OrlandoDon

I think that’s not quite accurate, as much as it’s prob tongue in cheek, 9 years as asst at shamrock rovers and Atlanta utd vs 13 yrs as asst at stuttgart, leipzig, spartak, and currently asst with the Belgium national team since 2023. 1 cap for Scotland vs 21 for Germany, watford dunfermline and hibs vs Celtic stuttgart and Sevilla. Played champions league, won the eufa cup and super cup. Obviously guarantees nothing, doesn’t mean this makes a good coach/manager. he’s 43, good age, coaching experience, obviously German like lutz, possibly knows lutz, and knows Scottish football to an extent. not ideal but enough intrigue from me. Much more appealing than a lambert, Lennon, or Billy Davies! plus his last name isn’t Robinson so that’s a plus. Definitely a lot of uncertainty around the club at present, but like you said, def learned from the glass experience, and we do have the structures in place to provide greater support.

Good chance of that w nilsen in the middle given those two are so new.

Think we see sivert and McIntyre at the back and one of the new boys in midfield alongside Armstrong and Cameron, prob afeez but expect to see Geiger at some point. going for a shock 3-2 us! Nisbet 2 and Cameron.

Honestly, Celtic is prob the best match to get them some fitness, rather than a tough st mirren away or utd etc where we really need to win. Sadly, expectations are low and Celtic is a free hit.

Out of desperation do we fork out the funds for Luke graham??

Don’t disagree but that’s a big ask finding that player today!

Knoester out for the season with a broken collar bone? If the rumors are true, what’s Anthony Stewart up to these days? Maybe being consi back in?? At this rate I wouldn’t turn my nose up to miller and mcleish!

Of course, just when luton was mentioned and as average as shady was, he outshines milanovic based on what we’ve seen to date!

I’d do that deal, get somewhere between 500-1M, maybe bring in shady back on a short term loan till summer to seal the deal until better options are available in the summer?

I hear you, and while shinnie is certainly in decline, I still think you’re being a little harsh. He’s a die hard don, can’t fault his effort, his heart, his care, and still can play a very good game. He’s a trophy winning captain and an internationalist, played many a game in Scotland, England, and in Europe. My captain scores the first penalty in the top corner in a cup final. I’ve said it beforehand he’s Aberdeen culture, not unlike considine in a way, may not wow you as a top talent, but will teach and preach the Aberdeen way and hold standards. I wouldn’t be surprised if he clashed with the egos of aouchiche and palaversa. McGregor at Celtic is their shinnie, Maguire at man utd, even Robertson at Liverpool, maybe Declan rice, man city signing guehi, all home grown (as in from that country) that I think give the dressing room an important voice. what intrigues me is who replaces shinnie as captain moving forward. We are such a squad in transition with minimum leadership

I think a captain varies by manager. Ronaldo and bruno Fernandez are absolutely not captains to me for example, but certainly to their teams and country. some go for effort, communication, ability, position, tenure at the club, nationality, etc. Shinnie leads by example and would sweat blood for the club, and was one of our best players (may still be due to the crap we have), a captain to many but not all.

That a great post! Although you’ll probably disagree with me

We all should be the manager of Aberdeen, we are all always right. We’d be winning the league if I was manager! good post, you created good discussion!

Your middle point about players avoiding the ball is most likely pressure. The fear of making a mistake in a high pressure environment. I think the players do care. Football is all about pressure, and the ability to handle it and perform in front of thousands is screaming fans. There are plenty of very good players who don’t make it because of that exact pressure. The ultimate pressure is a penalty shootout, and i look at Polvara and palaversa, two who ultimately failed here, they stood up while under extreme pressure. That’s impressive. It’s not because of pressure that they failed with us. to me I think you maybe mean accountability. Players playing regardless of the level of performance. That’s down to a manager, it’s his job to get players motivated enough and prepared enough to perform at a high level. And fave consequences if they don’t. Fergie was the master at that. plus they feared him, and he scared them into performing, the fear of fergie’s wrath if they under achieved. Good managers are so hard to find, plus it has to be the perfect squad blend for all pieces to fall into place. A lot of that is luck. Managers like Mcinnes fell into a great situation with us, McLean Hayes Lewis Logan Rooney McGinnis jack mckenna and others, most in their prime. They all fit together and clicked under mcinnes, and then mcinnes couldn’t replicate it when the squad changed. we haven’t had the ideal squad or ‘perfect’ manager to make the most of a situation for getting close to maybe 8-9 years. Jimmy was far too nice, I do think the players have to fear letting the manager down, and jimmy killed himself with endless squad rotations too. We had a poor preseason, added players once the league started, and never really got a system in place to gel. Poor performances led to the 3-5-2 ish or at least 3 at the back, but it was still square peg round hole with a manager incapable of piecing every thing together and sufficiently teaching and motivating. very little stability right now, no manager, and no core players, no true long term Aberdeen players to build a team around. We’re also a team full of followers with very few leaders. We’re an extremely flawed team right now for various reasons, but I don’t think it’s because of pressure or players lacking drive.

Agree, random rumors for deli alli for example are pointless, not needed, I think Geiger is a good loan and more steel to a powder puff midfield, but we have to have another central defender and winger. We need two in, essential to tool us for the rest of the season. Oh, and a manager. Saw ibane bowat mentioned again yesterday, but I really think a good solid experienced pro at the back is needed. Shame tobers just hasn’t gotten the luck, no clue if he’s any good.

Really hope Bowie plays and does well for Scotland’s sake, momentum leading up to the World Cup. We desperately need a legit 9. Would also like to see josh Doug in the march internationals too. He’s listed as a left back/left wing back, we desperately need width on the left for Scotland, perhaps ahead of Robertson as a left mid? Assuming we don’t get Barnes.

Prob get grief for this, but a little like cammy devlin?? good age and experience. Sounds like Stanway didn’t impress the other night, plus we have Kjarten as the young guy growing in this position, this guy and afeez are both a good age with careers to get back on track. Both have performed at a good level. seem to have good backgrounds. As I’ve said before, I find these more appealing a more ambitious than the 25-30 yr old signing from league 1 (the English one!)

Interesting read on Geiger, a first team bundesliga player with over 120 appearances, once valued at 13 milllion euros. Frozen out for criticizing club management. Hoffenheim are 3rd in the top tier, no shame to not be playing that level at present. Cappad at all levels in Germany except full internationalist. Low risk high reward. Could be another palaversa, or could shine, time will tell!

Getting no complaints from me, we’ve seen all season we are a very lightweight team. Polvara not tough enough, palaversa not good enough (ego), aouchiche not consistent enough and too expensive (ego), shinnie and Armstrong not able to last 90 mins game after game. Plus not a long term commitment here, a 5 month trial. Throw in not having a manager, no long term financial commitment too. Based on these players and location too, clearly ones lutz either knows or has used his resources to get recommendations. Time will tell if that good! tougher players alongside flair is what we have been crying out for. One more winger and send milanovic out on loan to get regular playing time. He was player of the year in Australia, there’s surely something these. Another central defender, a left sided probably, is a must if knoester’s injury is what it looks. Especially if he’s still in hospital. everything we’ve learned this season tells us last summer was a shit transfer summer. Not the January anyone expected but why wait until summer for an overhaul. No fucking around. At least if we add a manager now he has a more balanced squad to work with.

Really? We have not even see afeez play. And who’s to say this boy and afeez can’t play next to each other. Based on what we’ve seen of late, we are not exactly a squad with capable center mids. Two tougher mids alongside a Clarkson or Cameron for example and two creative wingers is good balance. I suppose add Kjarten but these two new boys are a bit more experienced, that one of these two also alongside Kjarten. Much more appealing than what we saw yesterday, and tougher options for once. Factor in shinnie is of contract, and sivert and Armstrong are 34. Sivert may well leave now or in summer, aouchiche is prob away. Different era and style of football obviously, but like cooper and Simpson in the middle of midfield is not a bad thing. We’ve complained we’re so lightweight in midfield, one stronger center mid does not complete a squad.

What a shit show today. But really it’s close to a shit show two years. From the run jimmy went on to start, the shit run from there, the inconsistent form and the let down of finishing fifth, then the Scottish cup win. This seasons shit start, then a decent run, then shit again, two wins and we think we’re over the hump, now the mess that was today. what next? Surely a managerial announcement has to come very soon. After today the club surely has to say something to steady the ship??

Likewise. You seem a bit overly obsessed with trump, he’s here until Jan 2029, hang in there!

I’d say that one player was a winger, but I’d assume it’s two if knoester is injured.

I’m not here to pick fights with you, or anyone. Commented before I dont get on this thread much now for this exact reason. You get some real touchy subjects, things get heated, some people clearly care more than others. I live here in the US, have for 30 yrs, and am a US citizen now. I am more than grateful for the life this country has allowed me to live, and the opportunities presented to me. I see things quite differently to comments some of you make, so do speak up. I don’t dislike anybody, you have your opinion. This week I’m a racist, even though on red tv today they made the positive comment about us having more Scottish players, I’ve been a crazy right winger before. I’m not the voice of trump, the republicans, or anyone, just giving you an opinion. Same as you all do, we’re all entitled to that. But some of you here get quite upset for differing viewpoints, hence I tend to avoid this thread now. To each their own, we all love the dons and that’s a beautiful thing…..despite the regular shit like today!

You’re just continuing to back up my point. It’s not always about trump. I responded to the conspiracy theory comment and why only Brits had gone down for Epstein so far. My comment was that very powerful people are involved and that we won’t get the truth or accountability. You want to discuss trump. Again.