Correct, it's nothing like it. Ford's record is there for all to see.....

 

Are you the editor of the Daily Mail?

Are you the editor of the Daily Mail?

No, why? Does he think Ford is an arse too?

No, why? Does he think Ford is an arse too?

 

I don't know, but probably. But I do know he likes whipping up hysteria and not really looking at the facts.

 

Looks like me and the boss will be having a meeting with Trumps people in the next few months to see if we can get some work from them. 

 

Looks like me and the boss will be having a meeting with Trumps people in the next few months to see if we can get some work from them. 

 

 

So a sniff of work and your principles are straight out the window?

guidelines by definition are for guidance.  rules are for adherence

 

No, rules are for breaking!

So a sniff of work and your principles are straight out the window?

 

I'm not opposed to the whole development, just the un-needed bit on the SSSI. That may well be changed still.

The council threw out the application correctly as it was breaking the law. Swinney has overruled that and is ignoring the law. Whether you agree with the law or not, its still the law.

 

 

 

They threw it out?

 

I thought the vote was decided by Ford's casting vote. Hardly thrown out on the basis you suggest.

They threw it out?

 

I thought the vote was decided by Ford's casting vote. Hardly thrown out on the basis you suggest.

 

They still rejected it, even if it was the chairman's vote............

Mizer is just a hippie out of town freak that wants to save the dunes and trees aswell as the wildlife.

Everyone goes on about how great it is to have a world class course in the North East of Scotland.

Is Royal Aberdeen not recognised as one of the best courses in Britain?

Are we assuming loads of golfers will suddenly arrive in the North East because of the name Trump?

Are we assuming loads of golfers will suddenly arrive in the North East because of the name Trump?

 

Yes.  I think if you look harder he's not just building a course. 

They still rejected it, even if it was the chairman's vote............

 

But NOT, as you suggested, because of it's supposed illegality.

Everyone goes on about how great it is to have a world class course in the North East of Scotland.

Is Royal Aberdeen not recognised as one of the best courses in Britain?

Are we assuming loads of golfers will suddenly arrive in the North East because of the name Trump?

Because RA doesn't host an Open, many Yanks know nothing about it.  Cruden Bay benefited hugely by getting in at #100 in Golf Digest's top 100 courses in the world, likewise Royal Dornoch is on the map becuase eveyone knows Watson goes there every year (or used to), but the Aberdeen area has no such draw. Trump's name will change that.

That and Jack Nicklaus will have a course in Stonehaven, Paul Lawrie will have a course at Blairs and it looks like this new development at Hazlehead will be better than them all. With all these courses available to play on, Aberdeen could very well easily find itself as one of the main golfing resorts in the world, Royal Aberdeen included.

That and Jack Nicklaus will have a course in Stonehaven, Paul Lawrie will have a course at Blairs and it looks like this new development at Hazlehead will be better than them all. With all these courses available to play on, Aberdeen could very well easily find itself as one of the main golfing resorts in the world, Royal Aberdeen included.

 

Exactly.  Well said!  Its all quite exciting, if you're a golfer.

 

Thousands of jobs coming to the area as well.

Aye, more strippers and casinos 

 

Result 

Because RA doesn't host an Open, many Yanks know nothing about it.  Cruden Bay benefited hugely by getting in at #100 in Golf Digest's top 100 courses in the world, likewise Royal Dornoch is on the map becuase eveyone knows Watson goes there every year (or used to), but the Aberdeen area has no such draw. Trump's name will change that.

Has Aberdeen not held the seniors Open and the Walker Cup?

Would this have been approved if the celebrity of Trump wasn't attached to it?

Rich, famous guy getting his way and damn the consequences?

Has Aberdeen not held the seniors Open and the Walker Cup?

Would this have been approved if the celebrity of Trump wasn't attached to it?

Rich, famous guy getting his way and damn the consequences?

 

Golf tourism is worth over 300 Million a year to the Scottish economy. Building a course that can host The Open will be huge for Aberdeen.

Golf tourism is worth over 300 Million a year to the Scottish economy. Building a course that can host The Open will be huge for Aberdeen.

How often does a new course get on the Open circuit?

Aberdeen/shire and the North East already have some excellent courses and as I said Royal Aberdeen will host the Walker Cup in 2011, probably as big a competiton as there has ever been in the North East.

 

Interesting to note that the Loch Lomond resort has been having serious financial problems too:

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/golf/display.var.2465412.0.Loch_Lomond_still_on_course_to_host_the_Scottish_Open.php

Has Aberdeen not held the seniors Open and the Walker Cup?

Would this have been approved if the celebrity of Trump wasn't attached to it?

Rich, famous guy getting his way and damn the consequences?

 

Yes, money flooding into the area, jobs being created, some positivity and a hugely developed profile for the area and for the sport of golf.

 

Yes, damn the consequences.

which could be... 

 

Money flooding into the area, jobs being created, some positivity and a hugely developed profile for the area and for the sport of golf.

 

 

 

The bulldozing of planning legislation at the behest of a multimillionaire and the precedent that sets (have money, get your way - see labour, New.)

The resultant damage to an area of a rare habitat and an area of significant scientific interest.

A large unnecessary housing estate built to fund the resort.

A exclusive golf resort for rich americans and oil execs that will employ the minimum staff at the minimum wage and be inaccessible to most in the north east

A exclusive golf resort for rich americans and oil execs that will employ the minimum staff at the minimum wage and be inaccessible to most in the north east

 

What inside knowledge do you have?

How often does a new course get on the Open circuit?

 

Building a course that can host the Open, isn;t the same as actually getting to host the Open.

 

Trump has no chance whatsoever in the next 50 years of getting on the rota, but what does that matter, he;s the one who has to build it, and that is his stated motivation. The R&A won't site it anywhere they don;t want to, hopefully it does come here, but if it doesn;t so what, it will mean a little less in Trumps pocket, and a little less tourism, but the whole golfing developemtn in the north-east at the moment will drive golf tourism to an area that is largely excluded at the moment.

http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/921622

 

Lawrie’s golf plan gets the go-ahead

Development could create hundreds of jobs

 

By David Ewen chief reporter

 

Published: 05/11/2008

 

GOLFING hero Paul Lawrie has been given the go-ahead for a multi-million course on the outskirts of Aberdeen, the Evening Express can reveal today.

 

Lawrie’s £115 million development for Banchory-Devenick includes 280 houses and could create hundreds of jobs.

 

The decision by the Scottish Government follows its approval of American tycoon Donald Trump’s £1 billion Balmedie golf resort.

 

Today former Open champion Paul Lawrie said he was “delighted†to be making his first step into design in his home city.

 

Lawrie said: “This decision, coupled with the recent announcement on the Donald Trump application, will ensure that the North-east now truly has the potential to become one of the world’s top golfing destinations.

 

“To be part of a development which will provide my community with access to an international championship golf course, and one which they can be proud off, is a day I cannot wait to see.â€

 

The Blairs plan was backed by Aberdeenshire Council but needed the okay from the Scottish Government because it was in green belt.

 

Ministers decided to accept the council’s ruling without calling in the plan for determination.

 

Over the next 12 months the Muir Group will work with Aberdeenshire Council and the community to create a detailed planning application. During this time it will also look for a hotel operator.

 

Chairman John Muir said: “This decision now formally opens the door for a massive £115 million investment in Aberdeenshire, which in time will deliver nearly 1,000 jobs for the area.

 

“I am thoroughly excited by the vision that can now be implemented in terms of enabling leisure and business tourism through a world-class hotel resort and a signature championship golf course by local golfing hero Paul Lawrie.â€

 

The housing will pay for the restoration of Blairs College, a former Roman Catholic seminary, south of the River Dee.

 

On November 17 Mary Queen of Scots’ Death Warrant will be unveiled at Blairs by First Minister Alex Salmond MSP and the Lord Provost of Aberdeenshire Council William Howatson.

 

Leader of the Catholic Church in Scotland Cardinal Keith Patrick O’Brien said: “It is extremely sad to see the magnificent buildings in a state of progressive decay. I and my brother bishops in Scotland are more than delighted at the prospect of restoration.â€

 

Those behind the 10-year project talk of it rivalling Donald Trump’s proposed Balmedie resort, which includes 500 houses, 950 holiday homes and a course billed as “the world’s greatestâ€.

 

The Paul Lawrie course could be ready in three years and will be open to the public. Paul reckons it will also have the potential to attract golf’s biggest competition – the biennial Europe v United States Ryder Cup.

 

The Muir Group said it was in a strong financial position, despite the global credit crunch. A spokesman said: “The North-east continues to pose a lucrative market for the company.â€