OrlandoDon

If it was horneland or another foreigner, Aberdeen is just another random job. And questions would be asked, comments made etc. Robinson knows the club, the size of the club, and truly feels this is a step up, a one he deserves. He rightly says we are a big club with history, and means it. I think we’ve got a very motivated guy, eager to have us punch above our weight too.

I will say this, Robinson seems well happy to join us. a step up to a top Scottish club despite the current situation. As he says, two phases, firstly stability this year and ‘survive,’ then summer and beyond. He’s certainly motivated to do well and knows exactly what he’s in for. I also like that he’s got obvious passion/fire, always felt Thelin was too nice and passive. I feel a coach needs that side to him, obviously has to be used smartly too.

Maybe. Or was it simply the final acceptance that enough is enough and we need someone now? If you are in the club, do you wait for the perfect girl? At some point decisions have to be made or you’re going home alone.

Langfield speaking very highly of our new management team. Curious if he’s looking for a job, but saying Robinson is the best he’s worked with, which obviously includes Mcinnes.

Well, it’s sinking in from yesterday and now announced. As always, I’ll go win a positive spin. Disappointed but glass is half full! name a foreign manager that has done well in Scotland. There’s not many. Motherwell are not the norm. Rohl is on a good run, but they still aren’t a great side. Robinson is not glamorous, but smart. It’s been a shit show two month shut maybe it ended for the best? the guy is proven to be able to coach in this league. This season for st mirren is more the exception than the norm for him, a he still won a cup, and is still in another….well, was! Knows the situation more than most. Knows us and what the fans expect. There are no surprises for him. He also is very well prepared for opponents, even for the next 9 games. his style of play may not be great but I am sure there will be demands of quality football. At the same time, Mcinnes did not always play quality football. Win games and he’ll get support. He’ll also get a bigger budget, and a network of scouting that’s probably bigger than at st mirren. id take killian Philips over Armstrong, palaversa, and possibly Geiger and afeez. Not meaning we sign him, but if he can get Philips to play like he’s doing, maybe he gets more out of our bunch.

A cup double? We have 9 league games, playing them twice too. That’s not much. Interesting if he stays then plays to beat us, and vice versa! Would be slightly odd to see him hired and move in summer, he’ll potentially help get us relegated then take over!

So we go for Pressley when Robinson knocks us back!! Pretty sure yogi is waiting by the phone too!

Good post, Panda! You made my post so much easier and shorter, was going to post something similar. He’s an experienced coach, Goodwin glass and Robson were not. Thelin had minimal knowledge/experience of our league, opponents, and players. Robinson will also have more of an idea than most of the type of player that’s needed for the SPL. We also have lutz (assuming rumors are false) and the return of Mowbray to find players. i suggested here early season that Robinson could be an option and got blasted for it, so no surprise that there’s so much negativity. But he has done well as a coach in the league. And won a cup. And not just with one SPL team. the big however is that he doesn’t seem to match the whole long term approach, philosophy of the club, and the glamor of a new coach. I’m certainly disappointed in this announcement, surely we could have done better. Seems like desperation/panic to me, and id be surprised if he came before summer. When i suggested him before one major negative voiced was the quality of their play. Haven’t seen enough of his teams to comment, although I have certainly been wooed more by the play of falkirk and Motherwell. Don’t remember the chat when Alex miller was hired, or Roy Aiken, and in more recent times when goodwillie came. Certainly my most deflating hire for us to date and I’ve been a fan approx 45 years, even though there are signs he could be a good fit/hire.

Is Russell Martin still available??

This will be the most unpopular hiring in club history. I’d argue this could help get us relegated as I can see fans staying away with this turn of events.

It makes cormack mentioning Sandro Schwartz completely ridiculous now.

Damn I must have slept a long time if it’s April 1.

Stephen Robinson ffs

Too good of a thread to ignore, and I can feel my teeth rotting just thinking about it. I had/have a severe sweet tooth my whole life, blame it on delivering newspapers from about 1985-90, and breakfast quite often sweets from the paper shop, as well as a quick look at penthouse, and irn bru, cream soda, or red cola. Macaroon bars, snowballs (in a roll), loved a wispa and remember when it was introduced, the excitement! Mccowans highland toffee stuck to my teeth for what seemed hours, did like a milky bar, Turkish delight, curly wurly, and a good old fudge bar….about the size of a finger, covered in chocolate, orange rapper, was it jus called fudge? Still treat myself to a tunnocks caramel wafer occasionally, get those here, but my Scottish upbringing is the reason I have/had about 14 fillings, crowns, and couple of teeth removed.

I definitely think lutz has input, that’s his job. We’ve talked about someone holding the manager/head coach accountable, that involves asking questions and giving feedback. He’ll give leven things to think about, and it’s very normal over here for your director of football to be on the bench, giving insight and there for support/discussion. As you say, we’re also juggling things around right now trying to find a winning formula, plus with signing Geiger afeez and olusanya, they’ll play because our other options are so poor …….then afeez proves he’s not ready. Agree with playing sivert, but I’d go 3-5-2 for the remainder of the season. Sivert inbetween Milne and McIntyre. Wing backs devlin/lobban and frame, with Geiger shinnie and Cameron, nisbet and olusanya up top. All of our wingers are crap, why play with wingers. We can get width from the wingbacks, and the diagonal runs from Cameron and olusanya. Up top the bizarre thing is nisbet is playing well and looks fit, plus the pace of olusanya will help and he’s not required to play with too much skill compared to being wide, he can run into through balls and flick one from nisbet. it’s not a sparkling team, but I think the back three again will make us harder to beat. Two up top with support from a mobile Cameron will hopefully give us chances and a goal or two. It’s doesn’t need to be a defensive line up, but it will make us more compact and a more solid block defensively. wouldn’t mind seeing Kjarten given minutes with us limited in central midfield options, maybe when shinnie has run his race, throw him out there.

Didn’t hear leven anywhere take any responsibility for the cup loss. All blame on the players? looking a bit more at Leven, I suppose it’s optics. Cormack has also referenced sacking x managers in such a short period of time, does he really want to fire the interim. I do believe managers will be wary of trigger happy cormack, despite the manager firings being justifiable. you can always tweak things internally, tell leven to take more input from doc for example, but it’s 9 games. We have an 8 point lead on killie, would take a lot for them to catch us. As much as we need to win games, so do they. pre split we have falkirk and hibs at home, st mirren and rangers away. Killie have hearts, livi and Dundee at home, hibs away. Impossible to predict any of this, we are gash but killie aren’t exactly on form, won 2 draw 2 lost 6 in their last 10, including pumping us.

Hey man, not an attack on you at all, just heard it a few times now, and I personally think it’s another over reaction to the shit state we’re in right now.

It doesn’t need to happen in the summer, I just think it will. I’d certainly prefer a legit permanent hire now, I just don’t see it. just because doc failed in other places does mean he can’t coach and lead. McGhee is a good example too, was awful with us but had success elsewhere, hence he was also considered for the Celtic job. It’s not working for leven and every game counts. I just sense doc is the better leader for us right now, right now is key, and it’s a pretty seamless and quick transition.

I don’t buy this. Who in their right mind takes a managers job knowing he doesn’t pick the team. Youve got nothing to gain there, and let’s just say you do well and are up for a future head coaches job, do you tell them you didn’t actually pick the team?? He may be getting input but I have to believe Leven has the final say. ill also add, who knows the squad better, Leven or lutz, and who has coached us before. Lutz picking the team makes no sense. Has he even been a manager/coach before?? loads of people losing it at present given the situation, and plenty of chat going around, some maybe true, others complete nonsense.

How’s Stanway looking, I see he scored?

We all want a new permanent manager, I don’t think that’s the discussion. Pretty sure that happens in the summer, it’s the increasingly worrying period before that. how could doc be worse? We’re playing terribly, don’t create chances, don’t score, can’t defend, gift goals, don’t look overly aggressive or competitive, and lose most games. And team selection is debatable. Law of averages, it would be quite hard to be worse. i think the honorable thing to do is leven walks away, we make that happen. You certainly cannot swap. You have a convo and he steps aside. That leave doc and the new boy coaching/running the first team, do we really need three coaches for 9 games? Your laughable comment has little weight, we’re beyond laughable at the moment anyway, and we have a 9 game season. I don’t care if people laugh if it means winning games, even simply picking up points.

100% agree it’s not purely leven, I’ve also commented a few times about recruitment. There’s other factors that haven’t helped, including injuries, suspension, even the weather! But are you suggesting we stick with the status quo right now? once the club has a manager it will be announced, the sooner the better. But yesterday was a big fuck up by leven. We have ultimately no idea if doc would be better, but can he be any worse? He’s more experienced, and has led a team, that should count for something. While doc is assistant, leven is the decision maker and main man. It makes a difference who is in control, has the final say, the motivation and leadership, the responsibility and respect from the players, so when you say it makes little difference, I think you are wrong. I’ve been both a head and assistant coach before, big difference if you are asst or head. Man management is one of doc’s strengths, plus his experience, you don’t think he can get more out of this group? nine big games, you trust leven with them?

I think the way you are judging Sarah and Julie is totally unfair. But both may do a better job than leven at present. You can’t compare doc and leven, doc has been a successful assistant and head coach, knows more than leven from experience alone. Whether he’s an actually a better coach is debatable, but he’s been trusted in leadership roles which suggests a certain level of knowledge and ability. He’s also been in bottom six battles, more experienced and tested than leven. leven has been in charge for close to two months, he is the constant. We haven’t clearly improved or weakened because of the hiring of the other two. I think it’s fair to place blame on him for where we are at present. He hasn’t improved anything, arguably we’re worse as a result of his appointment. It’s an unfortunate situation, are you suggesting he gets demoted for doc but stays at the club? That would be an odd dynamic if he’s still involved in the first team. Or are you suggesting we stick and hope?

I have gotten a lot of push back when I say this, but the stars aligned for Mcinnes when he came to us. Rangers had died, hearts Dundee utd and hibs had all been relegated while Mcinnes was here, and he inherited the foundation of a solid squad. We added a few good signings, plus he had some good leaders, and it was a very good spell with him. Similarities to hearts this season maybe, the rest have their problems and he inherited a good squad.