.

[Mason89]

1 minute ago, OrlandoDon said:

His fault we lost 3-0 today. And he should have subbed shinnie at half time.

I don’t blame you for bailing out at this point 

[OrlandoDon]

2 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I don’t blame you for bailing out at this point 

There’s no point. I don’t care like you do. Like the anti trump syndrome people here, it’s always his fault and there’s no point in arguing/debating, it always comes back to trump is to blame. It’s cold in Florida today, I’m sure someone somewhere is blaming trump for chem trails and weather modification.
I’ve said many times, trump isn’t blameless, trump isn’t innocent etc, I try to be subjective. but that’s not good enough for you, you’ve made that clear a few times. None of us ultimately know, but some, maybe you, I don’t know, think they do more than others.

this wasn’t even about trump, it was the Epstein files and I made the comment that others are involved and guilty, gates and Clinton who I referenced. Debating trump, just like listening to him, is beyond exhausting.

[Mason89]

You do know, you just aren’t prepared to go there because you voted for him. I wouldn’t know how to square that away with myself either. 
 

The man openly admits to grabbing women by the pussy, walking in on children getting dressed, that his own daughter has great cans and they have sex in common. That’s not me you’re arguing with, that’s him saying that. Yikes 

[OrlandoDon]

2 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

You do know, you just aren’t prepared to go there because you voted for him. I wouldn’t know how to square that away with myself either. 
 

The man openly admits to grabbing women by the pussy, walking in on children getting dressed, that his own daughter has great cans and they have sex in common. That’s not me you’re arguing with, that’s him saying that. Yikes 

You’re just continuing to back up my point. It’s not always about trump. I responded to the conspiracy theory comment and why only Brits had gone down for Epstein so far. My comment was that very powerful people are involved and that we won’t get the truth or accountability. You want to discuss trump. Again.