glasgow sheep

Orion scum

Well done loon

I see where you're going with this

Someone elsewhere was claiming he is the second highest paid manager in the SPL on about £200k. If true no wonder they are trying to punt him

More importantly the last TRF front page and first article was a homage to One Up and a plea to save it from immanent closure

Thistle Ultras (12-16 year olds) Free Season Ticket Dedicated Ultras Zone (Section 6). Singing is compulsory Thistle Ultras Banners at Home Games Thistle Ultras T-Shirt Exclusive Facebook page Elected Representative who will meet with the Fan Base on a regular basis Invite to exclusive Coaching Session Thistle Schools Ambassador competition To join then all you need to do is collect your Season Ticket, which is of course completely FREE for ALL under 16s. The Club policy is that all of our younger supporters will have their very own Season Ticket. If you don’t have yours yet you can order it now by e-mailing mail@ptfc.co.uk and it can be collected at the next home game. If on Saturday, or any other home league game, they don’t have a Season Ticket, all under 16s are still guaranteed FREE entry. Go to the Ticket Booth, fill out a simple form, and they will be given a ticket for the game and a Season Ticket will be posted out to them.

Split after 26 games or play each other three times? Wow that solves everything

Sadly plenty booed Fraser at Dens

The clubs did say last season that they were going to look at "safe standing", which I think won't include, for example, Crapiellow. However that discussion inevitably has been forgotten about in the last year of hun machinations and league reconstruction.

Lastly, for now, stolen from P&B and an excellent post highlighting the potential benefits. These reasons, along with the fairer cash distribution and removal of ground criteria (see above) means I'm more inclined to vote in favour of this:

More details, all of which sound very positive in my mind: PROPOSED SCOTTISH LEAGUE RESTRUCTURE SPL proposal is for a 12-12-18 structure Top two leagues to split into three leagues of eight after 22 matches then play a further seven home and seven away games Leagues will be called Premier Division, Championship and National League Top eight teams to play for title and European places; middle eight to contest promotion and relegation in and out of Premier Division; bottom eight to decide who drops into National League 11 out of 12 SPL clubs need to vote in favour of plans, while the proposal requires approval of 23 out of 30 SFL clubs One league body to replace SPL and SFL Plans for Scottish league reform will see stadium rules relaxed By Jim Spence BBC Sport Top-flight rules requiring 6,000 covered seats and under-soil heating are to be scrapped under the proposed new set-up for Scottish football. And artificial surfaces could appear in the top league, with two clubs contemplating installing them. Plans seen by BBC Scotland will reduce the licensing criteria for clubs in the two top divisions to bronze level. That means "adequate pitch protection", namely pitch covers, will replace the need for under-soil heating. There will also be the possibility of short-term derogation for those clubs who currently fall short of meeting bronze level; meaning they could compete in the top leagues while bringing their facilities up to standard. The Scottish Premier League and Scottish Football League, in conjunction with the Scottish Football Association, have struck a merger deal in principle that would see a 12-12-18 set-up complete with mid-season splits and end-of-term play-offs. Speaking earlier this week, Raith Rovers chairman Turnbull Hutton hinted at a relaxation on stadium regulations. "The dawning reality from the SPL is that the criteria for stadiums are going to have to be tempered with some realism," he said. "There has been millions wasted on infrastructure for a bankrupt football set-up just to tick a box on the old SPL check-list." It has also emerged that the club winning the title will give up £315,000 from their prize money which presently stands at £2.7m, with the runners-up also surrendering a substantial sum from the £2.4m currently on offer. The biggest clubs have agreed to the cuts to fund the proposed changes and ensure a fairer distribution of cash throughout the divisions. The winners of this season's First Division will pick up £68,000. If the proposed changes are voted through, the winners of the new second tier stand to earn £387,000. To offset the financial hardship of relegation, given the possibility of up to four clubs being relegated each season, an advance of £200,000 will be made to each club dropping out of the top league at the beginning of the first season following their relegation. After two rounds of fixtures which are due to culminate with New Year derbies, the top two leagues would split into three sections of eight for two further rounds of matches. The top eight will contest the title and European places, the middle eight would play-off to decide which sides would start the following season in the first or second tier and matches in the bottom eight would determine which sides were to be relegated to the bottom tier of 18. http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65241000/jpg/_65241021_pyramid.jpg[/img] The winners of the "play-off" eight and the "Championship" eight will receive a trophy or a pennant. The clubs finishing first and second in the National league of 18 will be promoted, with the four teams below involved in play-offs with those finishing fifth and sixth in the Championship eight. From season 2014/15, the bottom two from the National league will be relegated and replaced by sides from an unspecified set-up that will involve the Highland League, Juniors and the South of Scotland League. The document outlining the changes says: "These proposals... will ensure a dramatic, exciting league with meaningful matches at all levels and at all points of the season." The proposed voting structure in the new set-up would see Premier clubs having three votes, with those in the Championship receiving two votes and National league clubs getting one vote. An independent executive chairman would have the casting vote in the event of a stalemate. July League Cup games are also under consideration, with the league programme to start at the beginning of August. The SFL will put the plans to its clubs later this month, with 22 of the 29 full members needing to give their formal approval. Rangers, as associate members, do not have voting rights. SPL clubs, who put forward the 12-12-18 blueprint, will also have a formal vote, with an 11-1 majority required.

I went to the Emirates and to watch Scotland and thought it was ok but the pitch of the lower tier is far to shallow, esp when standing, meaning you're view is obstructed by the guy in front of you

The best league's in the world are in countries of 40,50, 60 Million folk. We have 5million people in this country, we have about 20 Full time clubs. We do not have the population nor the number of full time clubs to support a top league of 16 teams. Countries of similar size to us have smaller leagues. Below are countries with populations of between 4Million and 7Million ( (from smallest to biggest) Croatia (pop 4M) - 12 teams (play 33 games, 3 relegated, just moved from 16-team league) Ireland - 12 teams (just increased from 8, 1 down, 1 playoff) Georgia - 12 teams (split after 22 games into what looks like an 8-8- Norway - 16 teams (play 30 games, 2 relegated, 1 playoff) SCOTLAND (pop 5.2M) Denmark - 12 teams, (play 33 games, 2 relegated) Finland - 12 teams (play 33 games, 1 relegated) Slovakia - 12 teams (play 33 games, 1 relegated) Switzerland - 10 teams (play 36 games, 1 relegated) Serbia (pop 7.5M) - 16 teams (play 30 games, 2 relegated) Bulgaria 16 teams (play 30 games, 4 relegated) Austria 10 teams (play 36 games, 1 relegated) Azerbaijan 12 teams ( 1 relegated, 1 playoff) Sweden 16 teams (30 games, 1 relegated, 1 playoff) Hungary 16 teams (30 games, 2 relegated) Belarus 12 teams (33 games, 1 relegated, 1 playoff) Portugal 16 teams (30 games, 2 relegated) Czech Republic (pop 10M) 16 teams (30 games, 2 relegated) 10 leagues with 10 or 12 teams 7 Leagues 16 teams, all except Norway with larger populations than us.

fuck that

Away tickets in the SPL already must be priced at the same price as the equivalent home ticket.

I see the tims are in Spain on a training camp. Are any other teams doing this? Doesn't seem that afc are doing anything, infact I believe most players have gone home or off to some Blackpool in the sun resort for beer and chips

We can confirm the match details for our forthcoming Youth Cup match as follows: MATCH: Celtic v Aberdeen COMPETITION: SFA Youth Cup, 5th Round DATE: Sunday 24th February 2013 VENUE: Firhill Stadium KICK-OFF: 2pm Any idea how much it is into this? Planning on going along

Crowds have been very disappointing other than County, Hearts, Celtic and United. Given the quality of football the team deserve a bigger crowd and given our financial situation the club needs a bigger crowd. Other than our perpetual injury crisis the biggest disappointment this season is our home record, and I have no doubt that has a lot to do with the crowds. However having had 3 home games on Live TV, and a further 2 coming up has certainly robbed us of bigger crowds. I'm not sure if we can do anything about it but we seem to get a disproportionate number of our home games on tv compared to away games and compared to others in the SPL

wow bat shit crazy doesn't quite cover it

Seems like the correct choice

Interesting point I only found out this week. As The Rangers are only Associate Memebers of the SFL they have NO vote in the upcoming discussions

Dst are responsible for them and they posted them last week

Yowzer

If the council allow a Stadium only for Cove and none of the associated facilities that Aberdeen City, never mind AFC, are crying out for you have to question why