Kilmarnock v Aberdeen

[THFN1983]

1 minute ago, OrlandoDon said:

I think a captain varies by manager. Ronaldo and bruno Fernandez and absolutely not captains to me for example, some go for effort, communication, ability, position, etc. Shinnie leads by example and would sweat blood for the club, and was one of our best players (may still be due to the crap we have), a captain to many but not all.

The difference between Ronaldo and Bruno compared to Shinnie, well there's obviously a long list of things, but the most apparent is if you are a player coming into Man Utd or Portugal or wherever and you see Ronaldo or Bruno in your changing room then their standing in football inspires you to perform better, again most likely because you want to be on their level, you want to be seen to be trying to be their equal. This is a more modern day captain which is effective in it's own way but only really when you're in a winning team that's performing well and the support are happy. When their respective teams aren't doing so well the knives come out for them being the captain for their perceived lack of intensity and not being an old fashioned captain.

With Shinnie as our captain then I hardly expect any players to be overawed by Shinnie's talent, ability, winners medals etc. and feel they have to up their game to reach his level. That's no dig at Shinnie because I think he has been a good signing for us though I'd have preferred him to have left last summer as he isn't the Shinnie that we signed anymore and simply being tenacious isn't anywhere near what we require in the positions he gets deployed in.

[OrlandoDon]

9 minutes ago, THFN1983 said:

The difference between Ronaldo and Bruno compared to Shinnie, well there's obviously a long list of things, but the most apparent is if you are a player coming into Man Utd or Portugal or wherever and you see Ronaldo or Bruno in your changing room then their standing in football inspires you to perform better, again most likely because you want to be on their level, you want to be seen to be trying to be their equal. This is a more modern day captain which is effective in it's own way but only really when you're in a winning team that's performing well and the support are happy. When their respective teams aren't doing so well the knives come out for them being the captain for their perceived lack of intensity and not being an old fashioned captain.

With Shinnie as our captain then I hardly expect any players to be overawed by Shinnie's talent, ability, winners medals etc. and feel they have to up their game to reach his level. That's no dig at Shinnie because I think he has been a good signing for us though I'd have preferred him to have left last summer as he isn't the Shinnie that we signed anymore and simply being tenacious isn't anywhere near what we require in the positions he gets deployed in.

I hear you, and while shinnie is certainly in decline, I still think you’re being a little harsh. He’s a die hard don, can’t fault his effort, his heart, his care, and still can play a very good game. He’s a trophy winning captain and an internationalist, played many a game in Scotland, England, and in Europe. My captain scores the first penalty in the top corner in a cup final.

I’ve said it beforehand he’s Aberdeen culture, not unlike considine in a way, may not wow you as a top talent, but will teach and preach the Aberdeen way and hold standards. I wouldn’t be surprised if he clashed with the egos of aouchiche and palaversa.
McGregor at Celtic is their shinnie, Maguire at man utd, even Robertson at Liverpool, maybe Declan rice, man city signing guehi, all home grown (as in from that country) that I think give the dressing room an important voice. 
what intrigues me is who replaces shinnie as captain moving forward. We are such a squad in transition with minimum leadership
 

[THFN1983]

3 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

I hear you, and while shinnie is certainly in decline, I still think you’re being a little harsh. He’s a die hard don, can’t fault his effort, his heart, his care, and still can play a very good game. He’s a trophy winning captain and an internationalist, played many a game in Scotland, England, and in Europe. My captain scores the first penalty in the top corner in a cup final.

I’ve said it beforehand he’s Aberdeen culture, not unlike considine in a way, may not wow you as a top talent, but will teach and preach the Aberdeen way and hold standards. I wouldn’t be surprised if he clashed with the egos of aouchiche and palaversa.
McGregor at Celtic is their shinnie, Maguire at man utd, even Robertson at Liverpool, maybe Declan rice, man city signing guehi, all home grown (as in from that country) that I think give the dressing room an important voice. 
what intrigues me is who replaces shinnie as captain moving forward. We are such a squad in transition with minimum leadership
 

Shinnie is a Raul type in the respect of what you're saying and should've been club captain but for match days we require a stronger spirit on the field. You only had to remember the days when it was Brown at Celtic against Shinnie and it was embarrassing to watch Shinnie get rag-dolled every match he played against him. You only had to watch the game recently where Shinnie was basically eating his armband because the referee was turning him away even although he was the captain on the park. Would that happen to Brown, McGregor, Tavernier, Shankland?? Not a chance and it's not just because he plays for Aberdeen but also because of how he is perceived by referees and opposition players on the pitch in my opinion.

That's a major priority the new manager has to sign for the club, a player that deserves to wear the armband for the talent, ability, leadership, fear factor they'll instil etc.

[KGB]

1 hour ago, Mason89 said:

This is true. I’m unsackable in my job and I do the bare minimum every single day. I’m currently trying to teach myself card tricks during office hours 

What sort of job do you have, generally if you embezzle, murder, rape, kiddie fiddle etc and get caught, you're not unsackeable 

[Mason89]

17 minutes ago, KGB said:

What sort of job do you have, generally if you embezzle, murder, rape, kiddie fiddle etc and get caught, you're not unsackeable 

I’m president of the United States of America 

[2stars]

2 hours ago, Mason89 said:

This is true. I’m unsackable in my job and I do the bare minimum every single day. I’m currently trying to teach myself card tricks during office hours 

Can we put some pressure on you to perfect the card tricks and you can share with Lutz and the football monitoring board so they can pick the next Joker from the pack that will manage us?

[swaddon]

32 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I’m president of the United States of America 

No you're not. You can string together a sentence. He cannae.

[Blow.Up.Sheep]

On 26/01/2026 at 12:12, Blow.Up.Sheep said:

We just need to keep winning and hope the teams above drop points. But obviously we have no control over the teams above so we just need to carry on taking care of our own business.
 

well well well, that did not age very well at all did it 
There is not all that much that anyone can say about that pathetic pesh at the weekend.

I know it was only his first game but ffs I hope the laddie Morrison has a return ticket with flexible dates, fk me if we cant sign any better than him or even already have better coming through our own academy then we really are in a bad way 

Edited 15 minutes ago by Blow.Up.Sheep