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A decent result today and deserved in the end. A good second hand performance, whatever Goodwin said at half time worked. That was McKenzie's best performance today, he was excellent. Besuijen, Hayes and Barron very good too and Ferguson was great in the second half after a poor half. Ramirez looked very annoyed at being subbed, but really only has himself to blame and Jenks did well in his place. Ramsay was subdued, and seemed to be stuck between going forward and defending - he was very conservative. Fantastic play from Hayes for the penalty, so direct, which is exactly what we needed. Lewis with some good saves too. Again, Bates and Gallagher aren't as good as Considine. We're making a mistake retaining that partnership.
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Exactly. It's important to remember, too, that we're only halfway through our 50 year plan to bring league success back to pittodrie.
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Could you imagine a manager getting five years to turn it around in today's game! Including a 15th and 8th (out of 18) position finish. Goodwin will be lucky to get to the summer holidays at current rate. We do really have to expect another poor year next season though. There's no way our recruitment guy is that good. Luckily Goodwin has said that he will have most of our recruitment done by pre-season though...
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Keep him away from the Tory ministers.
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Player of the year. Disagree. Should have been Ferguson. By quite a distance. Anyway, he's a good professional, well done loon.
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A suspended McRorie is still a safer option at the back than Bates.
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It's clearly based on potential rather than performance that's for sure. I'm not surprised that the writers have chosen him, I can see why. He's a beautiful player to watch, his gait, plays with his head up, great vision, great with both feet and always has time on the ball. They're likely imagining the player that he could be rather than the one he currently is. I'm guessing that he won't get player's player as they'll see the unfinished article who probably wasn't that difficult to play against. I remember his future teammate Andy Robertson getting schooled at pittodrie by an ageing Robson who likely told him he was shite. Probably a similar thing here.
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I can't remember which game, he dives a lot, but there was one extremely dubious pen given as Ferguson threw himself into a leg. Borderline ones would be Ramsay's one against some cunts, and the Morelos handball against the scum. I'm sure there are others that opposition supporters would point to. We only win, lose or draw by a goal these days anyway, so I'm guessing any decision in our favour has earned points. To be honest, I'm fairly comfortable with most of the decisions that have gone for and against us this season, apart from the Ojo one that you mention. That was outrageous, however it's also a very unusual situation for the ref to deal with (Glass' initial reaction suggests he didn't know what to think until he was told what to think either). I couldn't care less about the porthoose and stryjek type ones that can be cleared up after the game. There was nothing in our play that brought on either incident, they just happened. The McGregor one is a game changer that occurred because of great play by us, but I'm still not completely convinced that hedges didn't just fanny it and move his leg towards the keeper (I think I'm wrong, but I can also see how the ref would have got it wrong). The real problem with the counting up of decisions against us that I have is that it's lead us to VAR, which I think is fucking awful for a game that makes most of its money from fans attending the matches. It'll ruin my enjoyment of games significantly, and it's perpetuated by the idea that every subjective decision has to be absolutely correct. I don't think VAR would have overturned the Ojo red card, probably the porteous one. Hardly worth ruining the spectator sport for.
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Do we have to take away the jenks handball and the Ferguson pen dive, or do they go into the "rub of the green, nothing to see here" box?
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That's a bit rude. Did he even ask how you've been?
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It wouldn't have been a penalty, just a red. The ref gave the free kick, probably correctly, for Besuijen moving in front of the keeper which happened before the shove in the face. I don't think we'd have won had they gone down to four men such was the lack of anything remotely creative.
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Stryjek banned for two games. I thought that if the ref dealt with it then it doesn't get overturned? The ref clearly saw the incident and thought it was just a yellow, what's the point in revisiting now?
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That just means we're due one. I still find it staggering that we're persisting with Bates on his wrong foot in defence, it's criminal. The fact that him and Gallagher are going to be here next season (and we're getting rid of a better centre half than both of them) is fucking absurd. Surely Goodwin must have come to the conclusion that they're not good enough as a pairing so one of them will have to be on the bench next season and that results in a very expensive bench warmer.
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Yep, that's just it, why create the atmosphere in the first place? That's McGhee-esque. That was a very unhappy team out there today. I mean, there's not really such a thing as a reset button is there? You've got guys who won't be there and guys that will. Why create the type of workplace where 50% don't want to be there? How long will it take the rest to recover/reset once the clear out has occurred? What does that bitterness do to the young guys like Barron and Ramsay? We're going to be relying on many of these guys next season whether Goodwin would like it or not. Gallagher and Bates go through the motions every single week. There is zero drive or passion from either of them. But they both will be here and likely playing every week. Ferguson can't be here for another year, it'll ruin him and he'll be a complete drain on the rest of the side (that's not a criticism, he deserves his chance elsewhere). Our team has very few signs of hope, and adding a layer of resentment does nobody any good.
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Well done to the cove huns today in winning the league. An impressive feat indeed. Hopefully we'll avoid playing then next year outwith the cups.
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Another poor performance in midfield today. He's a very strange one. He is a strong, athletic runner with a great work rate, but is he actually any good? I'm not convinced he's good enough at actual fitba to be playing centre midfield. He's not positionally good enough, or strong enough (especially in the air), to play centre half. I think we should deploy him at right back next season. Unless we're playing a back three. He'd be a fantastic holding midfielder against teams that are stronger than us, but we rarely need that. I don't mean this in a critical sense, but he reminds me of Ricky Foster when he was at his best for us. He'd mark Barry Ferguson completely out of a game then fail to complete a five yard pass. Just better at stopping others playing fitba than actually playing himself. I like McRorie, and most especially his attitude and work rate, but he's an absolute conundrum in terms of how to utilise.
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Not really a scandal. I think most would agree that £5K per year for Ojo is very generous.
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That was really, really bad. I didn't think we could get worse than the county game, but we've managed it. I haven't seen a performance that insipid since Paterson was here. An absolutely shocking performance by players and manager. The ref was obviously terrible too, but that can't be used as an excuse. Goodwin has taken a honking Glass side and ripped any remaining confidence from it in a ridiculously high risk strategy that relies on everyone else losing points. The players have left the building. How on earth you can watch that shite for over 70 minutes without a substitute is beyond imagination. Not only does it excuse the on field performance, but it tells the players on the bench that they're not good enough to take over from the 80% half arsed shite on the pitch. The fact that you've already told several of those subs that they're not good enough, in a tactical masterstroke, obviously doesn't help. To bring on Ramsay for five minutes is criminal. If he wasn't fit enough to risk for 45 minutes, then don't risk taking him on at all. If he was fit enough for anything more than a leg-stretch, then it's pure managerial incompetence not to have him on. I understand the need to give the manager a chance, and I absolutely will (I was, and am, a Goodwin fan). However, this current situation is entirely of his own making, and not the atmosphere an experienced manager should be creating - even temporarily - at a club. He's handled things terribly, and the players are downing tools as a result. He has to accept the criticism where it's due. He'll be bloody lucky if he can turn it around in time for the start of next season. Edit: I'd exclude Hayes from the effort criticism, he worked hard. Possibly Barron and McKenzie too, although both probably played within themselves.
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Ref has been fucking honking, but another poor half again. If Ramsay at all fit, we need to get Ojo off now. McRorie and Ferguson been pish in midfield, we've had lots of crosses and those two need to be getting in the box to support Watkins. Watkins been okay, but very similar to when he played there for us previously - he's just not a goal threat on his own. Bates and Gallagher vastly inferior to Killie's defence of Taylor and Considine next season - just pish.
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Guessing Ramsay isn't quite fit yet. Don't want to risk our most valuable asset etc.
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I have a feeling that was pre Milne. I think there might have been some council shenanigans over the sale of that land too, but can't remember. That said, Milne was discussing bellfield way before anything was built around much of pittodrie, so if we'd acted on pittodrie at that point, we could have gained planning permission prior to any housing development. The housing plans would then have had to be adjusted in consideration of that. That said, the nail was firmly in the pittodrie coffin the minute the RDS was built without thought to the rest of the ground.
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That's not correct. The option to not move and wait for something better was (and still is if required) always on the table. If the beach hadn't raised its head, I'm fairly certain Cormack wouldn't be moving us to Westhill, he'd have cancelled the project (probably citing cashflow or whatever easy excuse). Milne was so heavily invested in moving (quite literally, given his preference shares) that he couldn't be objective on Kingsford. He'd literally have moved us anywhere. Milne wasn't working with the options available at all, just one of them.
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Some game. Real shame Arbroath couldn't hold on. Even the draw would have given then another glimmer. Anyway, McInnes done a good job there. Not sure Arbroath will do it in the playoffs.
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Kingsford was and is wrong in its entirety. It's illiterate. It would have ruined the club. I believe it was a case of anywhere we can for Milne, so focused he was on the move at all costs. The best option was simply to wait. I don't think that Cormack would have been that desperate to move to put forward such a reckless suggestion as Kingsford. Milne's an identikit housing estate builder. Buildings in the middle of nowhere, unintegrated and without thought to their function or surroundings. Cormack very much hinted at Kingsford not going ahead not long after he became chairman (before the beach suggestion), I don't believe he was ever fully behind it. The plan B would have been to stay at pittodrie until other options presented themselves. A far, far better option than moving out of Aberdeen because you've convinced yourself that there's some sort of ticking stadium time bomb. Yep, that was fucking atrocious. However, it did directly benefit the club. I doubt he's taking a share of profit on that move. The capacity conundrum is a really difficult one. I don't see us ever getting a 20K stadium filled regularly, and I completely see the logic in reducing capacity to create scarcity. 18k would sit nicely with me, but I have absolutely no justification for that figure other than it sounds about right. I never miss a big game at pittodrie anyway because I'm basically the best fan ever.
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I didn't get the hatred for Milne either, however Kingsford stadium was the most I'll considered nonsense ever suggested, which would likely have seen the end of the club in my opinion. It was the mark of a guy who had probably had enough and just wanted to put something on the table that had a possibility of being built. The fact that so many were in support was staggering. Cormack has immediately canned that idea, which he obviously felt he had to go along with when just an ordinary board member for some weird reason. What is more apparent from Milne's time in charge is that it really isn't an easy job and you're going to make lots of mistakes on the way. Cormack will be no different and I think we'll have to wait a good 5-10 years in order to form a worthwhile opinion. I think we should still criticise where it's due but he does appear to be trying stuff and his intentions seem good (just as they were in Milne's case I believe).