OrlandoDon

Yup, that’s a winning team! 3-1 us, nisbet, olusanya, Cameron changes my scorers, think Robinson will have a positive effect on olusanya!

To each their own, live your life and try to be happy. My sister died of cancer 4 years ago, we were close, a big factor in me moving and making certain decisions, and a big influence on how I now live my life today. She lived in Manchester and always wanted to move to north berwick. My grandparents retired there and we spent a lot of great times there as kids. But my sister waited too long, got cancer, had her doctors and treatment, and basically couldn’t move. We talked about that days before she died and how you just have to live life and take risks, do what’s best for your family because circumstances can change, dont wait. Be an ‘I can’ versus ‘I can’t.’ And there are plenty of circumstances you cannot change that keep that in mind. That was a big factor in my wife and I doing what we did and starting life all over again in Florida. Plenty of people thought (and think) we were/are nuts and heavily judged us, but my family are happy and that’s all that matters to us. LA is an extreme culture, I can’t fully relate to you guys in Britain as I ultimately haven’t lived there in 30 years, but I was in a situation getting shittier by the day and did something about it. I actually respect those who left the US because of trump. You can only control your own situation. No clue what it’s like at home, visiting doesn’t count, that’s a holiday romance versus a legit relationship, so I can’t judge any of you. I also lived in such extreme judgement and that if you are not with us you are 100% against, feel that a little bit here. similar but different, I gave Thelin more time than most, still support cormack, support lutz, and am now totally on board with Robinson. Life’s too short to be upset. Not my choice but here’s here, and excited for tomorrow. Also quite enjoyed some of the things he’s said and maybe our solution was staring us in the face from day one. I’m a glass is half full guy, onwards and upwards.

Always a pleasure with you. COYR!

Multiple factors, not sure if you are genuinely asking or poking the bear and looking for another argument. But i think it’s worth sharing my experience as I don’t think many of you really get what it’s living like here. It was getting so expensive in California. I was a teacher/administrator for 20 plus years, so not earning a ton of money. But enough. Budget just got tighter and tighter. Paycheck to paycheck. Started a family and when you are living in a condo complex (flats), and being California, our complex had pools. We started having the homeless bathing in the pools and washing clothes, peeping and shitting in the park, you’d find needles around, plus one of my kids fell in a homeless tent in the side walk while we were out for a bike ride. Crack smokers inside wanting a fight. The streets in the San Fernando valley/sherman oaks where I lived were starting to become lined with homeless tents and breaking bad RVs. Open propane tanks on the street, RVs hot wired to street lights. I was paying a fortune for a mortgage and a ton in property taxes and we felt it was becoming increasingly unsafe, especially at night and early morning walking our dogs…and we lived in sherman oaks, the town directly north of Beverly Hills and bel air. Local politics allowed all this. If you know California, or visit, go and see Venice beach and the surrounding area. Over run with tents and homeless, unsanitary and dirty, yet amongst multimillion dollar houses. At least it was when I left and my friends tell me it’s worse now. Private school is liberal and political. I was always a democrat but things changed. I felt I was always middle of the road but the left became more left and my middle became middle right. Our school was aDEI school and it became political every single day. So much trump derangement daily in the faculty lounge, including grief councilors when he won in 2016. we were asked beliefs, told what to believe, and told what professions development to attend. No real freedom or choice to follow interests. I felt it became indoctrination instead of education. You couldn’t speak openly, freely, or express an opinion without fear of offending someone and consequence. I saw explosive confrontations in faculty meetings, nearly broke into fights a few times, and watched people fired for having an opinion that I felt was in no way inappropriate, just different and not the agenda, like gender spectrum and someone saying they believed in two genders as they and their religion believed. Everything was hyper sensitive and feelings, and it was highly toxic. as you know, breaking point was Covid and losing my job. Couldn’t stay as covid vax became mandatory for kids at school, so my kids couldn’t go to school. Had to find a state that wasn’t like Cali, most blue ran states required the covid vax to go to school, Florida did not. I’d lived in Florida from 2002-2009, so had familiarity. It’s affordable. Plus we love beach and warm weather. We were extremely lucky to sell a house in LA that allowed us to buy a great house in affordable Florida for cash, have space and land, and had one year of money to live without spending our savings and time for my wife and I to find jobs. It was a no brainer. Politics doesn’t dominate the daily convo here, obviously a big factor is not working in education, and more people here just seem to try to get along, try to be positive, and live life with a more positive attitude. That’s my experience here anyway. America is the land of opportunity. It was a great place that allowed you to work hard and excel, or certainly was as it’s a shit show now. feel like Cali and other states have lost plot, with significant over reach. My experience in Florida leaves you alone to live life and I really don’t pay much attention to politics any more .it cost me friendships, and witness fights where people just can’t get along. I’m not a trump fan but felt voting republican was more sane than voting democrat, said that here a few times. I’d witnessed that leadership first hand under Obama and felt the country declined, the obviously saw the decline in California. I feel Florida allows a safe and affordable upbringing for my ‘normal’ kids, there’s a ton to do, and sadly we see Mickey regularly. Obviously what’s happening now is not what was voted for, and as I have said before, it’s a two party system, no third party middle ground.

It’s funny how we see it so differently. To many, newsom has completely destroyed California. I lived there 17 years, horrendously expensive now, the average home price is close to 900k now, the taxes, gas is close to double the price of other states, the EV farce, the businesses and wealth leaving, the crime, extreme policy, the increasing debt, failure to deal with the homeless crisis, his (mis)handling of the fires, horrendous budget, the potential wealth tax, and not to reopen the debate, but his handling of COVID. I’d say it’s the bluest state in the country and he destroyed it. I used to say I lived in paradise but it’s certainly not any more. Obviously I’m not saying the country is by any means in a good place, but he scares the shit out of a lot of people. By all means a very good speaker, charming, and good looking, but, like trump, batshit crazy!

Do we know any more about staff? Robinson, is Kerr asst or first team coach? Anyone else coming with him? leven, doc, the new first team coach??

Is it genuine panic though? Or simply the realization that we cannot wait? It doesn’t need to be panic, can be a logical decision, Robinson was a consideration from day one, knows the team and the league, and can be grabbed asap.

Is there any substance to the chatter about lutz leaving, fired etc? Or is it just more made up shit to create drama? After dunfermline, for all we know Dave and Lutz met and both agreed, fuck this, we need someone now, an agreed Robinson could be got now. If Robinson knows lutz, bonus. Such a horrible two month, too much drama, some created by the fans and our uneasiness. Glad it’s over.

If it was horneland or another foreigner, Aberdeen is just another random job. And questions would be asked, comments made etc. Robinson knows the club, the size of the club, and truly feels this is a step up, a one he deserves. He rightly says we are a big club with history, and means it. I think we’ve got a very motivated guy, eager to have us punch above our weight too.

I will say this, Robinson seems well happy to join us. a step up to a top Scottish club despite the current situation. As he says, two phases, firstly stability this year and ‘survive,’ then summer and beyond. He’s certainly motivated to do well and knows exactly what he’s in for. I also like that he’s got obvious passion/fire, always felt Thelin was too nice and passive. I feel a coach needs that side to him, obviously has to be used smartly too.

Maybe. Or was it simply the final acceptance that enough is enough and we need someone now? If you are in the club, do you wait for the perfect girl? At some point decisions have to be made or you’re going home alone.

Langfield speaking very highly of our new management team. Curious if he’s looking for a job, but saying Robinson is the best he’s worked with, which obviously includes Mcinnes.

Well, it’s sinking in from yesterday and now announced. As always, I’ll go win a positive spin. Disappointed but glass is half full! name a foreign manager that has done well in Scotland. There’s not many. Motherwell are not the norm. Rohl is on a good run, but they still aren’t a great side. Robinson is not glamorous, but smart. It’s been a shit show two month shut maybe it ended for the best? the guy is proven to be able to coach in this league. This season for st mirren is more the exception than the norm for him, a he still won a cup, and is still in another….well, was! Knows the situation more than most. Knows us and what the fans expect. There are no surprises for him. He also is very well prepared for opponents, even for the next 9 games. his style of play may not be great but I am sure there will be demands of quality football. At the same time, Mcinnes did not always play quality football. Win games and he’ll get support. He’ll also get a bigger budget, and a network of scouting that’s probably bigger than at st mirren. id take killian Philips over Armstrong, palaversa, and possibly Geiger and afeez. Not meaning we sign him, but if he can get Philips to play like he’s doing, maybe he gets more out of our bunch.

A cup double? We have 9 league games, playing them twice too. That’s not much. Interesting if he stays then plays to beat us, and vice versa! Would be slightly odd to see him hired and move in summer, he’ll potentially help get us relegated then take over!

So we go for Pressley when Robinson knocks us back!! Pretty sure yogi is waiting by the phone too!

Good post, Panda! You made my post so much easier and shorter, was going to post something similar. He’s an experienced coach, Goodwin glass and Robson were not. Thelin had minimal knowledge/experience of our league, opponents, and players. Robinson will also have more of an idea than most of the type of player that’s needed for the SPL. We also have lutz (assuming rumors are false) and the return of Mowbray to find players. i suggested here early season that Robinson could be an option and got blasted for it, so no surprise that there’s so much negativity. But he has done well as a coach in the league. And won a cup. And not just with one SPL team. the big however is that he doesn’t seem to match the whole long term approach, philosophy of the club, and the glamor of a new coach. I’m certainly disappointed in this announcement, surely we could have done better. Seems like desperation/panic to me, and id be surprised if he came before summer. When i suggested him before one major negative voiced was the quality of their play. Haven’t seen enough of his teams to comment, although I have certainly been wooed more by the play of falkirk and Motherwell. Don’t remember the chat when Alex miller was hired, or Roy Aiken, and in more recent times when goodwillie came. Certainly my most deflating hire for us to date and I’ve been a fan approx 45 years, even though there are signs he could be a good fit/hire.

Is Russell Martin still available??

This will be the most unpopular hiring in club history. I’d argue this could help get us relegated as I can see fans staying away with this turn of events.

It makes cormack mentioning Sandro Schwartz completely ridiculous now.

Damn I must have slept a long time if it’s April 1.

Stephen Robinson ffs

Too good of a thread to ignore, and I can feel my teeth rotting just thinking about it. I had/have a severe sweet tooth my whole life, blame it on delivering newspapers from about 1985-90, and breakfast quite often sweets from the paper shop, as well as a quick look at penthouse, and irn bru, cream soda, or red cola. Macaroon bars, snowballs (in a roll), loved a wispa and remember when it was introduced, the excitement! Mccowans highland toffee stuck to my teeth for what seemed hours, did like a milky bar, Turkish delight, curly wurly, and a good old fudge bar….about the size of a finger, covered in chocolate, orange rapper, was it jus called fudge? Still treat myself to a tunnocks caramel wafer occasionally, get those here, but my Scottish upbringing is the reason I have/had about 14 fillings, crowns, and couple of teeth removed.

I definitely think lutz has input, that’s his job. We’ve talked about someone holding the manager/head coach accountable, that involves asking questions and giving feedback. He’ll give leven things to think about, and it’s very normal over here for your director of football to be on the bench, giving insight and there for support/discussion. As you say, we’re also juggling things around right now trying to find a winning formula, plus with signing Geiger afeez and olusanya, they’ll play because our other options are so poor …….then afeez proves he’s not ready. Agree with playing sivert, but I’d go 3-5-2 for the remainder of the season. Sivert inbetween Milne and McIntyre. Wing backs devlin/lobban and frame, with Geiger shinnie and Cameron, nisbet and olusanya up top. All of our wingers are crap, why play with wingers. We can get width from the wingbacks, and the diagonal runs from Cameron and olusanya. Up top the bizarre thing is nisbet is playing well and looks fit, plus the pace of olusanya will help and he’s not required to play with too much skill compared to being wide, he can run into through balls and flick one from nisbet. it’s not a sparkling team, but I think the back three again will make us harder to beat. Two up top with support from a mobile Cameron will hopefully give us chances and a goal or two. It’s doesn’t need to be a defensive line up, but it will make us more compact and a more solid block defensively. wouldn’t mind seeing Kjarten given minutes with us limited in central midfield options, maybe when shinnie has run his race, throw him out there.

Didn’t hear leven anywhere take any responsibility for the cup loss. All blame on the players? looking a bit more at Leven, I suppose it’s optics. Cormack has also referenced sacking x managers in such a short period of time, does he really want to fire the interim. I do believe managers will be wary of trigger happy cormack, despite the manager firings being justifiable. you can always tweak things internally, tell leven to take more input from doc for example, but it’s 9 games. We have an 8 point lead on killie, would take a lot for them to catch us. As much as we need to win games, so do they. pre split we have falkirk and hibs at home, st mirren and rangers away. Killie have hearts, livi and Dundee at home, hibs away. Impossible to predict any of this, we are gash but killie aren’t exactly on form, won 2 draw 2 lost 6 in their last 10, including pumping us.