OrlandoDon

wtf. These line ups man! We’re trying to win games, squad rotation gtf.

I’ll also add, seeing the scores so far today, it adds to the frustration that the old firm aren’t very good this year. Opportunity lost!

We’re all frustrated by the team, mistakes, the manager situation etc. another season getting away from us. The red cards adding up just highlights and adds to the frustration/desperation with us all. Started with so much expectation, a ex PSG player, karlsson, a highly rated Icelandic youngster, Australian player of the year etc., even an aging Armstrong. Don’t have great confidence in the cup game either. sad to write off a season but getting close to that. while Dave’s release today said little, it’s as much an acknowledgement that we’re all frustrated at present.

Yes, poor recruitment for a while. Hopefully the penguin helps in that area. Jimmy had offered to resign twice apparently, maybe there’s more to the timing of him leaving. At the same time, our priority was not on a manager succession plan, but adding the penguin and restructuring that side of things first.

Sorry man, disagree, good update. Good managers are hard to find and we need to get this right, which in itself requires luck and timing. Saying something but nothing in a way, but least it’s an update. All he can say, and better than silence, you. Can’t say more when things aren’t set. dont disagree too, starting with us midseason is bit of a shit show. Starting in the summer, build a squad, a preseason is the ideal for a coach. If it’s horneland for example, can work with us on recruitment prior to formally being hired, but has a voice in squad building. Realistically, we are not in a good spot right now and hard for a manager to start right now and go forwards immediately. Shit situation, but is what it is. .

I stated pregame and agree, sivert should have started over afeez. But sivert is very limited too and we need mobility in there. So while afeez lacks fitness, sivert lacks mobility and he’s caught out a lot. I don’t think that means someone else is picking the team, the team almost pics itself. devlin worries me a little, time we see lobban again?

But what are the options? You have a two new signings in center mid, the only other options are sivert and palaversa, no?? I don’t think that’s the penguin picking the team, that’s simply picking who you have available. Perhaps sivert should have started over afeez yesterday, but there’s not many options at present.

In what sense? You’ve got to look at the players he has at his disposal. I don’t see them playing that differently to the way the played under Thelin. We have little/no width and have played inverted all season, limited on options there. I also posted in my response to panda, he’s been given a huge challenge with so many factors in play, and he’s a limited coach/manager with very little leadership experience.

You have a point about 4 red in 5 games, both in playing with less than 11, and suspensions limiting selection, but also add the injuries to kneuster and Armstrong, and an off form keeper, all guys who have played significant minutes. plus losing aouchiche karlsson polvara and Clarkson, suddenly were quite limited in selection, especially in central midfield. Throw in the fact that afeez and Geiger are from another league/country who aren’t match fit and haven’t played in quite a while, and the disruption of the weather. He’s been given quite an assignment. in the past, leven has come in to a difficult situation, but this is significantly harder due to the above. I don’t think he’s good enough, but he’s certainly been given quite the challenge.

Based on what do you make that statement? I know very little but he sat on the bench as soon as Thelin left, and the other night was in the stands now that we have doc. Was he on the bench again today? Regardless, I don’t have an issue with that. But are you suggesting he’s picking the team, tactics etc?

Totally disagree. Ridiculous today. Why was Morrison starting? He’s not shown anything to suggest he’s good enough and we had a tremendous opportunity to build on Wednesdays great result. Instead we made needless changes. That to me is criminal, go with the players that started well against Motherwell unless we had injuries. Why start olusayna, even though he scored, why pigeon hole him at right mid? Obviously shinnie is injured so we needed one change. Unless Milne was injured there was no point in morrison. Plus that’s two games now afeez has managed just 45 minutes. As was mentioned pregame, go with sivert, positionally and leadership. We’re at the business end of the season and points matter, and are worth money. Very poor line up and while we started well, the red killed us. I just don’t understand leven’s approach today?? im not going to jump on VAR. we know it’s shit, and we got the benefit midweek. It is what it is. And I’m not blaming the ref. Both are out of our control, picking the team, the tactics etc are under our control. the team and club are a bit of a mess right now and I think the reaction to today’s result is justified.

If we are getting a new manager in the summer, I’d prefer we can leven and go with doc for now. There’s a reason leven stays with us, he’s not a head coach and is comfortable with us. He hurt us today.

Saw very little and what I did see I was also watching / listening while driving. Ridiculous line up to begin with, we’re in a win now mode and the line up should represent that. No clue why Morrison and afeez started, afeez looks like he needs a full season and maybe the odd cameo for now off the bench is what we should get from him. Morrison just doesn’t look very good. Unless milne is injured our central back two shouldn’t change. thought devlin looked poor today (no cue why we aren’t seeing lobban.) sivert gets stripped then doesn’t come on. Bad coaching. If you think Geiger is gassed you take him off. Doesn’t look like the type who will ask to come off but he tired. badly needed that win. Now it’s concerning, especially when the coaching staff seem nothing special. We’re a rudderless ship at present.

If we don’t think afeez is up for it yet I’d be inclined to go with sivert and Geiger. Afeez coming on when the old man is tired. Expect a good game from Geiger too, think the cup game will be a good lesson for him and he’ll want to do well today. Desperately want to see lobban at right mid, think he’s such a better option than milanovic.

Good grief min. Don’t agree with you but great cup win. End of. No interest in this debate.

You’ve compared Geiger to aouchiche a couple of times now. I think they are very different. Both have a higher profile back ground, but one is clearly a holding/central mid, whereas Aouchiche was an attacking kid even a wide player. He was only forced deep cos we were piss poor. Aouchiche isn’t a passer, he’s flair with the tricks, Geiger seems much more of a passing play dictator, something we badly need. I’d say Geiger is maybe a little on the Kenny McLean side, but with bite. I think Geiger will learn the demands of Scotti’s football a could’ve really good, but I like his physicality, much needed. a little surprised polvara left his hair for him to wear though. Def needs a tash to complete the look.

I agree with you to an extent. While we played well, they didn’t. I think it’s wrong to say that was all down to us. I’d argue they showed up expecting a cake walk, and I believe that’s luck on our side, they underestimated us, we were lucky they did. I think we were lucky Hatate and Jota were injured, two very good players. they missed chances, hit the post, hit the bar, I think we were a little fortunate. While we were unlucky with our og, we were certainly lucky with our goal. Most often that would be cleared or the keeper collects. We were lucky that arguably the best forward in the league last season didn’t score in the last couple of mins 1v1 with mitov. Good save but you expect him to score that chance most times. it was a great final, not trying to downplay our achievement, we did many things extremely well, especially the penalties, but we didn’t outplay them, didn’t create a ton of chances, struggled to keep possession for most of the game, most neutrals won’t give us the credit we deserved for the cup win. But wha a great day and win!!

So who can confirm shinnie for Saturday? Missing him and Geiger, and possibly Armstrong if he’s not fit, certainly hurts us. And is Milne done with his suspension?

I never said fluke but you may be referring to me, thanks for the shout out! Absolutely there was luck go our way last night. Doesn’t take away from two very good goals. We were unlucky not to get a foul/hand ball prior to motherwell’s first goal. And in the cup final, we definitely had luck on our side too. Doesn’t take away from many good things we did well, including the best penalties I’ve ever seen. luck is a huge part of football. We were due some, last night helped.

I honestly don’t know, I thought Milne had one more game but played tonight, don’t even know how many games Shinnie got, and what is geiger’s punishment? Pretty sure Geiger misses the next competitive game but no clue what else, and I clue for the other two.

Not a bad game to play straight after the cup win. Despite them not being on form, they are only 4 behind us. Falkirk and Hibs have tough games so perhaps a chance to gain some ground. Shinnie was immense tonight, will he be able to start, and will It be him an afeez in the middle assuming Geiger is suspended. Defense did pretty well, Milne and McIntyre will continue in the middle, frame is improving. expect topi from the start with Cameron, hoping to see lobban right mid but expect milanovic again. Despite our struggles, nisbet is playing well, expect another good game from him. 3-1 us, nisbet Cameron and topi.

Refuse to start a new threat for him, but what has happened to Marko lazetic?? I actually liked him, the goal against st mirren and Im are we were thinking we may have a player. Looks like a pub league forward now, lazy and just out to hit people. Hope he has a change of fortune as I’m sure he’s on a decent wage, and getting money back to point him could be a challenge!

Both reds are luck! First one is a red but the defender isn’t challenging, he slips. That’s luck. Don’t think the second is red either, as I’ve already said, too far from goal and two defenders are level and have time to get back. Lucky to get that call. Had they kept 11 I think we’d have struggled.

Hate to say it, but Motherwell are a good side. They’ve take points off Celtic rangers and hearts this season, and we have struggled all season with them. the red cards were huge. First one unlucky but a red, and a lovely nisbet goal. No way is the second red, just too far from goal and while level, there are defenders back. Keeps the season alive for now, hopefully we can build on this result. Harder with the squad we have and no manager and the uncertainty around that.

What a win but not a good performance. Confidence is everything. Motherwell knock it around for fun and we can’t keep the ball. Even a man up they were better, and when they had 9 it was still a struggle. Both of their reds were debatable, the second in particular harsh since it’s almost on the half way line and far from goal. Geiger’s similar to the devlin red against falkirk in the sense that there’s no need for the aggression and he hits the man. Very poor decision making. concerning that afeez didn’t play and Geiger gets red. Against Motherwell at the weekend Geiger was able to knock it around and dictate play/tempo. Without him we were not good in midfield, and not saying he’s good. Palaversa was poor as some have stated. funny that we sold the players that we maybe needed tonight ie Clarkson or polvara. not surprised we went with no width in the second half, our wide guys and wide play is really poor and we need upgrades there in the summer. Topi is a sub. time to gel and maybe get some confidence before the dunfermline game.