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Loirston chosen for new stadium

Aberdeen FC set to move

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By Charlie Allan :wave:

 

Published: 03/04/2009

 

THE Evening Express can today reveal the preferred location for Aberdeen’s new community stadium.

 

The £38 million community facility, which will become home to Aberdeen FC, will be at Loirston Loch in the south of the city.

 

It follows a year-long series of feasibility studies to decide if the site at Nigg would be the best location for the stadium.

 

The report on the recommendation of the Nigg site will now go out to consultation and will be referred to the council’s policy and strategy committee on April 28.

 

A number of other potential sites across the city, including one at King’s Links, were examined by Aberdeen City Council and Aberdeen FC and it was decided all of them were unsuitable.

 

Aberdeen FC managing director Duncan Fraser, who is also a member of the Arena Project Advisory and Monitoring Board created to advise of the best site and stadium design, said: “These recommendations have still to be approved and at the appropriate time, there will be a full consultation process with fans.

 

“Their feedback will be important.â€

 

For more on this story, and an exclusive image of the new arena, pick up today’s Evening Express or check back later

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  • Aye, I hate those odd numbers, like 17,000.

  • Kinda off topic, but it's related to Aberdeen planning to cut capacity to 16,000. Been having a look at the season ticket prices at Hearts, Hibs and ourselves.  Hearts have sold 17,500, Hibs

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    Personally think the comment about the new urban park was ill advised. Aberdeen city doing something to improve the beach area that isnt a retail park should be applauded and to see it belittled

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46 minutes ago, Slim said:

Since Cormack took over construction costs have probably increased by at least £20m (IIRC expectation for Westhill was ~£40m) and likely value of Pittodrie land has decreased a fair bit too. Can’t see any real progress happening any time soon.

Price of materials and labour etc has gone through the roof in last 5 years (something happened about the start of February 2020 but no one seems to know. Lots of politicians and journalist wont even talk about it so it must be really bad)

A £10million development in 2017 could be closer to £25million now.

There are certain brands ill try to avoid specifying as their price per m2 went from £12 to £45 and sometimes you can no longer get it shipped to the UK.

My gut is starting to say if anything happens stadium wise it will be pittodrie redevelopment likely after (or 'if) 'safe standing' becomes widely accepted in Scotland (not just small sections).

New Main, Merkland and South stand with the latter two having only rail seating. Capacity for European games cut to circa 13000 but for domestic games 20000 assuming the 1 rail seat = 2.5 standing ratio is correct.

Funding for this will come from selling the land earmarked for the new stadium as housing.

 

7 hours ago, tom_widdows said:

There are certain brands ill try to avoid specifying as their price per m2 went from £12 to £45 and sometimes you can no longer get it shipped to the UK.

Based on the price of children's football strips, I'm guessing that the brand is Adidas?

Meanwhile, Oxford United have got planning permission for their stadium (also a 16,000 capacity).

Estimated to be somewhere between £130m and £150m.

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If that’s what £130m gets you then I’ll keep pittodrie thanks.

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1 hour ago, Panda said:

Meanwhile, Oxford United have got planning permission for their stadium (also a 16,000 capacity).

Estimated to be somewhere between £130m and £150m.

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Stadium, 180 bed hotel, conference centre, health spa and retail (lot of non football things to go wrong there).

4.5miles away from oxford centre in neigbouring town of Kidlington but doea have the bonus of a railway station 

This is similar to Bolton shifting to the Reebok except unlike Oxford they werent getting evicted from their old ground and had parachute payments from the premier league to help finance it

Great they got planning approval but that just means the council will let them build it.

Actually getting the builders on site on the other hand.....

Sounds reasonable in principle.

AFC commit to 99 year lease, "donate" Pittodrie land (I assume we retain liability for demolition costs).

Council uses capital loan facility for low-interest financing, receives large plot of land they can use for social housing and solves the issue they have of what to replace the Beach Leisure Centre with.

I would be a bit worried if the council sold the stadium to some faceless property investment company though. I also suspect that the proposed location would not be a simple construction project in terms of groundworks.

Looks like we'll need a new roundabout to get to it though 

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It's a good statement from Cormack. From the council's perspective, the question would be: what to the Dons bring to the table? I don't see any evidence that sports village, transition extreme or the driving range - as examples - benefit from proximity to Pittodrie, so I'm not sure why a new stadium would be any different in that regard. The only benefit to Aberdeen city would be that the club doesn't move to Westhill. Not really a benefit, but a non disbenefit. I don't see the council going for it, although the 99 year lease would seem viable. 

I did like the suggestion of somehow combining AFCCT and Sport Aberdeen with the wider AFC operation but do wonder how that move to a "community club" model in partnership with the Council fits the reality that AFC is largely privately owned by wealthy American investors. And unless I missed something, we'll still need to go down to Dundee for water slides.

It is pie in the sky stuff really.  Cormack is of course (as he should do) just fighting his corner but in one breath he dismisses the suggestion that he wants the council to foot the bill then says exactly the opposite by suggesting all the club would contribute is the land that Pittodrie current sits on.  Never going to happen.

Probably impossible to really ascertain how much money the club brings into the city.  You would think that for every supporter who comes in for a game, goes for a couple of pints beforehand and spends a bit of money in the town there are probably another couple who drive in from the surrounding areas, buy a pie and a cola at the ground then disappear away again without setting foot in the city at all. 

The example he makes with Man Utd is just wrong because they have already stated down there that any new "Old Trafford" won't be funded by the tax payer.

29 minutes ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said:

It is pie in the sky stuff really.  Cormack is of course (as he should do) just fighting his corner but in one breath he dismisses the suggestion that he wants the council to foot the bill then says exactly the opposite by suggesting all the club would contribute is the land that Pittodrie current sits on.  Never going to happen.

Probably impossible to really ascertain how much money the club brings into the city.  You would think that for every supporter who comes in for a game, goes for a couple of pints beforehand and spends a bit of money in the town there are probably another couple who drive in from the surrounding areas, buy a pie and a cola at the ground then disappear away again without setting foot in the city at all. 

The example he makes with Man Utd is just wrong because they have already stated down there that any new "Old Trafford" won't be funded by the tax payer.

Not exactly. He's effectively saying that we would pay for it all, but over a 99 year lease. Basically, utilising the council's supposed ability to access funds at low interest to provide the capital. In effect, it would be a loan, with Pittodrie thrown in to sweeten the deal. I don't know anything about the Man United deal, but I expect that the difference will be in the wording. 

You're right about how much the club brings into the city, but the council doesn't need to worry about that I don't think. I don't believe that the club could afford the inflated alternative in shitey Westhill either these days, so any threat of moving out of the city rings hollow. 

11 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Not exactly. He's effectively saying that we would pay for it all, but over a 99 year lease.

Hmm, well, depends how you interpret it, I guess.

I mean, I would be willing to "build" the city a new leisure centre if the council will lend me £20M over 99 years.  Would bring in a load of money to the local economy. 😉

 

13 minutes ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said:

Hmm, well, depends how you interpret it, I guess.

I mean, I would be willing to "build" the city a new leisure centre if the council will lend me £20M over 99 years.  Would bring in a load of money to the local economy. 😉

 

At current building costs thats one small leisure centre.

Might have enough space for a  pool table if you dont mind angling the cues up the wall on 3 sides

41 minutes ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said:

Hmm, well, depends how you interpret it, I guess.

I mean, I would be willing to "build" the city a new leisure centre if the council will lend me £20M over 99 years.  Would bring in a load of money to the local economy. 😉

 

Yep, that's exactly how it's being interpreted. It's basically like a mortgage, with the council being the bank. 

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https://www.afc.co.uk/2025/10/04/transformational-project-aberdeen-fc-to-deliver-1-6-billion-economic-boost/
 

I wouldn't trust any of our councillors to find grass in a field, so wouldn't get your hopes up too much.

Two things I did note though. The statement says they want Pittodrie to be a potential host of the women's World Cup in 2035.

That would mean they would need to have assurances the stadium would be built in the next 10 years. And also, it would need to be a minimum 20,000 capacity, which likely means the ludicrous 16,000 stadium plan has been knocked on the head.

15 hours ago, Panda said:

https://www.afc.co.uk/2025/10/04/transformational-project-aberdeen-fc-to-deliver-1-6-billion-economic-boost/
 

I wouldn't trust any of our councillors to find grass in a field, so wouldn't get your hopes up too much.

Two things I did note though. The statement says they want Pittodrie to be a potential host of the women's World Cup in 2035.

That would mean they would need to have assurances the stadium would be built in the next 10 years. And also, it would need to be a minimum 20,000 capacity, which likely means the ludicrous 16,000 stadium plan has been knocked on the head.

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23 hours ago, Panda said:

https://www.afc.co.uk/2025/10/04/transformational-project-aberdeen-fc-to-deliver-1-6-billion-economic-boost/
 

I wouldn't trust any of our councillors to find grass in a field, so wouldn't get your hopes up too much.

Two things I did note though. The statement says they want Pittodrie to be a potential host of the women's World Cup in 2035.

That would mean they would need to have assurances the stadium would be built in the next 10 years. And also, it would need to be a minimum 20,000 capacity, which likely means the ludicrous 16,000 stadium plan has been knocked on the head.

4000 temporary seats

Scaled down version of this russian world cup stadium

 

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FFS thats either AI or someone who only does 3D visuals without so much as googling images of Aberdeen Beachfront or 'how do you actually build stuff'

Im sure Codonas etc are well chuffed they've been wiped off the map.

20 years ago they were producing the same stuff (except with trams!!!)

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1 hour ago, tom_widdows said:

FFS thats either AI or someone who only does 3D visuals without so much as googling images of Aberdeen Beachfront or 'how do you actually build stuff'

Im sure Codonas etc are well chuffed they've been wiped off the map.

20 years ago they were producing the same stuff (except with trams!!!)

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Is that done with crayons?

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1 hour ago, tom_widdows said:

FFS thats either AI or someone who only does 3D visuals without so much as googling images of Aberdeen Beachfront or 'how do you actually build stuff'

Im sure Codonas etc are well chuffed they've been wiped off the map.

20 years ago they were producing the same stuff (except with trams!!!)

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Codonas is outside of this “image” at the bottom. That’s the new events space in the bottom half of that picture which is currently being build at the beach. 
 

True Aberdonians would know this 😉

16 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Codonas is outside of this “image” at the bottom. That’s the new events space in the bottom half of that picture which is currently being build at the beach. 
 

True Aberdonians would know this 😉

Sure about that?

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4 minutes ago, tom_widdows said:

Sure about that?

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Right so that’s the new adventure park that’s being built - it’s south of the bouley, the event field is north of it. It’s a huge construction site down there. I would say everything in that picture is currently being built apart from that odd looking pier and obviously the stadium. 

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