Aberdeen v Motherwell (Scottish Cup)

[forbert]

A good win even allowing for the circumstances throughout the match. We are a team devoid of confidence.  The swagger we exhibited until we lost Geiger was enjoyable but fleeting. Momentum is a massive element in Scottish fitba, we can only hope its our turn to string some performances together. Shinnie, Cameron, nisbet, olusanya all were important at right time. Unfortunately the likes of palaversa and Keskinen continue to massively underwhelm.

[dons8321]

49 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Hate to say it, but Motherwell are a good side. They’ve take points off Celtic rangers and hearts this season, and we have struggled all season with them. 
the red cards were huge. First one unlucky but a red, and a lovely nisbet goal. No way is the second red, just too far from goal and while level, there are defenders back. 
Keeps the season alive for now, hopefully we can build on this result. Harder with the squad we have and no manager and the uncertainty around that.

Don't know why you hate to say it.  They are a good side and if they didn't pass around so much even when a man down could have given us much more trouble.  Agree with you that the 2nd red is poor (although I remember we had a CB a few years back (Devlin? partnered McKenna) who was given a red when he fouled a guy who was actually moving towards the touchline near the centre circle),  anyone who has seen Olusanya running with the ball (unless he's up against Ruby!), would know he's not going to be able to control it for 40-50 metres.

  

  

[The.Moog]

3 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

£20k?

You drive a hard bargain sir…

[Bukta Bertie]

6 hours ago, Jute said:

Basically what Orlando said. 

Sorry but I won't have any talk of "luck" that's almost as bad as the idiot who claimed the cup final win was a "fluke". Aberdeen were good last night and I find it hard to understand why so many Aberdeen fans find it so hard to accept ehen we do well. It's as if a lot of our supporters actually find solace in negativity and being critical.

[Bukta Bertie]

6 hours ago, forbert said:

A good win even allowing for the circumstances throughout the match. We are a team devoid of confidence.  The swagger we exhibited until we lost Geiger was enjoyable but fleeting. Momentum is a massive element in Scottish fitba, we can only hope its our turn to string some performances together. Shinnie, Cameron, nisbet, olusanya all were important at right time. Unfortunately the likes of palaversa and Keskinen continue to massively underwhelm.

I like Geiger a lot. He's going to be a great signing. Wind played a part in the rash challenge that got him send off but I'm not doing to turn against him because of a red card in a game we went on to win as some Dons fans seen to be doing.

If he replicated that tackle on Miovski next time we play that lot he'd surely be a local folk hero. Wouldn't care if we went on to lose the match 5-0 due to being a man down. Stuff of Legend.

[Ajja]

Few observations rather than repeating too much of what’s already been said. Agree we are a dose of confidence off being able to compete with most sides. Game was ruined (positively for us) by the cards. I actually think that the second was given largely because the player himself (Gordon) actively goes to take Olusanya out which is a clear cycnical move and an indication of the threat. Might have tipped VAR/Beaton to think it was red (I don’t think it was). Also, and most crucially, Motherwell created nothing tonight. One slight opportunity in the box for Just and they hit the post late on but think that was flagged. They need to learn to finish if they have any aspirations for success.  We didn’t look composed on the ball but as others have said that’s a confidence thing but we limited them to possession without much penetration (aided by losing players). Thought Cameron was superb and we should be doing everything to sign him. 

[Blow.Up.Sheep]

Very happy to have got this one totally wrong, as I really never seen that coming. Not a great performance as such but a fantastic result and we are still in the cup in with a serious shout of retaining it (it has t be said).

Hopefully both our goal scorers overall performance and contribution will go some way to silencing their critics. But apparently Shinnie's legs have gone and Nisbet is shite 
Said it before and will say Shinnie and Nisbet are the very VERY least of our problems, and once again both of them putting in MOTM performances last night.

Great result and well done Leven and Doc and everyone involved.

let's take some confidence from this.

COYFR 

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, Bukta Bertie said:

Sorry but I won't have any talk of "luck" that's almost as bad as the idiot who claimed the cup final win was a "fluke". Aberdeen were good last night and I find it hard to understand why so many Aberdeen fans find it so hard to accept ehen we do well. It's as if a lot of our supporters actually find solace in negativity and being critical.

We did have a bit of luck, but I agree that we played well and deserved the luck and the win. 

1 hour ago, Bukta Bertie said:

I like Geiger a lot. He's going to be a great signing. Wind played a part in the rash challenge that got him send off but I'm not doing to turn against him because of a red card in a game we went on to win as some Dons fans seen to be doing.

If he replicated that tackle on Miovski next time we play that lot he'd surely be a local folk hero. Wouldn't care if we went on to lose the match 5-0 due to being a man down. Stuff of Legend.

I'm not sold on Geiger yet. He looked okay, but I thought he looked a poorer version of Aouchiche. Doesn't quite have the legs I'd say, but hopefully it's just him getting up to speed. Agree about the wind, that's how I saw it in real time, although it does look a lot worse on the highlights! I totally disagree about your point in miovski. Last night, he had his eyes on the ball and accidentally caught the player, who was back on his feet in thirty seconds. If he's going to get sent off against the Hun, then there needs to be at least a season ending injury, and preferably in a challenge where he can follow through and take out at least one other Hun. Followed by him screaming in their faces and throwing his top into the Ibrox stands. 

[Don Julio]

From what little I’ve seen so far I think Geiger could be an upgrade on Aouchiche and a fit with the Scottish game. Simply because more combative, more straightforward .He must be way off it in terms of fitness so too soon to say I suspect.

[blinlemon]

3 hours ago, Blow.Up.Sheep said:

Very happy to have got this one totally wrong, as I really never seen that coming. Not a great performance as such but a fantastic result and we are still in the cup in with a serious shout of retaining it (it has t be said).

Hopefully both our goal scorers overall performance and contribution will go some way to silencing their critics. But apparently Shinnie's legs have gone and Nisbet is shite 
Said it before and will say Shinnie and Nisbet are the very VERY least of our problems, and once again both of them putting in MOTM performances last night.

Great result and well done Leven and Doc and everyone involved.

let's take some confidence from this.

COYFR 

You may have been hacked, min. 

It looks to me like there’s far too little doom, gloom, soor ploom, and va-va-voom in that message to be an original. 

Or perhaps there’s hope for you yet?
Kind regards etc

[Panda]

One thing I noticed last night. Milanovic looking like he was begging John Beaton not to send off the Motherwell lad in the first few minutes.

Some would praise him for fair play, but fucking hell mate, we need every advantage we can get just now. Let the ref send him off.

[Mason89]

I had five of your English pounds on Aberdeen -1 

Think people are getting a bit carried away with how good Motherwell’s samba soccer is 

[Stewart]

1 minute ago, Panda said:

One thing I noticed last night. Milanovic looking like he was begging John Beaton not to send off the Motherwell lad in the first few minutes.

Some would praise him for fair play, but fucking hell mate, we need every advantage we can get just now. Let the ref send him off.

I thought he was saying "he's away" but watched it again and you might be right.

Played together at Western Sydney Wanderers so probably trying to help his mate for some stupid reason.

[OrlandoDon]

4 hours ago, Bukta Bertie said:

Sorry but I won't have any talk of "luck" that's almost as bad as the idiot who claimed the cup final win was a "fluke". Aberdeen were good last night and I find it hard to understand why so many Aberdeen fans find it so hard to accept ehen we do well. It's as if a lot of our supporters actually find solace in negativity and being critical.

I never said fluke but you may be referring to me, thanks for the shout out! Absolutely there was luck go our way last night. Doesn’t take away from two very good goals. We were unlucky not to get a foul/hand ball prior to motherwell’s first goal. And in the cup final, we definitely had luck on our side too. Doesn’t take away from many good things we did well, including the best penalties I’ve ever seen.

luck is a huge part of football. We were due some, last night helped. 

[blinlemon]

10 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I had five of your English pounds on Aberdeen -1 

What’s the “-1”? 
Decent return moolah-wise?

[The.Moog]

32 minutes ago, Panda said:

One thing I noticed last night. Milanovic looking like he was begging John Beaton not to send off the Motherwell lad in the first few minutes.

Some would praise him for fair play, but fucking hell mate, we need every advantage we can get just now. Let the ref send him off.

Yeah, I thought that as well, it certainly looked like that was what he was doing.

If that is the case then WTF min - Leven and Doc need to have a word as trying to do the opposition a massive favour in our biggest game of the season is not only stupid, its fuckin indefensible…

[Blow.Up.Sheep]

24 minutes ago, blinlemon said:

You may have been hacked, min. 

It looks to me like there’s far too little doom, gloom, soor ploom, and va-va-voom in that message to be an original. 

Or perhaps there’s hope for you yet?
Kind regards etc

I am just as usual telling it as it is min, bit some folks with the red tinted glasses and stalkers (like yirsel) don't always take this too kindly.
Nae exactly doom and gloom blah blah fkn blah (as you put it) but again just realistic.

You might have not read the part where I said It was not a great performance at all last night (and it really fkn wasn't) but Peter Leven himself admitted that in his post match interview.
But it was all about the result and staying in the cup, and we managed that so well done to all involved.
I did not think we would do that last night and to be honest we had bit of luck on our side with the two red cards, but hey sometimes luck goes the other way so we take it when it comes. And hopefully we can take some much needed confidence from that.

So let's see what happens this weekend

COYFR 

[Blow.Up.Sheep]

2 minutes ago, The.Moog said:

Yeah, I thought that as well, it certainly looked like that was what he was doing.

If that is the case then WTF min - Leven and Doc need to have a word as trying to do the opposition a massive favour in our biggest game of the season is not only stupid, its fuckin indefensible…

yip noticed that as well and was wondering WTF is Milanovic actually trying to achieve here.
Totally agree Moog if that is what he was appealing about then what a fukin moron and as you say totally indefensible 

[Mason89]

29 minutes ago, blinlemon said:

What’s the “-1”? 
Decent return moolah-wise?

I gave Motherwell a goal of a start. £37 back, which is much more than i normally get backing Aberdeen 

[Bukta Bertie]

36 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

I never said fluke but you may be referring to me, thanks for the shout out! Absolutely there was luck go our way last night. Doesn’t take away from two very good goals. We were unlucky not to get a foul/hand ball prior to motherwell’s first goal. And in the cup final, we definitely had luck on our side too. Doesn’t take away from many good things we did well, including the best penalties I’ve ever seen.

luck is a huge part of football. We were due some, last night helped. 

I was referring to someone who specifically used the word "fluke". Stand easy. 

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, Panda said:

One thing I noticed last night. Milanovic looking like he was begging John Beaton not to send off the Motherwell lad in the first few minutes.

Some would praise him for fair play, but fucking hell mate, we need every advantage we can get just now. Let the ref send him off.

I like to see this sort of thing. I've played kick abouts at the sports village where grown men are diving to win free kicks. The lack of sportsmanship in football is insidious. I don't believe it was always the case and we seem to not only be getting further and further away from a sport where sportsmanship was built in, but accepting and promoting it, and building it into our rules. The handball rule is a prime example, where sporting advantage (i.e. deliberate Vs not) has been removed from the equation. Accidental collisions are now red cards. Their red card, given after a slip etc. It's a real shame. It would be very simple to add the word "deliberately" into stopping a goalscoring opportunity, for example. Or "deliberately" endangering an opponent. Ironically, the sending off that everyone seems to be complaining about from last night was the one where the Motherwell player deliberately and cynically hauled the player to the ground to stop him getting away. He did it in an attempt to "take a booking" probably, with no idea whether his teammates would get back or not. It's certainly the most deserved of the sending offs, but we're all arguing over the technicality of whether the defenders would have caught the player, rather than the deliberate lack of sportsmanship in the challenge. 

[Brochred]

1 hour ago, The.Moog said:

Yeah, I thought that as well, it certainly looked like that was what he was doing.

If that is the case then WTF min - Leven and Doc need to have a word as trying to do the opposition a massive favour in our biggest game of the season is not only stupid, its fuckin indefensible…

Not only does he try to stop us winning by his ineptitude, he is now advocating for your opponents Get him to fuck

[Panda]

4 hours ago, Stewart said:

I thought he was saying "he's away" but watched it again and you might be right.

Played together at Western Sydney Wanderers so probably trying to help his mate for some stupid reason.

Ah didn't they were pals, I guess that explains it somewhat, but still. Need a nasty streak to win things here.

[Panda]

4 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

 And in the cup final, we definitely had luck on our side too.

What luck did we have?

Celtic not being at their best isn't luck. Our tactics were set up to nullify them, and they did.

[Ajja]

4 hours ago, Mason89 said:

I had five of your English pounds on Aberdeen -1 

Think people are getting a bit carried away with how good Motherwell’s samba soccer is 

Agreed. There are clearly aspects of their set up and play that are impressive. Getting what he is from that squad is pretty exceptional and the ability to switch players in and out often without significant reduction in quality is impressive too. They play some really good football box to box, their movement, work rate and understanding of each others positioning is also good. They struggle a bit bookending that though. Vulnerable at the back of they are pressed and not dominating possession and more crucially they don’t have a focal point up front and depend on playing through to allow Maswanhise in to score. They tried to create that focal point with the big Scandie guy but he was honking so I reckon it stuffed some of their game plan last night.